Syntax Olevia 532H BAD PQ on 480i/p sources - Page 9

I apologize that this is probably a stupid question but I am not anywhere close to understanding all of this as most of you. I've read through the entire thread and still cannot figure something out. I bought the 232v and noticed motion blurring (I guess that is what it is called) right away. Other than that the picture is really nice. I have dish network. If I upgrade to a dish network hd receiver (which I was considering anyway) will this fix the motion issues even for my SD channels? Sorry for the stupid question but I really need to figure out whether I am going to return this set or not.

Okay, so the theory is (and it seems right because I tried it with my pc turning up noise reduction and edge enhancement which gave me more blurring and after-images as well) that the video processor that's in the tv overdoes the image processing which causes the problems. However, if your box is doing the image processing, this shoudln't matter, so an HD box should solve the problem as most of them do have their own image processing. You should also note that there may be varying qualities on the sets produced, seems like about half the people, myself included didn't notice a significant amount of blurring over any non-HD source.

Well, I don't have one of these units... so this is just speculation. But, it seems that this reported 'problem' is pretty much isolated to SD resolutions where it is actually noticeable. IF that is the case, then if you can stay in HD, you'd be OK.

I think when you use a HD receiver, the content is all at HD rez (signal wise to the TV), even if some of the content is SD in its original format. (again, this is just from trying to learn about this stuff so far... I've not done it myself yet.) In other words... if you are watching a HD show, and then it goes to a SD commercial.. I don't think the TV switches resolution, but the commercial is scaled up to HD rez by the broadcaster.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong on this.

-Steve

When you view a standard def TV program or a DVD (unless it's via an upconverting player) you are sending a 480 signal to the panel. You can set both to send progressive rather than interlaced, but it's still at the same resolution. That's what the original poster has stated by starting this thread...bad PQ via this resolution. The cable box isn't going to send the signal any differently.

I mean what about tuning in a HD broadcast.... say OTA or over a cable box. If the station or channel is HD, I'm assuming it doesn't switch resolutions every time the content type changes. I know a non-upscaling DVD player only does 480i/p, or that a SD cable channel or OTA broadcast will be at SD.

What I'm wondering about is if a HD channel (cable or OTA) actually switches the overall resolution back and fourth each time it switches between material that ie: the cable or broadcaster scales the SD, and then puts it all on an HD rez broadcast.

Thanks,

-Steve

If I understand your question properly, you are overthinking it. If a channel is coming through the cable box in standard def, it will send a 480 signal to the panel. If it's a high def channel, it will transmit in a signal of whatever you have chosen in the box to send to the panel, be it 720p or 1080i. The box has a section that recognizes the signal being sent to it, and gives it a standard def override, or a high def 16:9 signal. Some guys will split the signal, sending two connections to the panel. They will then choose which input they will use for each signal type...HDMI for high def and component for standard def, whatever. This way, they can fine tune the panel for each incoming signal, and try to maximize the picture quality for each type of broadcast. Too mcuh trouble for me, but a better way to "see" the various types of broadcasts.

Hehe... I probably am. I understand what you are saying. What I was asking though, is if you tune into a high def channel with the cable box, or into a high def broadcast with OTA.... won't the signal always be HD? (even if say, a commercial between two HD shows is SD..... it won't switch resolutions when the commercial starts, then switch back after the commercial is over.... right?)

The reason this has any bearing on the question asked by the poster... is that I was thinking if they were going to watch all HD channels and stuff... maybe they wouldn't have to jump into SD rez much.

Sorry to take us so far OT though...

-Steve

Didnt see any mention of the model 237 here but wanted to let people know I see this problem in this tv as well I have a comcasat 3412 hd dvr box and anything not being sent in 720p/1080i looks BAD. There are even times when a poor HD image is being sent or none HD image over a Hd chan ie: ESPN HD will broadcast in non hd with bars so my dvr is outputting 720p but it looks like A$$ I have set the resolution of my dvr box to 1080i and it helps hide it some on poor hd feeds but I would really like to be able to watch none hd broadcasts on this tv.

Anyone tried upgrading from A30-2.A19.A10.A01.A21 to A33-5.A19.A10.A01.A19 that's now available from olevia website?

A33-5.A19.A10.A01.A19 says that it only fixes the following:

1. DTV position adjustment function.
2. DVI to HDMI (PC): Image is not capture correctly under 1280x768 @ 60Hz.

Doesn't mention any fixes to picture quality though...

just dropping by to say I still love my 532! Got an upconverting dvd player the other day and love the quality.

I'm not sure if the broadcast changes resolution, it's just that the recorded material is at a different resolution. Most commercials are done for 4:3 sets, they come through that way, and that's 640x480. So, you get black bars on each side. Remember though, just because you are on a high-def station doesn't mean that it will be broadcasting in high-def. Many of the college games aren't shot in high-def, and you'll be receiving a 4:3 screen. If you tune into something like Discovery HD, you're pretty much guaranteed to have a full programming day of 16:9 high def material, including the commercials.

I have upgraded the firmware, and now from the setup menu my firmware version shows as A33-5.A19.A10.A01.A21

I don't think it fixed anything, and in my opinion it even looks a little bit worse than before, i get a greenish shade on people's faces now, it is not strong and not very obvious but it wasn't like that before the firmware upgrade.
Oh well...

new firmware is loaded, and im fairly sure they've improved 480i/p quality marginally.

here's a macro shot of forza motorsport on my xbox at 480p, taken at 1/30th a second shutter in a 3mph hard left turn (so that the scenery was scrolling to the right really fast)
the only place i see anything close to ghosting is in the red triangle


480i from directv still looks like ass, but thats directv's fault, not the tv's.

I have a 532H with the newest firmware A33-5.A19.A10.A01.A19. Out of the box the 480i/p PQ is pretty bad, however I did not notice any major ghosting. I've made the following changes to my settings and I've noticed an improvement in picture quality across the board (1080i/720P/480P/480i).

Color Temp = Native (Default = 6500k)
Sharpness = 0 (Default = 75)
Contrast = 50 (Default = 90)
Lighting = Bright room (any other setting creates a buzz)
Mode = Home

further testing with halo 2, on dark levels, MAJOR ghosting, as per normal with the problem.

So essentially those of us who purchased this unit are screwed? There is no way to fix the PQ problem, and Olevia will not fix it either? There HAS to be a way that we or they can fix something like THIS.

well, now that firmware is actually out, maybe some hacker types can try to decode it for filtration settings?

Well... it depends on what the actual problem is... there is usually a way to fix it.... but hard to say IF that will be done.

If the problem is pure hardware (the ATI chip)... then Olevia would have to redesign and swap hardware in your monitor... or give you a different model to fix it.... not sure how likely that is to happen.

If the problem is firmware from ATI... then Olevia would need to wait on / get that from ATI, assuming it is in the works.

If the problem is with Olevia firmware.... then certainly, they should fix it.

I haven't actually seen one, but if the problem is as obvious as everyone is saying... Olevia should certainly fix it in some way. Even if that is to give the customer an exchange to a different model. I don't know if Olevia is a good company in this regard though.

-Steve

update:
I did not notice any major ghosting that OP was mentioning from either my Series 2 TiVo or from the built-in analog tuner. I bought my 532H on BF2006 from Microcenter.

However, I used my Panasonic GS32 video camera and filmed my son's Christmas show. The wood-colored alter behind the kids had 3 panels (portrait orientation). They were ghosting like crazy in the video feed from my video camera (composite; removed TiVo composite and plugged in video camera). It looked like the panels were floating away from the alter.

Another problem is that with my TiVo, the audio is out of sync. Not sure how to resolve this, but I'll look.

All in all, I'm still ecstatic about the deal I got and the HD picture quality. I'm okay with the TiVo feed because ghosting is not noticeable. When the stations all go to digital broadcasting, I do not think this will be an issue anymore for TV. Sounds as though game consoles may still pose a problem.

Hi, i bought the Olevia 532 a couple of days ago and i loved almost everything about it, but i have a problem...

I live in México and i had a cable service that doesnt have 5 HD channels that i can see via my air antenna. Anyway, everytime i want to see these HD channels i have to run a channel scan that takes so damn long!
Then, if i want to see my cable chanels i must run channel search again (and change the coaxial cable of course).

Where is the Air/Cable switch!!! this is driving me crazy, please help! (i've read the instructions and updated the firmware today by the way)

Anybody have this tv and a ps3? I am hooked up via hdmi and everytime I turn the ps3 on the screen flickers and flashes. Is this because hdmi is collaborating or something?? I got a hdmi cable from monoprice.

I have regular cable right now and it looks alright. It catches some hi def channels but they don't come in fully clearly. What can I do to get a clearer reception??

Overall this tv isn't that bad...good for the $380 I spent on it.

I got one 532H from microcenter and i am using that as a monitor to my pc.

I have a pc with radeon 7000 with dvi + vga+ ps2 connections and configured the 1:1 @ 1360/768 on powerstrip . Did connected both div and vga connections and i found that i have some ghosting in dvi/hdmi, it is working fine with vga, what could be the reason?

I downloaded the A33-5.A19.A10.A01.A19 and tried to upgrade but i failed.

- formated a 256 mg usb drive on fat32
- copied all the 5 files in to the usb drive
- placed the usb drive on tvs (usb slot) and Switched on the tv
but it is not upgrading..?

do i need to change any kind of settings in the files, or is there any other way to update the firmware

Has anyone been able to get a vga connection without interference lines going up and down? I've tried two different connections from my pc and laptop with different wires but both have the interference. Also interested if anyone got a component connection from the pc working without an interference pattern?

Not in the least. I've had an xbox360 running on component and now VGA (thank you play-asia) and its perfect. No problems on either source. The PS2 over composite was pretty ugly and on component it isn't that much better. If anyone can suggest some settings to improve the PQ I'd love to hear it. Then again, the PS2 wasn't designed with HDTV in mind, so I'm not going to blame the TV for bad PS2 performance. That's like being mad at your Geo Metro because it can't keep up with an F1 car.
Haven't had a chance to tinker with the new playstation yet, but my bet is that it will look at least as good as the 360.

hello guys. Can you recommend me a good wall mount for this TV?

seems to be a new firmware out.

makes 480i tolerable, but still very ghosty/afterimage showing.

Edit: surprising find, these tvs run linux.
or at least use linux code to boot.

i cant tell from the garbage in the img. but there are a lot of linux command references.

i say we petition olevia to release source code to comply with the GPL, and end up with the wrt54g of tv's.

No new firmware has been released to my knowledge....I just checked...