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I have a benq PE7700, yamaha rxv 2600 passing through without up converting and HD-A1. When i watch SD and HD through Dire** Tv the screen if full. When i watch movies through the HD-A1 the screen is not fulll. Is there a way to fill the whole movie screen like when im watching the Satelite? Thanks. The screen is a custom screen that was made around the HD programing from Dire** tv HD broadcast. Im hoping that the problem is not because i made the screen around the 1080 I broadcast from Dire** TV .
post #2 of 12
Non Anamorphic DVD?
post #3 of 12
I suspect you are talking about the difference in aspect ratios. Broadcast television HD is in 1.78:1 ratio and fills a screen designed to display HD. Orignal aspect ratio on a movie can come in a number of different ratios. A 2.35:1 aspect ratio movie will have bars on top and bottom on a screen set up for 1.78:1 aspect ratio. It is my understanding most of the HD-DVD movies released so far are in the 2.35:1 ratio, although there are a few in 1.85:1 which will normally pretty much fill a 1.78:1 screen. Check the SD DVDs you are seeing fill the screen and I am guessing you will see they are in the 1.85:1 ratio. Around here some where one of the members did a great job on explaining this. I will see if I can track it down.
post #4 of 12
Here is a 3 page thread on that topic:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=682004

Also, William did a good job of explaing aspect ratios in this thread (hope he doesn't mind me cutting and pasting this):
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ht=full+screen
Quote:
Any 1.85 or 1.78 OAR title will fill up (or come close to with no overscan) a 1.78 (16x9) screen. Here is a little info I posted in another thread which you may find handy.

Full Screen and Wide Screen are awful terms. I will do a quick list that is not all inclusive.

1.33 - 3x4 - Standard - Academy - open matt - Full Screen
1.66 - Popular in European theater and some US films like the Truman Show.
1.78 - 16x9 - HDTV - Wide Screen
1.85 - Flat - matted (a little under 50% of films are this aspect ratio)
2.35 - Scope - Panavision - Super 35 (a little over 50% of films are this aspect ratio)

There are others that are not used much like 2.0, 2.2, and 2.76. Also some will say 2.40 and 1.37 deferant but they are covered. Some computer aspect ratios are deferent like 1.60.

1.78 (16x9) was chosen as a compromise between 1.33 (3x4) standard and 2.35 (widest commen OAR).
Hopefully it answers your questions.
post #5 of 12
Yea its yours HD-DVD discs.

Look on the back-bottom of them next to the resolution.

Im not liking it either.
post #6 of 12
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Originally Posted by djc347
I have a benq PE7700, yamaha rxv 2600 passing through without up converting and HD-A1. When i watch SD and HD through Dire** Tv the screen if full. When i watch movies through the HD-A1 the screen is not fulll. Is there a way to fill the whole movie screen like when im watching the Satelite? Thanks. The screen is a custom screen that was made around the HD programing from Dire** tv HD broadcast. Im hoping that the problem is not because i made the screen around the 1080 I broadcast from Dire** TV .
This drives me crazy too... I am not a lover of black bars! I say give us a choice as to weather or not we want to trim the sides to make it fit top to bottom!

Watching sd home recorded 4:3 is even worse... it comes out as 4:3 with no way to make it bigger. All my zoom control funtion on the tv is disabled in hdmi
post #7 of 12
Most of the time 2.35:1 movie on TV are zoomed to fit the screen. sometime they are Unmatted but most older movies are Zoomed in and you actually loose resolution because they Zoomed the original 1920x540 ..
post #8 of 12
What I don't understand is how the SD material always filled the screen. Did you really never buy a 2.35:1 title on DVD? Even if you always would buy fullscreen titles, those would still have bars on the sides unless you stretched them.
post #9 of 12
Always watch in original aspect ratio. It is wrong any other way. Only non anamorphpic widescreen or not enhanced for widescreen SD DVD is handled poorly by the A1. All other discs are as they should be.

This should not even be a point of discussion on forum such as this. Learn to love OAR as anything else is trashing your experience no matter what you may currently think about it.
post #10 of 12
I haven't tryed SDDVD in the A1 yet ill have to see what it does.
Can't you zoom in by hitting the A-D on the A1 or is that just some movies.


Hears a thought if the dvd is non-anamorfic your going to get bars no matter what as that part of the frame. So other then zooming and atempting to not cut out anything.
post #11 of 12
If your screen is 4:3 then you will always get bars at the top and bottom from your player, no matter what the content of the disc is: HD DVD is a 16:9 format. If your TV allows some form of zoom then you may be able to use that, at least on 4:3 content.

It's a shame the USA is so backward in this regard: Europeans have been enjoying widescreen TVs and OTA content in the matching form for many years now. My Dad got a widescreen TV in the UK in the late 90s, which was a source of personal embarassment for me...
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Originally Posted by Andy Pennell
If your screen is 4:3 then you will always get bars at the top and bottom from your player, no matter what the content of the disc is: HD DVD is a 16:9 format. If your TV allows some form of zoom then you may be able to use that, at least on 4:3 content.
His screen is 16:9.
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