out of curiosity, did he try to talk you out of it at all? probably not since he had it in stock. i've personally never owned either brand before. i'm hoping i made the right choice. he commented to me that if i wasn't happy with the 84, i wouldn't be happy with anything and went on to say he actually owned the 84 and was very pleased with it. i'm sure there both pretty good receivers. i just couldn't justify spending the extra dough on the yamaha and i'd probably never use some of the niftier features like the network jack since i use htpc via optical already anyway. he did gracefuly give his opinion regarding pioneer versus yamaha though. again, it's possible invetory played a part in his recommendation, who knows. we'll see i suppose. at this point replacing my marantz that keeps turning itself off is a priority so i'm sure the 84 will sound great. be sure and let me know what you think of the 2700 via this thread or even pm me if you would. i'd appreciate it.