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post #2731 of 5350
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Originally Posted by junior LA View Post

Looking at similar occurrences in this thread, where things are ok then start to go haywire after an hour or two, those all seemed to be related to heat.

I did some further testing yesterday. I bought a Oppo 970HD yesterday to rule out it was my DVD player, plus I wanted its extra features.

I let the receiver run most of the day with cable and left the PS3 on. After several hours I started switching between DVD, DTV and CBL/SAT, sure enough the picture started to drop. Something that was new though was that with the Oppo it kept trying to show the picture and it would flash every 30 seconds or so and show a picture then go back out.

Next, I put a fan right next to the receiver and blowing on it. Once I did this, I never lost picture. Even before the fan, there is plenty of air flow around the reciever and nothing on top, but it still felt quite warm.

I'm leaving it on again today with the fan and I'll see if I can get it to go. If not, this can only lead me to an over heating issue. I suppose I could order a cooling system to resolve the issue for good (assuming it doesn't go out today). Still not good that the reciever can't cool itself enough alone, but at least I might be able to get it to work.

I will report back once this "test case" is complete.
post #2732 of 5350
LOL that most likely makes sense. I just have to increase the bass manually... oh well

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by cbibbs View Post

Is there a chance you are just used to excessive bass? Many people turn the bass up too far when tuning by ear because they except to "feel" something on every track.
post #2733 of 5350
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Originally Posted by Steve N View Post

I'm having an issue with the HDMI Up-Scaling feature in the GUI. I have "Conversion" and "Component I/P" set to on but the "HDMI Up-Scaling" options are grayed out. It appears to be set to "Through" but it won't allow me to change it. Also, the "HDMI Aspect" is grayed out. Does anyone else have this problem and know why it's like this?

All of my sources are outputting at 1080i (SA8300 HD DVR via HDMI, Xbox360 via Component, and Sony DVD via HDMI). When I check the Signal Info, it shows all signals 1080i -> 1080i. Just to be sure it was in fact passing through, I changed the output resolution on the Xbox to 720p and checked the signal info again. Sure enough it was 720p -> 720p pass through. What is going on here? Why can't I set it to upscale all signals to 1080i through HDMI output?

Thanks

Amazing, I have the exact problem and I was just about to run a search to see if I could find the answer. I have everything set to "on" and I even did a video reset last night. Would love to know if there is a simple answer
post #2734 of 5350
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Originally Posted by yuimyt View Post

Here you go. This link will help you more.


http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/r...-configuration


Thanks for the article link yuimyt. I discovered (as the article says) just how inaccurate this YPAO can be. Sounded downright horrible.

The one thing it (seems) to have done properly is the base/sub. That sounded spot on!

I'm now attempting to duplicate the YPAO settings it automatically set for the sub
on my own. So far, unsuccessfully.
post #2735 of 5350
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Originally Posted by bcollier19@gmail View Post

Amazing, I have the exact problem and I was just about to run a search to see if I could find the answer. I have everything set to "on" and I even did a video reset last night. Would love to know if there is a simple answer

If you find anything out please let me know. This isn't a huge issue since all of my sources can output 1080i but it's still irritating that a feature isn't working properly.

When I got home today it was too late to call Yamaha support but I did send them an email. Maybe I'll hear something back tomorrow. I'm going to try to call tomorrow anyway if I get a chance.
post #2736 of 5350
I have been lurking about for a few weeks now searching and searching and reading and trying to learn and it seems the more I read the more questions it brings up. I don't want shoot myself in the foot and i'm not afraid of asking a dumb question when technology has obviously passed me up. Ok i apologize in advance because my questions will sort of involve some other equipment but ultimately they all revolve around the meat of the issue which is this receiver.

Ok basically I'm getting ready to pull the trigger and update all my electronics soon with a new receiver, new tv, new dvd player, ps3 and all that. Now the one thing I know for sure is that the tv I will be getting is a 46 inch Sony XBR2 1080p lcd tv. The dvd player I'm leaning towards is an oppo 981. Now the receiver I don't know what to do. Basically I'm looking at the 2700 OR the HTR-6090. Now I can get a 6090 for basically half the price as the 2700 and with the exception of 1 hdmi input and 20 watts per channel I see basically no difference. Granted the 6090 only has de-interlacing on the video side with no upscaling but with my high end tv why would I need that? Could someone explain if I would be making a mistake here.

Also the basic thing that really confuses me is the actual setup of all my stuff. Now I'm guessing here but for the most part I would think I want to go as direct as possible. For instance my HD set top box would go hdmi directly to my tv, with an optical sound to my receiver. The oppo would be set up the same. Then the ps3 the same. This is where I'm confused, my tv and receiver will have many more hdmi inputs then outputs. One of the things I liked about hdmi was the single cable factor but with only 1 output on the receiver you pretty much have to run optical sound in for most everything. Since we are on the topic of the hdmi out on the receiver what would be the point of running an hdmi from say my oppo or ps3 to the receiver and then another hdmi from the receiver to the tv when i could just hdmi straight to the tv and then just optical sound to the receiver.

I really could ramble on and ask a lot of questions but I don't want this to turn into a novel. Basically I want to able to watch tv in stereo, play games in stereo, and watch movies in stereo. I want to know the best and easiest way to accomplish that and since those are my only needs, wouldn't the 6090 suit me just fine? or is there a real reason, now or in the future I would want to get the 2700. This set up will be with me for a very long time. I'm not looking to upgrade in a year or two, this is something I will probably have for 10 years so I want to do it right the first time, so if there is a real reason for the 2700 I will gladly pay the extra money, I'm not poor, but I don't want to toss away money for no reason when I can pick up a 6090 for half the price. I don't care about hooking up to my pc, or an ipod, or any of that stuff. I'm very basic. I want tv, movies, and games in stereo.

One last question, I currently have 4 speakers. If I pick up 3 more and get this all set up will I always be able to have sound through all 7 speakers? I have done reading on the discrete stuff and all that but really confused myself. Anyone who can answer that with some simplicity I would appreciate it. Once again sorry for the long confusing rambling post, I just don't want to make a mistake.
post #2737 of 5350
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Originally Posted by uni_panther View Post

Also the basic thing that really confuses me is the actual setup of all my stuff. Now I'm guessing here but for the most part I would think I want to go as direct as possible. For instance my HD set top box would go hdmi directly to my tv, with an optical sound to my receiver. The oppo would be set up the same. Then the ps3 the same. This is where I'm confused, my tv and receiver will have many more hdmi inputs then outputs. One of the things I liked about hdmi was the single cable factor but with only 1 output on the receiver you pretty much have to run optical sound in for most everything. Since we are on the topic of the hdmi out on the receiver what would be the point of running an hdmi from say my oppo or ps3 to the receiver and then another hdmi from the receiver to the tv when i could just hdmi straight to the tv and then just optical sound to the receiver.

It would be simpler to run one HDMI cable from the output of your receiver to the input on your TV and then run the three HDMI cables from your set top box, PS3, and Oppo into the receiver. 4 HDMI cables, no optical.
post #2738 of 5350
Ok thank you for that. I was under the the impression that for each input I ran I would need an output. That solves a lot of my set up issues very much. However I still don't think shelling out twice as much money for a 2700 as a 6090 is worth 1 hdmi input. After all I could run one of my items as optical audio into the receiver. I still would like someones opinion on the 2700 versus the 6090 for me?
post #2739 of 5350
Hello, the 2700 is on my short list of Receivers.. the one thing holding me back on this receiver is that I read somewhere of issues when using a HDMI to DVI cable. My PJ only accepts DVI in and I would like to feed it all material in 720p.
1) Does anyone use a HDMI to DVI cable sucessfully and upconvert to 720p/1080i?
2) How well does the Scaler in the 2700 work. would I be better just to pass all material through at 480p?

Thanks
Laz
post #2740 of 5350
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Originally Posted by uni_panther View Post

Also the basic thing that really confuses me is the actual setup of all my stuff. Now I'm guessing here but for the most part I would think I want to go as direct as possible. For instance my HD set top box would go hdmi directly to my tv, with an optical sound to my receiver. The oppo would be set up the same. Then the ps3 the same. This is where I'm confused, my tv and receiver will have many more hdmi inputs then outputs. One of the things I liked about hdmi was the single cable factor but with only 1 output on the receiver you pretty much have to run optical sound in for most everything. Since we are on the topic of the hdmi out on the receiver what would be the point of running an hdmi from say my oppo or ps3 to the receiver and then another hdmi from the receiver to the tv when i could just hdmi straight to the tv and then just optical sound to the receiver.

The issue I would have with connecting everything to the A/V receiver and having one HDMI output to the Tv is that you wont be able to use customized video settings for each input. Using seperate inputs will allow you to set the picture settings to the appropriate level for each component. Than when you switch inputs on the TV it will select the correct settings. Otherwise the TV will always use the same input for everything comeing from the A/V receiver.
post #2741 of 5350
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Originally Posted by Steve N View Post

I'm having an issue with the HDMI Up-Scaling feature in the GUI. I have "Conversion" and "Component I/P" set to on but the "HDMI Up-Scaling" options are grayed out. It appears to be set to "Through" but it won't allow me to change it. Also, the "HDMI Aspect" is grayed out. Does anyone else have this problem and know why it's like this?

All of my sources are outputting at 1080i (SA8300 HD DVR via HDMI, Xbox360 via Component, and Sony DVD via HDMI). When I check the Signal Info, it shows all signals 1080i -> 1080i. Just to be sure it was in fact passing through, I changed the output resolution on the Xbox to 720p and checked the signal info again. Sure enough it was 720p -> 720p pass through. What is going on here? Why can't I set it to upscale all signals to 1080i through HDMI output?

Thanks


Ok I just got off the phone with Yamaha Tech Support and he said the Up-Scaling feature is only for 480i signals. Any source outputting above a 480i signal will just be a pass through with no upconverting.
post #2742 of 5350
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Originally Posted by earsintraining View Post

I'm leaving it on again today with the fan and I'll see if I can get it to go. If not, this can only lead me to an over heating issue. I suppose I could order a cooling system to resolve the issue for good (assuming it doesn't go out today). Still not good that the reciever can't cool itself enough alone, but at least I might be able to get it to work.

I will report back once this "test case" is complete.

I am making my final diagnosis as "over heating". I left a DVD playing today and about 2 hours in I lost picture and it would flash green etc. I immediatley put the fan on it, let it cool for a minute started it again and its now 5 hours later without ever losing picture.
post #2743 of 5350
I am having a problem similar to the one below. I am in the initial stages of setting up my 2700 and wanted to get the upscaling benefit with my Laser Player which connects via S Video. I have no picture at all and switched to composite with the same result. Currently I have my Oppo 981 HD and my Comcast HD box connected via HDMI and I output to my TV with a HDMI to DVI cable. Those 2 sources work great. Any ideas would be appreciated.

"I'm having an issue with the HDMI Up-Scaling feature in the GUI. I have "Conversion" and "Component I/P" set to on but the "HDMI Up-Scaling" options are grayed out. It appears to be set to "Through" but it won't allow me to change it. Also, the "HDMI Aspect" is grayed out."
post #2744 of 5350
can anyone confirm that theier 2700 is passing 1080p/24 video?
post #2745 of 5350
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Originally Posted by darryl b View Post

can anyone confirm that theier 2700 is passing 1080p/24 video?

I've wondered the same thing but unfortunately my only 1080p source is my Xbox360 w/ HD-DVD drive and that has to be hooked up via component cables which can only accept a 1080i signal.
post #2746 of 5350
Teague:

You may want to look at the Terk Leapfrog IR extender via IR -to-wireless-to-IR.

I have found this unit to really works for me, when other IR to IR did not. Correctly controls Pana 50PUK, Yamaha DSP A1, Tivo HR10-250 etc.

Shop around - easily found for less than $30.
post #2747 of 5350
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Originally Posted by darryl b View Post

can anyone confirm that theier 2700 is passing 1080p/24 video?

Can anyone confirm this?
post #2748 of 5350
Hi, I'm a new to this and am building a dedicated home theater. My installer is recommending the RX-V1700 for my budget. I really don't want to go higher than that in price but am I giving up a lot by not spending $400 more on the 2700? Will I be happy with the 1700? Thank you so much for any advice.
post #2749 of 5350
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Originally Posted by rbrooks418 View Post

Hi, I'm a new to this and am building a dedicated home theater. My installer is recommending the RX-V1700 for my budget. I really don't want to go higher than that in price but am I giving up a lot by not spending $400 more on the 2700? Will I be happy with the 1700? Thank you so much for any advice.

I have a 2700 in a dedicated HT and think it's great. I think the main things you are giving up are the extra HDMI input and the upscaling. If these are important to you then you should probably consider the 2700.
post #2750 of 5350
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Originally Posted by satfam View Post

I have a 2700 in a dedicated HT and think it's great. I think the main things you are giving up are the extra HDMI input and the upscaling. If these are important to you then you should probably consider the 2700.

Also USB and network connectivity.. It seems only the 2700 and N600 has these features.
post #2751 of 5350
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Originally Posted by darryl b View Post

can anyone confirm that theier 2700 is passing 1080p/24 video?


Just to clarify, it is with other players (not the PS3) which have a Forced 1080p24 mode.

post #2752 of 5350
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Originally Posted by Woof Woof View Post

Just to clarify, it is with other players (not the PS3) which have a Forced 1080p24 mode.


I understand that. But when 1080p24 is selected and sent from the PS3, is the receiver able to pass it? 2700 or 1700?
post #2753 of 5350
not on AUTO mode, that's why we'd like to have a "force 24hz signal" on the PS3 O/S.
post #2754 of 5350
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Originally Posted by danam View Post

not on AUTO mode, that's why we'd like to have a "force 24hz signal" on the PS3 O/S.

they should pass whatever comes out of the source. boy, this is a strange way for yamaha to design their receiver. i have a 2700 and i must say this is more than a bit disappointing.
post #2755 of 5350
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Originally Posted by darryl b View Post

they should pass whatever comes out of the source. boy, this is a strange way for yamaha to design their receiver. i have a 2700 and i must say this is more than a bit disappointing.

I suspect it isn't the 2700's fault. The 2700 isn't failing to passthrough the 24fps signal.

The PS3's 24fps output is an "auto" mode. When passed through the 2700, it somehow fails to work.

Many standalone BR players have a Source Direct aka Forced 24fps mode and this would work with most HDMI v1.1-1.2 class amplifiers.

I have been trying to get confirmation from 2700 owners who have used the amp as a switch with other standalone BR players to see if it works, but I do not believe this to be an issue.
post #2756 of 5350
I guess my question is what 1080p spec does work on the 2700 or 1700? Is there only 1080p60 and 1080p24? Do either of these work?
post #2757 of 5350
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Originally Posted by stepmback View Post

I guess my question is what 1080p spec does work on the 2700 or 1700? Is there only 1080p60 and 1080p24? Do either of these work?

AFAIK, HDMI is passed through, so it really doesn't matter what format it is in..

It seems to be the Auto detect 24fps that is tripping up.
post #2758 of 5350
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Originally Posted by laz_x View Post

Also USB and network connectivity.. It seems only the 2700 and N600 has these features.

2700 has video out on zone 2. Both the 1700 and 2700 are excellent machines and you should be happy with either.
post #2759 of 5350
Laz -

I use an HDMI-DVI connection and have no problem with the upconversion.
post #2760 of 5350
I have a problem passing 1080p video from my Oppo 981HD through my Yamaha 2700. I have the Oppo connected to the 2700 by HDMI and then out to the TV by HDMI.

If I select any video output from the Oppo other than 1080p (e.g. 480i/p, 720, 1080i), everything is fine. But when I select 1080p output from the Oppo, I get a bit of judder in the picture and many thin horizontal white lines dancing around on the picture.

Sometimes, the problem goes away. But then it always comes back, seemingly at random.

The TV is fine, because the problem goes away when I connect the Oppo directly to the TV (i.e. not through the 2700). I think the HDMI cable from the Oppo is fine, because the same problem happens with two different cables.

I can watch DVDs on 1080i, and it's fine, but I bought the Oppo and the 2700 so I could pass through 1080p from the Oppo.

Any thoughts? Much appreciated.
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