Originally Posted by SirJohnFalstaff
I agree totally. The only receiver I've ever owned is my Yamaha RX-V595a which has served me well. It's been such a positive experience, I'm having trouble looking to another line. The Pioneer 84TSXi looks quite nice, though. I hope someone will do a detailed comparison sometime soon.
I'm glad you asked....nothing like going to "test drive" a couple of units to settle the issue Chasw98
and I went to Tweeter and to a hometheater store to try out a few pre/pros and the pio84, rx2600, and denon 4306, as well as a few high-end Pre/pros.
We tried the Pio 84TSXi vs the Yammy RX-V2600 vs a Krell SCP71 Pre/pro + Krell amp. The tweeter store has the switcher, so we could change sources quickly (although there was about a 2 sec delay before the sound came in between switches.
We first tried just the Pio84 vs 2600, mano a mano.....both sound good but VERY different. The 84 sounded harsher particularly in the highs, but you could tell slightly more details. The 2600 sounded more natural, and less intrusive to the ears.
We then put the Krell on, and it trumped both of them.....obviously, this was expected. But then we switched between the Krell and Pio84, and then krell and Yammy 2600. The 2600 sounded much much closer to the sound of the Krell than did the Pio84. The highs were more natural and the bass more visceral on the yamaha....I would say it was very close to the Krell. This by no means concludes that the Pio 84 is no good, as it was very good in its own right. Also, keep in mind that this is NOT a true direct assesment, as we were not running the Pio and Yammy in pre/pro mode, but straight, so the amplifier sections in each was being used, which affects the sound.
We then went to check out the Anthem D2, and teh Lexicon MC-12.....outsanding machines, but big money....we are talking $6-12K just for the pre/pro
Needless to say, I thinK my decision is set on the reciever side...it's either the Yamaha 2700 when it comes out, or get a cheaper pre/pro like the Outlaw 970 or 990.
ps- I switched the Denon 4306...didn't waste much time on it afterwards, since it sounded worst than the pio or yamaha...