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post #3361 of 5236
10/26/07 at 6:39am
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Originally Posted by nolive View Post

Right, I'm gonna show my ignorance in AV stuff including connections

I have very much recently (2days ago actually) completed my set-up with a brand new Plasma TV.

I don't have enough space to install a proper 5.1 or 7.1 system in my appartment and was thinking about using the speakers of my TV in addition to my floor standing to add some oomph when I watch movies in particular

I'm planning to connect via HDMI PS3>Amp>TV

How can I link TV and amp or TV and PS3 to create this effect of central speaker?

Analog or Digital (the TV has RCA and optical out) via the amp?

Optical via the PS3(not sure it is possible to output sound via HDMI AND optical at the same time)

Even if this is achievable, would that not create some sort of sound delay between what comes off the Floorstandings and the TV speakers?

Again, sorry if that sounds thick but I need some help

This may be a simple solution ONLY if your TV speakers are the detachable type connected to the TV chassis via speaker wire (as in the Pioneer Elite series). Simply run the the wires to the L & R front channels of the HTR, add a center channel and use your floor standers for the surrounds.
As for the delay, that may be adjustable in the HTR menu controls. Many better HTR allow mods to the timing of various EQ modes.
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post #3362 of 5236
10/26/07 at 7:57am
thanks for your quick feedback

actually my set-up looking like that


, I have really no sensible space for an additional speaker

I will try the HDMI route as the TV speakers are not detachable and play with the Sound options

but the TV and its settings in japanese will not help here

anyway, if I can achieve something decent, I will post the outcome here

thanks again
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post #3363 of 5236
10/26/07 at 8:21am
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Originally Posted by nolive View Post

thanks for your quick feedback

actually my set-up looking like that


, I have really no sensible space for an additional speaker

I will try the HDMI route as the TV speakers are not detachable and play with the Sound options

but the TV and its settings in japanese will not help here

anyway, if I can achieve something decent, I will post the outcome here

thanks again


It also depends on what exactly you are trying to achieve. If you want surround (or like-surround) then you have several big draw backs:
- no center speaker
- surround sounds meant for "rear" are coming from the front
- simulated surround can sound quite bad

If you are simply looking to get equal sound out of all four speakers(i.e. 4 ch stereo), that should be rather simple to accomplish depending on what type of audio you are sending to your speakers.

The 2700 allows for setting delays on speakers. I know you can set delays on rear surrounds, I don't know about the other speakers (FL, FR, C).

Also, depending on your tv's menu options and how you hook up your sources to your tv and AVR, you may only get sound from your tv speakers ONLY if your avr is powered on. For many sources, like SD cable/sat, it's kinda silly to run a full AVR-amp to watch the evening news.

BTW: are you running an RX-V2700?
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post #3364 of 5236
10/26/07 at 8:51am
hi toby

just to clarify my query.

I'm living in Japan and bought overhere the equivalent of the RX V2700 you have in the US. here it's called DSP AX2700

What I want to achieve, while playing movies (DVD or BR as I have a PS3 as a source) is to get more "impact", to the overall sound, from actors/actress voices hence my idea to have a "central speaker" being the TV ones as this TV model has the speakers at the bottom of the screen as you can see on the pic.

I'm not bothered with SD TV as I can't (yet) read japanese

So the option of transporting the sound from my source (PS3) to my TV via HDMI (amp pass through) sounds the most sensible as a first attempt.

I will see if I can set-up the latter via the amp only menu since, as I said, the TV menu is in japanese and apparently not possible to modify the language as opposed to what I was told by the retailer


Again, I'm happy with the amp DSP features and what comes out these boootiful JBL speakers but I will try to make the most of this superb TV as well

thanks again for your help in any case

PS: you as an expert of this amp, you wouldn't know how to set-up Itunes in the Media center (I'm bored with WMP and the crappy folder/track layout)
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post #3365 of 5236
10/26/07 at 9:35am
OK my new 2700 is here. I'm not getting any sound out of left surround (BACK). It failed YPAO, no test tone. Then I thought of switching to just surround L and R since I have only one set of surrounds. It then passed YPAO. After setup I tried switching the left surround BACK to left surround and there's no sound out of the speaker.

I'm assuming this goes back for a problem with that channel or the binding posts. Any ideas?

Also when I try the USB port with a USB hard drive attached it says 'Disconnected'. Could it be my drive organization? I do have a folder of WMA's on it but there's other stuff. I was under the impresssion I could navigate to the music folder using the display menu.

BTW -- Does a speaker have to be setup with YPAO first? I mean if you don't connect all speakers that the unit is capable of driving for YPAO but then later connect another pair. Does that pair work?

Help! Thanks.
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post #3366 of 5236
10/26/07 at 10:35am
Hmm..

Dumb question here,

The rxv2700 does not do dolby true hd or DD+ or dts hdma ?

you can only get these if your player decodes for you and you hook them up via 5.1 analog output from player to mult in to reciever?

This would mean that you wouldn't get these audio formats from your ps3?

Am I correct?
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post #3367 of 5236
10/26/07 at 10:38am
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Originally Posted by nolive View Post

hi toby

just to clarify my query.

I'm living in Japan and bought overhere the equivalent of the RX V2700 you have in the US. here it's called DSP AX2700

What I want to achieve, while playing movies (DVD or BR as I have a PS3 as a source) is to get more "impact", to the overall sound, from actors/actress voices hence my idea to have a "central speaker" being the TV ones as this TV model has the speakers at the bottom of the screen as you can see on the pic.

I'm not bothered with SD TV as I can't (yet) read japanese

So the option of transporting the sound from my source (PS3) to my TV via HDMI (amp pass through) sounds the most sensible as a first attempt.

I will see if I can set-up the latter via the amp only menu since, as I said, the TV menu is in japanese and apparently not possible to modify the language as opposed to what I was told by the retailer


Again, I'm happy with the amp DSP features and what comes out these boootiful JBL speakers but I will try to make the most of this superb TV as well

thanks again for your help in any case

PS: you as an expert of this amp, you wouldn't know how to set-up Itunes in the Media center (I'm bored with WMP and the crappy folder/track layout)

Well, I can only stress again the importance of obtaining a center speaker for your needs / desires. A very small center speaker, I believe, would best solve what you are trying to accomplish and would keep other settings (tv & AVR) to a minimum.

As for the retailer giving you wrong info, I'd march right in to their store and demand either they show you how to get english on the menu's (as promised) or get a full refund!

I know nothing about iTunes nor Media Center. I'm sure someone else in here may be able to answer this issue.
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post #3368 of 5236
10/26/07 at 10:48am
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Originally Posted by mits7372 View Post

OK my new 2700 is here. I'm not getting any sound out of left surround (BACK). It failed YPAO, no test tone. Then I thought of switching to just surround L and R since I have only one set of surrounds. It then passed YPAO. After setup I tried switching the left surround BACK to left surround and there's no sound out of the speaker.

I'm assuming this goes back for a problem with that channel or the binding posts. Any ideas?

Also when I try the USB port with a USB hard drive attached it says 'Disconnected'. Could it be my drive organization? I do have a folder of WMA's on it but there's other stuff. I was under the impresssion I could navigate to the music folder using the display menu.

BTW -- Does a speaker have to be setup with YPAO first? I mean if you don't connect all speakers that the unit is capable of driving for YPAO but then later connect another pair. Does that pair work?

Help! Thanks.

rear speaker: try playing any source as "7 ch stereo" and see if all speakers are firing. Make sure you connected the correct speaker wire to the correct terminal (rear surround incorrectly put onto surround presence). Then report back so others may help you diagnose further.

USB: try plugging in just a USB memory stick with at least one music file on it (mp3 or wma). Your hard drive MUST be formatted to FAT32. The Yamaha will not recognize an NTFS drive nor multiple partitions.

YPAO: No, YPAO is not needed to operate any speaker. YPAO only helps to "dial in" the correct settings (distance, PEQ, gain, etc...)
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post #3369 of 5236
10/26/07 at 11:16am
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Originally Posted by willy91342 View Post

Hmm..

Dumb question here,

The rxv2700 does not do dolby true hd or DD+ or dts hdma ?

you can only get these if your player decodes for you and you hook them up via 5.1 analog output from player to mult in to reciever?

This would mean that you wouldn't get these audio formats from your ps3?

Am I correct?

Yes and no. Yes, the 2700 will not "process" digital TrueHD nor DTS HD. However, if your player (HD/Bluray or PS3) decodes these newer HD audio formats and sends it to the 2700 then it will work with either HDMI audio or Multi Channel analog.

I'm guessing the PS3 can send the already processed audio via HDMI or Multi Channel outs. I'm certain the 2700 is capable of receiving either.
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post #3370 of 5236
10/26/07 at 11:19am
Would I need to configure the ps3 to set out as pcm?

or bitstream..
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post #3371 of 5236
10/26/07 at 11:26am
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Originally Posted by willy91342 View Post

Would I need to configure the ps3 to set out as pcm?

or bitstream..

Really not my area, but I think bitstream is unprocessed digital. If correct, then that won't work with TrueHD & DTS HD. I'm certain the 2700 will recognize PCM. But PCM conversion *may* wipe out the TrueHD & DTS HD audio leaving you with simple Dolby & DTS. *shrug*

I did a little checking for you and I think the PCM out from your player should work. Here is a link to a review on DEALTIME that seems to spell it out:
http://www.dealtime.com/xPR-Yamaha-R...D-307539644036

From the above review:
"This is a great receiver if you are looking at an HD DVD player or Blu-ray player as it should properly handle multi-channel PCM so you can hear TrueHD and other high def audio formats as intended. Your player has to be set to output PCM and not bitstream. "

and:
"* HDMI 1.3 is not needed at the present time, by anyone in spite of what some people think. HD players are doing their own decoding and sending the output via multi-channel PCM so you don't need to worry about the receiver being able to decode the audio from your HD player "
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post #3372 of 5236
10/26/07 at 1:22pm
Ty Toby
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post #3373 of 5236
10/26/07 at 3:10pm
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Originally Posted by toby10 View Post

rear speaker: try playing any source as "7 ch stereo" and see if all speakers are firing. Make sure you connected the correct speaker wire to the correct terminal (rear surround incorrectly put onto surround presence). Then report back so others may help you diagnose further.

Hi Toby: 2700 sounds great (lot better than the old DSP A100). Yes I did what you said. No sound from either terminals of the Surround back (either L or R, although earlier I was getting sound from R ). So I have surround speakers in the back but they are playing off Surround L & R. I really will only be using 2 surrounds but they have to be in the back.

Yamaha doesn't seem to have a 1-800 for tech support. Are they open Sat?
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post #3374 of 5236
10/26/07 at 4:13pm
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Originally Posted by mits7372 View Post

Hi Toby: 2700 sounds great (lot better than the old DSP A100). Yes I did what you said. No sound from either terminals of the Surround back (either L or R, although earlier I was getting sound from R ). So I have surround speakers in the back but they are playing off Surround L & R. I really will only be using 2 surrounds but they have to be in the back.

Yamaha doesn't seem to have a 1-800 for tech support. Are they open Sat?

Ya got me on tech support hours, never called them.

So you are saying your normal rear surrounds (L&R) are working fine, but your extended rear surrounds (surround back / pressence) are not? i.e. 7.1 surrounds? Maybe try OSM GUI under speakers, maybe extended 7.1 rears need to be initialized through the GUI?

I've seen those speakers listed on my GUI but they are greyed out as I only have a 5.1 system.
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post #3375 of 5236
10/26/07 at 4:36pm
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Originally Posted by toby10 View Post

Ya got me on tech support hours, never called them.

So you are saying your normal rear surrounds (L&R) are working fine, but your extended rear surrounds (surround back / pressence) are not? i.e. 7.1 surrounds? Maybe try OSM GUI under speakers, maybe extended 7.1 rears need to be initialized through the GUI?

I've seen those speakers listed on my GUI but they are greyed out as I only have a 5.1 system.

Reason I think they are not is that I had my extended rear surrounds plugged in for YPAO setup and the left channel failed repeatedly. I switched the speakers and the left still failed (no test tone). I then simply switched the speaker terminals to the other rears and it passed. I'll check into the GUI. I can't believe it's a channel output problem. What's perplexing is that now both channels on the extended surrounds are not working.

The Good: Thanks for the FAT32 tip. Reformatted my drive with Partition Magic, threw a couple of music folders on and my WMA's sound great, with 7.1 enhancer. Good recommendation by this forum to get the 2700. One thing it has done, is to make my Polk SDA2's sound a lot better than they used to. People on the Polk forum have been telling me they need more watts and that they are outstanding HT fronts and they sure are.

Q: Isn't YPAO known for giving faulty 'out of phase' advice. I think it did that for me on one of the surrounds. I switched R and B to please it temporarily.
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post #3376 of 5236
10/26/07 at 5:48pm
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Originally Posted by mits7372 View Post

Reason I think they are not is that I had my extended rear surrounds plugged in for YPAO setup and the left channel failed repeatedly. I switched the speakers and the left still failed (no test tone). I then simply switched the speaker terminals to the other rears and it passed. I'll check into the GUI. I can't believe it's a channel output problem. What's perplexing is that now both channels on the extended surrounds are not working.

The Good: Thanks for the FAT32 tip. Reformatted my drive with Partition Magic, threw a couple of music folders on and my WMA's sound great, with 7.1 enhancer. Good recommendation by this forum to get the 2700. One thing it has done, is to make my Polk SDA2's sound a lot better than they used to. People on the Polk forum have been telling me they need more watts and that they are outstanding HT fronts and they sure are.

Q: Isn't YPAO known for giving faulty 'out of phase' advice. I think it did that for me on one of the surrounds. I switched R and B to please it temporarily.


Yeah, I love the music enhancer. It really improves the sound quality for compressed audio. Wait till you hear some of the internet radio feeds in 7 ch enhancer.

I also needed increased watts for upgraded speakers which was my initial reason for starting to look for a new AVR and wound up with all the added features the 2700 offers.

YPAO is known for MANY strange anomalies. It's still a rather new and difficult technology to get it down exactly right. Especially in a low-mid priced box with a low end mic. I'll bet damn few (if any) have ever simply run YPAO alone with no further needed adjustments or tweaking. It never gets it right, but does provide a good starting point.
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post #3377 of 5236
10/28/07 at 3:19pm
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Originally Posted by toby10 View Post

Ya got me on tech support hours, never called them.

Maybe try OSM GUI under speakers, maybe extended 7.1 rears need to be initialized through the GUI?

I've seen those speakers listed on my GUI but they are greyed out as I only have a 5.1 system.

You were right. The GUI shows rear surrounds listed as 'NONE' and the troubleshooting guide at the back of the manual lists this as a reason if no sound is heard from rears. For the moment I'll assume that's the reason, I need to verify by changing this and checking those terminals at the back with a spare speaker.

I get a lot more output than I used to with the old Y on all speakers, especially the surrounds. Since I only have one set of surround speakers should I be using the rears (as I have them now) instead of the back or extended rears?
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post #3378 of 5236
10/28/07 at 4:51pm
Well let me tell you the frustrations I have had with my reciever regarding the HDMI !!!

I have a PS3, Toshiba HDXA1, Cable HD box.

I have finally realized that the HDXA1 does not work with the rxv2700 so I hook up the audio via analog 6 mulit in and get the hd audio to work.
I've been using a hdmi switcher from these 3 units and hooking up the optical cables from ps3 and the cable box to the reciever.

I've now hooked up the ps3 back up to the yammy because i've seen a post about the ps3 working with the yammy now. SO after about 1 hour watching a movie I was feeling pretty good about it and what do you know.. the picture would cut in and out and go green !!

With my cable box I didn't even want to hook up the hdmi to the reciever because I know it had issues before.. so I hooked up via component and let the hdmi out of the reciever get the picture.. so that worked again for about 1.5 hours and again... cut in and out and green screen..

It seems like when my reciever is warmed up the hdmi stops working !!

Can someone please tell me what I can do? I'm thinking of dumping this reciever and spending some more money on something else..

Frustrated!!!!!!!!!!
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post #3379 of 5236
10/29/07 at 4:43am
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Originally Posted by mits7372 View Post

You were right. The GUI shows rear surrounds listed as 'NONE' and the troubleshooting guide at the back of the manual lists this as a reason if no sound is heard from rears. For the moment I'll assume that's the reason, I need to verify by changing this and checking those terminals at the back with a spare speaker.

I get a lot more output than I used to with the old Y on all speakers, especially the surrounds. Since I only have one set of surround speakers should I be using the rears (as I have them now) instead of the back or extended rears?

So anything beyond a std. 5.1 setup and the additional surrounds need to be "activated" in the GUI? Good to know.

You may need to try different surround rear/back/presence setups to see which you prefer. But I'd stick with a std. 5.1 setup for rears (surround L/R) then add additional surrounds (back & presence) if you have them. If your system thinks you have a 7.1 setup (surround L/R plus rears) then it would probably want to send certain audio signals to the surround L/R's that would now be missing.

But I've only ever had 5.1 due to room constraints so I have no experience with a 7.1+ system.
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post #3380 of 5236
10/29/07 at 5:07am
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Originally Posted by willy91342 View Post

Well let me tell you the frustrations I have had with my reciever regarding the HDMI !!!

I have a PS3, Toshiba HDXA1, Cable HD box.

I have finally realized that the HDXA1 does not work with the rxv2700 so I hook up the audio via analog 6 mulit in and get the hd audio to work.
I've been using a hdmi switcher from these 3 units and hooking up the optical cables from ps3 and the cable box to the reciever.

I've now hooked up the ps3 back up to the yammy because i've seen a post about the ps3 working with the yammy now. SO after about 1 hour watching a movie I was feeling pretty good about it and what do you know.. the picture would cut in and out and go green !!

With my cable box I didn't even want to hook up the hdmi to the reciever because I know it had issues before.. so I hooked up via component and let the hdmi out of the reciever get the picture.. so that worked again for about 1.5 hours and again... cut in and out and green screen..

It seems like when my reciever is warmed up the hdmi stops working !!

Can someone please tell me what I can do? I'm thinking of dumping this reciever and spending some more money on something else..

Frustrated!!!!!!!!!!

That sucks willy. I'd be frustrated too. The only thing I can think of to help resolve or troubleshoot:

- remove HDMI switcher, go direct to 2700
- somehow provide more/better cooling for 2700

You may just have a bum unit. I've watched 2.5 hr DVD movies and 6+ hours of OTA HD programming, both HDMI connections through the 2700, and don't have those video issues. The only thing different seems to be I don't have an HDMI switcher and I do have cooling fans located below the 2700. *shrug*

What do you mean the HDXA1 does not work with the 2700? No audio via HDMI? No video? Both?

Any chance you could temporarily move the 2700 to get a small fan blowing air from the bottom of the unit? Then let it run for several hours while you do something else around the house. Hopefully that solves the problem cuz with less than $ 30.00 you could add two ultra quiet fans under the 2700 as I did. They go on and off automatically with the 2700. If that doesn't solve the problem then it sounds like you are screwed.
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post #3381 of 5236
10/29/07 at 5:27am
thanks for the reply toby

I'm using the switcher in place of the rxv2700. I don't have the switcher run to my reciever. Which I also tried!! lol When I recieved the 2700 I hooked up everything via hdmi and for the first 10 mins it was working fine. Then the whole green screen would come up and nothing.

I was trying to find everything about the hdmi 1 error for the hdxa1 online and I came to find that there are handshake issues. I am now waiting for the hda35 in the mail. I also found that the rxv2700 is known for handshake issues but there are also alot of people who don't experience it. So I just said forget it and purchased the hdmi switcher which works great and passes 1080p to my projector but I can't get the hd audio.

When I hooked up the ps3 to the rxv2700 and for the first hour I was finally able to hear what dolby true hd sounds like !! omg I love it.. So now I'm hooked. I don't want to go back to the switcher.

I can try the fan but I'm just afraid that it would fail. I'm not feeling so good as you can see. I already tried replacing all of my hdmi cables with about $500.00 worth of monster cables but that didn't fix the issue. Do you have a link or a good place to go to for this fan? does it run quiet?

thanks
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post #3382 of 5236
10/29/07 at 6:36am
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Originally Posted by willy91342 View Post

thanks for the reply toby

I'm using the switcher in place of the rxv2700. I don't have the switcher run to my reciever. Which I also tried!! lol When I recieved the 2700 I hooked up everything via hdmi and for the first 10 mins it was working fine. Then the whole green screen would come up and nothing.

I was trying to find everything about the hdmi 1 error for the hdxa1 online and I came to find that there are handshake issues. I am now waiting for the hda35 in the mail. I also found that the rxv2700 is known for handshake issues but there are also alot of people who don't experience it. So I just said forget it and purchased the hdmi switcher which works great and passes 1080p to my projector but I can't get the hd audio.

When I hooked up the ps3 to the rxv2700 and for the first hour I was finally able to hear what dolby true hd sounds like !! omg I love it.. So now I'm hooked. I don't want to go back to the switcher.

I can try the fan but I'm just afraid that it would fail. I'm not feeling so good as you can see. I already tried replacing all of my hdmi cables with about $500.00 worth of monster cables but that didn't fix the issue. Do you have a link or a good place to go to for this fan? does it run quiet?

thanks

Runs very quiet. Unless you are one foot away at ear level, you cannot hear it (nor see it). But it's a homemade job. Two pc fans (p/n: DC-CF101 made by Dynex) from Best Buy attached to an old dc wall transformer I had laying around from an old Motorola cell phone.

These two 80mm (std pc size) fans are mounted to two small metal brackets I had laying around then wire-tied to the bottom of my wire rack shelf. Power is triggered on/off as transformer is plugged in on back of 2700 ac outlet.

But I'd really suggest trying a temporary thing, even with a regular small house fan you have laying around, just to see if this solves the problem. It would be a tremendous waste of time & money to custom fit a fan assembly only to find out it doesn't solve the problem.

I also have an intermittent hand shake issue with audio only from one HDMI source. But a quick cycling of on/off resolves it. And I'm quite confident the problem lies with the device, not the 2700 in my setup.

Sorry you are having such issues.
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post #3383 of 5236
10/29/07 at 7:12am
I've been reading for quite awhile and thinking maybe a 1x2 powered hdmi switch would work for me..

It would be from my ps3 to the 1x2 switch then outputting to the rxv2700 for the audio and the 5x1 switch I currently have out to my PJ for the video..

You think this would work! I hope so. I don't think there would be issues about cutting out from just the audio from the hdmi ports.

I think this would work..

Any comments?
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post #3384 of 5236
10/29/07 at 9:24am
I recently upgraded my HTPC's video card to an ATI HD 2600 XT with HDMI output.

This card also has audio over HDMI support, but I don't use it, I get my audio from the optical output on my HTPC.

My RX-V2700 audio input is set to get to optical, it is not set to auto, nor is it set to HDMI.

I am not sure about the sequence, but for some reason sometimes I won't get audio output, then when I go check the RX-V2700 config, it changed from optical to auto, and the sound is fed from the HDMI audio, instead of my primary optical audio.

Why does the RX-V2700 change from optical to auto by itself?
How can I prevent the RX-V2700 from changing its own configuration?

Regard
P.
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post #3385 of 5236
10/29/07 at 9:58am
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Originally Posted by toby10 View Post

So anything beyond a std. 5.1 setup and the additional surrounds need to be "activated" in the GUI? Good to know.

I wouldn't say that. I started the YPAO config. with the (enhanced )back rears attached. It correctly identified the other rears as not present and then validated one of my rears but failed consistently on the left back rear. So I switched the back rears (surrounds) to the other pair and it passed. Come to think of it, as I write, perhaps YPAO then set the back surrrounds to NONE at that point. So I probably still need to change this in the GUI and check the output with a spare speaker.

I've been experimenting with USB and my WMA files. The Y won't work when I have my entire directory (35GB) attached. I think it's the file limit (I have about 4300 tracks). If you've used a thumb drive successfully, what make/brand did you use. I have a Cruzer 4.0GB drive but I find it doesn't have FAT32. Also many of these thumb drives have their own mount software. Do you know of any that just look like a FAT32 drive and can be managed by the PC (Y 2700)?
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post #3386 of 5236
10/29/07 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by willy91342 View Post

I've been reading for quite awhile and thinking maybe a 1x2 powered hdmi switch would work for me..

It would be from my ps3 to the 1x2 switch then outputting to the rxv2700 for the audio and the 5x1 switch I currently have out to my PJ for the video..

You think this would work! I hope so. I don't think there would be issues about cutting out from just the audio from the hdmi ports.

I think this would work..

Any comments?

Yes, it may just work for audio only. Though, you may want to check this before getting another HDMI switch. Maybe feed your tv both HDMI audio and video for several hours. Even if the video craps out, make sure the audio is still functioning.
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post #3387 of 5236
10/29/07 at 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by ptr727 View Post

I recently upgraded my HTPC's video card to an ATI HD 2600 XT with HDMI output.

This card also has audio over HDMI support, but I don't use it, I get my audio from the optical output on my HTPC.

My RX-V2700 audio input is set to get to optical, it is not set to auto, nor is it set to HDMI.

I am not sure about the sequence, but for some reason sometimes I won't get audio output, then when I go check the RX-V2700 config, it changed from optical to auto, and the sound is fed from the HDMI audio, instead of my primary optical audio.

Why does the RX-V2700 change from optical to auto by itself?
How can I prevent the RX-V2700 from changing its own configuration?

Regard
P.

Couple of things to keep in mind:
- if you are changing these settings (optical over auto detect) and then you recall any previous memory setting, the memory is wiping out your changes. Memory saves EVERY and ALL settings.

- you can select inputs for each device from the front panel

Try changing your input to optical for that device then save as memory 1 or 2.
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post #3388 of 5236
10/29/07 at 2:09pm
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I wouldn't say that. I started the YPAO config. with the (enhanced )back rears attached. It correctly identified the other rears as not present and then validated one of my rears but failed consistently on the left back rear. So I switched the back rears (surrounds) to the other pair and it passed. Come to think of it, as I write, perhaps YPAO then set the back surrrounds to NONE at that point. So I probably still need to change this in the GUI and check the output with a spare speaker.

I've been experimenting with USB and my WMA files. The Y won't work when I have my entire directory (35GB) attached. I think it's the file limit (I have about 4300 tracks). If you've used a thumb drive successfully, what make/brand did you use. I have a Cruzer 4.0GB drive but I find it doesn't have FAT32. Also many of these thumb drives have their own mount software. Do you know of any that just look like a FAT32 drive and can be managed by the PC (Y 2700)?

I use a Western Digital MyBook 250 gb USB Hard Drive. Currently I have around 4200 songs on it (same as you it seems) and I'm using about 180 gb which is all uncompressed wav files. The 2700 sees and plays all of the contents. I also use a 1 tb hard drive for backup of the 250 gb disk and the 2700 plays fine from that as well.

The one USB thumb drive I used was a no-name free-bee 2 gb unit, but I only loaded a few songs to test audio formats.

All of the uncompressed music is all in one big folder on the WD disk. Then many subfolders after that (genre's, alphabetical files, favorites, etc...)

I know Windows has file size limits for FAT32, but I have not had any trouble getting the 2700 to find, select, play these files. You are connecting the 32 gb hard drive DIRECTLY to the 2700 via USB, correct? i.e. no computer is also attached to the hard drive you are attempting to access from the 2700.

Something to try, maybe put like 10 songs in each of 10 folders, then see if the 2700 can get into those, just to see if it's the one HUGE file you have that is causing the problem.

Maybe it's all my subfolders that are working for me. *shrug*

Try this previous thread on adding an external USB hd to the 2700, may help diagnose your issue:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post10444925
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post #3389 of 5236
10/29/07 at 9:50pm
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Couple of things to keep in mind:
- if you are changing these settings (optical over auto detect) and then you recall any previous memory setting, the memory is wiping out your changes. Memory saves EVERY and ALL settings.

- you can select inputs for each device from the front panel

Try changing your input to optical for that device then save as memory 1 or 2.

I'm not using any memory options, I simply change the inputs, then the audio selection reverts to auto.

I'll go play with the memory options, but I have never used any memory options.
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post #3390 of 5236
10/29/07 at 10:41pm
Hmm...I've been lusting after a 2600, but the lack of HDMI 1.2a is bumming me out, since I want to connect an Oppo 980 for SACD/DVD-Audio. I also run a RCA HDV5000 HDDVD player.

I read such great things about the 2600's audio quality. Has anybody compared the 1700/2700 audio quality to the 2600?

Now, I'm thinking of switching to trying to pick up a used 1700 for about the same used prices I am seeing for the 2600. The 2700s are too high.

Also, I see in this thread some mentions of possible overheating problems with the 2700. Is this an issue with the 1700?

Thanks much.
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