The Official Yamaha RX-V1700/RX-V2700 Thread - Page 169

long time no poster on this thread for the reason that my amp bought in japan was left unused for 2.5yrs.I was quite of worried to use it in China,where I moved then, due to different voltage.

so to make a story short,I am back in Japan (thanks god..) and this week-end,started to put all my gear together again.
To come to find 1 big odd issue with sound output while watching DVDs or Blurays.

The voice of the actors is totally mute if I use the differnt Sound enhancers from the amp (movie,surround,entertainment etc) but if I use stereo or music enhancer then it is just fine.
I treid all sound modes from different Blurays and DVD and all behave the same,really weird.

My set-up is:

PS3 as player>AMP>TV Viera all connected via HDMI and the speakers are 2 front floorstanders

I must be missing something obvious for you guys expert from this amp,I feel I have to learn it all over again but the manual is everything but user friendly....

It sounds like you only have two speakers connected right now, but the receiver thinks you have more speakers. Go into the manual setup menu (MANUAL SETUP / BASIC MENU / SPEAKER SET), and make sure you specify NONE for any speakers that are not connected.

And if you haven't already, I would also run the PS3 audio setup for HDMI, to make sure it detects all the modes supported by the receiver.

you were right,the amp thought indeed there was more than 2 speakers in my set-up.I ran a YPAO check and it came OK after that,the PS3 settings therefore were fine.

Merci!

apologies if that one sounds dull but reusing the amp after such long frozen period dosent help.....
Problem I am having now is as follows:

PS3 as player>AMP>TV Viera all connected via HDMI and MultiAV cables from PS3 to TV

I would love to be able to display PS3 output without having to switch on the amp all the time.
This works fine with audio output (the TV speakers play input sound coming from the PS3 just fine thanks to the MultiAV cable) but no joy,black screen,when it comes to video output.

I have tried the different sources in on the TV no joy and in the end the only way to get PS3 picture is to switch on the amp and use DVD as input source.

Again sorry if that sound stupid but can I achieve this or do I need an additional HDMI switch/repeater?

The 2700 does not have video pass-through when it is off. An HDMI splitter is your only option.
Just make certain whatever splitter you get can properly split video and audio without issues.

Hi I live in Australia. I am having issues with hdmi ports on my samsung led ie when changing digital inputs sometimes the hdmi ports do not work, takes some time, unplugging it all, then it recovers. I was told by Oz Tech that it was a handshake issue and to turn it off in ADVANCED.MONITOR. Anyone know where to find this - I have really read the manual from cover to cover and it is not there.

On the 2700 this Monitor Check setting is in the Advanced Setup portion of the manual.
I presume this is the same for the 1700.

IIRC, it's an option under the Video/HDMI settings

doing a little research I just found out that the firmware can be upgraded. I checked my V2700 and it currently has K052/I044/3.0R

1. How out dated is it?
2. Is there one single firmware upgrade I should do? Or is it a multi step process?
3. What known issue's will the firmware upgrade fix?

Thanks, Tom

I believe the last 2700 FW update is: R061/L047/4.5r

More info & where to dl:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3846

so, no issue with skipping over the previous firmware's and go straight to this one?

You only need to install the latest one.

I am trying to run my laptop HDMI out to my RX-V2700 receiver and can not get the audio to work properly. I've determine that the problem is linked to the V2700 since if I hook my hdmi cable directly to my tv it works fine so I am assuming that the laptop is putting out an audio signal. I've tried putting the v2700 in straight mode as the laptop is doing the digital processing but this still produces no audio. The only way I've been able to get any audio is if I use the "direct" mode in which case I get a single audio channel to the center channel but then I get no video.

From reading the v2700 manual it seems to me that the "straight" sound mode should do the trick but this along with several other variations have produced no results.

Anyone have any ideas where I may be going wrong?

I know this sounds silly, but do you know how to configure your input devices in the menu? Sounds llike you don't hav ethe video and audio on the same input for the laptop. With HDMI, you shouldn't have to do this, but perhaps you do. I know it's very easy when changing the audio selections to mix up the audio and video between input devices. For example, it's easy to mix up the sound from the DTV box with the DVD player, as an example.

I'm no expert but I would start with playing around in the menu system of your RX V2700.

good luck.

I assume that you when you plug your laptop directly into the tv, you get full sound, and not just a center channel, right? How about trying a different input device, like a DVD player or something on that same input and see if you get the video and sound that you were looking for. That will at least rule out the laptop as the problem.

I have never updated my firmware, just tried the link on the firmware page, and the Download link is dead. It tries to dl the file, but then says it's not available. Anyone else have the latest 2700 firmware?

OMG, just checked and my firmware says I050 H040/3.0R

Is that old or what?

I have a 3D wd-65738 tv on the way. I read that I must run the video direct from the source (DTV, PopCorn Hour, DVD, etc) to the tv. I guess I will have to use fiber connections for the audio. This sucks, we went to HDMI to get down to one cable, and now with 3D signals not working with the 2700, I'm back to 2 cables again. wtf

Yes I've played around with the V2700 menu options. In the v2700 menu both video and audio have been set to hdmi and the sound mode to "straight". On the laptop in the ATI hdmi audio setup it recognizes that the hdmi cable is connected to a 7.1 setup since I get this as an output option while if I connect the hdmi cable directly to my tv i only get 2 channel stereo. So it seems that the laptop and v2700 are at least recognizing each other. The problem is that the v2700 isn't processing the audio signal coming from the laptop. Is there a specific audio specifications I need to set? The ATI hdmi audio setup seems to allow different bit rates and frequencies but haven't done a trial and error on all the variations.

I should also point out that when I put the v2700 in direct mode and select 5.1 output from the laptop I get sound from the correct speakers during a test sound mode. Although if I select 7.1 I get sound but the rear speakers become the presence speakers and no sound come from the rear speaker channels. I get no video also which is strange because when I read the manual it says that the direct mode doesn't turn off the video circuitry is the video and audio is set to hdmi in the gui setup menu (which I have confirmed both are set to hdmi). If I could get video while in the direct mode this would solve my problem but am not sure what to do. Any suggestions?

It downloads fine for me with that link. After you click "RXV2700-0044.zip" you then hit the down arrow on the next screen.

Your 2700 is a five year old product and is only HDMI version 1.2a, so many of the later HDMI features will not work via the 2700. 3D might work as pass-through via the 2700, but I doubt it. Another popular option is to use a Blu-ray 3D player which has two dedicated HDMI outs, one each for video and audio.

wdeertz,
I have no experience streaming video to a TV, but I wonder if part of the problem might be the audio codec (or the container of that audio codec) that is tripping up the 2700? Maybe try the simplest audio codecs from your laptop over HDMI to see if that works. Like MP3 or uTube video or even an MP3 song just to see if the 2700 is properly decoding the audio.

Dunno, just thinking out loud to troubleshoot the issue.

Toby, thanks for all your suggestions. I thought I had the problem fixed but was soon disappointed to find out that wasn't the case. I upgraded the firmware and then tried the audio without turning on the TV and to my surprise I got sound. At that point I thought the firmware upgrade fixed the problem but then when I turned on the TV and tried again I got video but no audio. The funny thing is that when the TV was off the v2700 clearly recognized the hdmi input audio signal as when I put the v2700 in the straight mode it showed as MPCM when playing from a youtube video, while when I played the same source with the TV on in straight mode is showed analog.

Why would turning on the TV result in the audio being stripped out from the signal coming down the hdmi cable?

My setup is

laptop ------>>>>> RX/v2700 --------->>>>> TV
TV off audio ok
TV on no audio

There must be an obvious explanation for this weird behavior, anyone????

You could try going into the ADVANCED SETUP menu and change MONITOR CHECK to SKIP. It's meant more for video issues, but it might work.

Just tried again, no luck re the dl. I get past the part of clicking on the arrow, then it is about to start the dl and a error pops up saying the file is not available, try again later...wtf. Will try again later I guess... Any other place to get this update?

What will updating the firmware really get me, at this point? Any big wins, or really not worth the effort?

I don't expect the 2700 to pass 3d video. The good thing is my popcorn hour has hdmi and also fiber for audio, so should be fine.

Re the blue ray player with 2 hdmi's, that is only necessary if you don't have fiber audio. Fiber audio and hidmi audio are the same quality as far as I know.

The bottom line is we are back to 2 cables for each device, unless you have the latest and greatest equipment.

BTW, my power station went out and I need to replace it. I found the Monster Cable MP HDP 2500 on ebay for $289. Anyone else out there using this power center? Would you recommend something else?j

Thanks!

kriktsemaj99, thanks for the suggestion, I tried it but it didn't help with my problem. I am 100% certain that the laptop is sending both a video and audio signal but for some strange reason the v2700 is stripping the audio signal out and not playing it when the tv is on. I tried setting the hdmi setting to "other" to see if it would pass the audio signal to the tv but this didn't help either.

Depends what you mean by "quality". The quality is fine for both, but optical digital (I presume this is what you mean by "fiber") is not capable of multi-ch hi-res audio, like what is present in HD audio (as in Dolby TrueHD or DTS-MA).
So if you play a Blu-ray movie using non-HDMI audio you will only get the standard Dolby or DTS, as is available via standard DVD or your cable/sat service.
Again, whether this means anything to you only you can decide. But if you want Blu-ray HD audio then anything but HDMI will not work.
There is a way to get the HD audio via 5.1 analog inputs but I doubt your Blu-ray player supports this feature.

weertz,
I think I'd try calling Yamaha at this point. Might be copyright protection issue? Simple but overlooked setting on the 2700? Maybe even a bug?
Who knows, but I'd try Yamaha support. They might even have logged calls of this same issue to help troubleshoot it.

So I bought a new computer....

I've used the receiver manager for a very long time. In fact, its been so long I forgot how I set it up on my XP laptop but I've got jgyenese's post. Anyone out there installed it on Win 7 recently? Is the NET232 s/w compatible?

I don't use Vista or 7, but maybe they offer an XP compatibility mode you can select?

Would anyone know where I might get some of the older firmwares for a RX-V1700. The one I have at the moment is using software version 'I' according to the serial port (I assume this is the firmware version).

I'm using it with an automation control program and the driver was designed for an older firmware version.

Hope someone can put me right here.

cheers

I assume you mean a control program that uses RS-232 commands. I'd be surprised if it really needs a specific firmware version (especially an older one). What exactly happens when you run the program with the current version?

Yep, its the CQC program that connects to it via the serial port. The author wrote the driver for the RX-V1700 that had the older firmware version. I'm guessing (as is the CQC developer) that the newer firmware altered some aspect of the serial control.

The driver fails to get past accepting the input for Zone3 but this basically renders the driver useless altogether. Ive changed the input a few times with the Manager Program but it still won't work. I updated the firmware around a year ago before using it with CQC so regretting that now as what the update fixed didn't effect my usage.

Im in a bit of fix!

Cheers for the fast reply.

Anything is possible, but I still think it's fairly unlikely a firmware update changed the serial protocol. Debugging the driver might be your best bet. I don't know anything about CQ, but if you have any questions about the Yamaha serial protocol I can probably help (I control my RX-V1800 via RS-232, and it's very similar to the 1700).