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post #5221 of 5350
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Originally Posted by SwitchbladeHD View Post

I'm selling my RX-V2700 for $400. with free ground UPS shipping (USA states only). It's in perfect condition and I've never had any issues with it.

Based on ebay sells of units in great condition, this is a good deal. You can find them cheaper, but with dings and who knows how they were treated. Mine has not one mark. I have the config mic and manual too.

PM me if interested.

Thats a good price
Seen some here in Canada trying to get 700 but for the most part it ain't gonna happen
post #5222 of 5350
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Originally Posted by tyreman View Post

Thats a good price
Seen some here in Canada trying to get 700 but for the most part it ain't gonna happen

Thanks. I'll do $375. and you pay for shipping to Canada, and it's yours. smile.gif
post #5223 of 5350
Let's see if I do this right..
Just stumbled unto this forum.
I have an RXV2700 that has never been set up correctly.
I don't have time and I also do not understand all the jargon.
Is their a PC setup utility available that will making setting up less painful and allow me to get the best out of this unit?
I'm also led to believe that the firmware/software can/should be upgraded.
How do I check the version and how do I upgrade if necessary?
Lots of questions with answers possibly in the 175 pages of this thread.
Help, please?
Kobus
post #5224 of 5350
It has a built in-auto setup (YPAO). See page 35 of the 2700 manual (which you can download from any Yamaha web site if you don't have it). You need the microphone that came with the the 2700, otherwise you have to set it up manually. There's nothing for a PC that can help with the setup.

YPAO is not foolproof, so you need to check a few things after running it. In some cases the correct settings are going to depend on what speakers you have. e.g. in most cases all speakers should be set as small if you have a subwoofer, but they might get set as large by YPAO.

Not sure about the latest firmware version.
post #5225 of 5350
I own a 2700..... are you using it for surround sound? 2 channel?.... That model is over 5 years old. While still a keeper, there is no easy way to set it up....TEll us more about your intentions.....rolleyes.gif
post #5226 of 5350
Hi All, this is my first post.

I have a rx-v1700 that has suffered some water damage on the DSP circuit board and now the front right channel is not working.

The repair costs are too expensive at the moment so I was wondering if anyone has a broken reciever (with a different fault) that they would like to sell so I can strip it for parts? I know its a long shot but I thought its worth a try

I live in newcastle australia

Thanks
post #5227 of 5350
See post 3845 for FW verification and updating (four year old info, posted links within post may not work):

http://www.avsforum.com/t/713397/the-official-yamaha-rx-v1700-rx-v2700-thread/3840#post_12776439
post #5228 of 5350
Hi there. I have a rx-v2700 receiver and the zone 2&3 function has stopped working. I have tried a system reset to no avail. I tried to use the link on this forum to a firmware update, but the link is no longer valid. Does anyone have the latest firmware for this receiver that they could share? Failing that, is anyone aware of what would cause the zones to stop working? Thanks
post #5229 of 5350
Here is Yamaha's tech support # 714-522-9105.....MON-FRI 8-4pm. OR 866-866-4616, OR 800-292-2982

Here is the Yamaha website for the firmware update I used sometime back:

WWW.YECSUPPORT@YAMAHA.COM.

i USED VERSION : KO(ZERO)52/I(EYE)O(ZERO)44/3.O(ZERO)R,

BUT RUMOR HAS IT THAT A FORMER ISSUE WAS ALSO AVAILABLE: K052/L047/4.2r


THERE MAY BE LATER VERSIONS....BEFORE I DO ANYTHING TRIPLE CHECK WITH YAMAHA !!!!!!!!. OR YOU'LL WIPE OUT YOUR MEMORY.......!!!eek.gif

'FURTHER QUESTIONS... i COULD SCAN THE DATA i HAVE AND EMAIL IT TO YOU....

G;)OOD LUCK!
post #5230 of 5350
Thank you for the reply. I scoured that site and the US site but there was no firmware update. I am in New Zealand, so I will try the NZ distributor first and then call the States if I have no luck
post #5231 of 5350
I sold my RX-V2700, but here are the latest firmware instructions and I have attached what I think is the last update (44). I never did update my unit, as it wipes out some of the settings and from what I read, it only fixed a few minor things. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK - DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!!! That said, I did obtain these instructions and the firmware file directly from Yamaha's website about 1 year ago.

RX-V2700 FW UPDATE INSTRUCTIONS for 0044 FW version:

0044 file version = R061/L047/4.5r on your 2700

Carefully follow the RX-V2700 firmware instructions to complete the update. If you’re
experiencing problems with the firmware update, FIRST refer to the FAQ’s listed at the bottom of
the RX-V2700 Firmware update instructions page. Otherwise, contact YAMAHA Electronics
Customer Service Department support line by dialing (800) 292-2982 (800) 292-2982 Monday through Friday
from 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. PST for further assistance.
INSTALLATION DIRECTIONS:
1. Connect the power cable of the main unit to the AC outlet.
2. Please make sure that the MASTER ON/OFF switch is turned OFF.
3. Press the “MASTER ON/OFF” key of the main unit while simultaneously
pressing the “STRAIGHT” key of the main unit. Then the ADVANCED SET-UP
mode is activated.
4. Press the “NIGHT” key of the main unit for about 5 seconds.
5. Turn the “PROGRAM” know to select USB.
6. Press the “NIGHT” key on the main unit.
7. Insert the USB flash memory to the USB terminal of the main unit. (Writing of the
firmware is started. It takes about 10 seconds before the writing is started.)
8. When writing of the firmware is completed, the power of the main unit turns
OFF/ON automatically and back to the normal mode.
NOTE:
The “Firmware Update” process will take approximately 45 minutes to complete. Once the update is
complete, the receiver will shut down and then power back on by itself to show completion of the update.
FIRMWARE VERIFICATION CONFIRMATION:
To verify the firmware version, please follow the listed steps below.
1. Please make sure that the MASTER ON/OFF switch is turned OFF.
2. Press the “MASTER ON/OFF” key of the main unit while simultaneously
pressing the “STRAIGHT” key of the main unit. Then the ADVANCED SET-UP
mode is activated.
3. Wait 2 minutes while the receiver processes the firmware version.
4. Hold down the Enhanced Button for approximately 5 seconds.
“Firmware Version Number” is displayed (R061/L047/4.5r). If you see (R061/----/4.5r),
please wait for 2 minutes then re-check. Your RX-V2700 receiver is now updated.

And then I had another doc for checking to see what firmware you have:

FIRMWARE VERIFICATION CONFIRMATION:
To verify the firmware version, please follow the listed steps below.
1. Please make sure that the MASTER ON/OFF switch is turned OFF.
2. Press the “MASTER ON/OFF” key of the main unit while simultaneously
pressing the “STRAIGHT” key of the main unit. Then the ADVANCED SET-UP
mode is activated.
3. Wait 2 minutes while the receiver processes the firmware version.
4. Hold down the Enhanced Button for approximately 5 seconds.
“Firmware Version Number” is displayed (K052/L047/4.1r). If you see (K052/----/4.1r),
please wait for 2 minutes then re-check. Your RX-V2700 receiver is now updated.

Enjoy
RXV2700-0044.zip 4603k .zip file
post #5232 of 5350
Hi There,

Where can I get the firmware image in order to update the RX-V2700?

Many thanks
Pierre
post #5233 of 5350
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Originally Posted by pierredp View Post

Hi There,

Where can I get the firmware image in order to update the RX-V2700?

Many thanks
Pierre

One post above you. wink.gif
post #5234 of 5350
Thank you very much SwitchbladeHD
post #5235 of 5350
you're welcome! biggrin.gif
post #5236 of 5350
Ha ha, how did I miss that :-).

Many thanks,
Pierre
post #5237 of 5350
Suffering strange issue with my RX-V2700 - Relay click and HDMI switching


Seems it is related to a CEC HDMI "All OFF" command via the HDMI 2-way network.

Even though you might have disabled CEC HDMI on the TV and Yamaha Receiver.

My set up is as follows

Sony Bravia KDL46X3100
Yamaha RX – V2700
Vu+ Ultimo Sat receiver

ALL CONNECT VIA HDMI.

My problem is when i turn the TV and RX-V2700 off at night, it turns off the VU+ Ultimos (Sat Receiver) Video and Audio output, hence, internal recordings fail. Even though it doesn't put the Vu+ into standby.

What happens in my case, is about 20-25 seconds after i turn the Sony Bravia TV off, there is a "relay click" in the back of the Yamaha Receiver.
This as it turns out seems to control the HDMI input/outputs??? Would that be correct?

So for an example, if i am watching TV via the my Sat receiver, say i'm watching a Music Video channel, and i turn the Sony TV off, as i just want to hear the music.... As i turn the TV off, there is a momentary lose of sound, then it returns (1 second) then after 20-25 seconds, the Yamaha Receiver "clicks" and all Audio stops!
Even though the Yamaha Receiver is still ON!

Now, you would think this just affects the Yamaha Rx-V2700 receiver, but somehow, the turning off of the HDMI ports on the Yamaha Receiver, also affects the Sat Receiver itself (if you were half way into a recording, this "click" is exactly where the recording will stop, in the Vu+ Ultimo)

Now......

Turn the Sony TV back ON, the Audio from the Yamaha RX-V2700 Receiver comes on instantly!!! And the recording will continue from that point too.

It is completely doing my head in!!!

I have disabled all CEC-HDMI setting in the Sony TV
I have disabled all CEC-HDMI settings in the Yamaha RX-V2700 Receiver
Same with Vu+ Ultimo Sat Receiver....

The ONLY way i can turn my TV off and have it NOT affect the Sat Receiver, is to UNPLUG the HDMI cable going to the Sat Receiver first.
Then i can safely turn OFF the Sony TV and Yamaha RX-V2700 Receiver without turning off the internal audio/video outputs of the Sat Receiver.

I really hope we find a solution for this....

What is going on with this strange delayed relay that clicks when i Turn the Sony TV off, if i turn just the RV-X2700 off (into stand-by) this relay click DOESN NOT happen.

Its obviously some kind of CEC-HDMI "wake up on command" type thing..... So the RX-V2700 could be in stand-by, and by turn the TV on, it kicks the RX-V2700 into life

Buy why it shuts down my Sat Receivers internal Video and Audio transport stream is beyond me????

Just tried the same test, but this time i turned the RX-V2700 off with the Master Power On/Off switch (thinking that would power down the unit completely), Turn the Sony Bravia TV OFF and after 20-25seconds, that same relay sound "clicked" in the RX-V2700 and it turned off my Sat Receivers Video and Audio output.

I am really at a lose with this one
Edited by Aussie Grapeape - 7/7/13 at 2:24pm
post #5238 of 5350
May I add my 2 cents to this discussion? I also have an Rx2700 amon other units...After much frustration, It was suggested for me to buy a "real remote" and forget about the remotes whihc came with your cable/Sat box or the Rx2700....

Go out and spend the money and buy a LOGITECH HARMONY 1(ONE)..... Yes their about $150 new on Ebay.... But after 5 years, they are indestructable and ALWAYS HAVE THE LATEST CODES, ICONS and, EASY TO PROGRAM, UPDATE, OR CHANGE.... tECH SUPPORT IT FREE AND THEY WILL WALK YOU THROUGH EACH STEP....

Universal remotes almost always loose their memory.... The Harmony batteries are about $8.00 on Ebay.......biggrin.gif
post #5239 of 5350
Interesting.... Yeah, the problem doesn't seem to be Remote control related.
But i guess it might be

Thank You for your advise smile.gif

Seems my Sat Box is dependent on the HDMI network staying "powered"
Seems when the relay "clicks" in the back of RX-V2700, that this must power down the HDMI network??

As i can duplicate the same issue with my Sat Receiver by just removing the HDMI lead completely from rear of RX-V2700.

(so maybe a problem with firmware in the Sat Receiver, as it seems to be HDMI dependent)

Plug the HDMI lead back into the RX-V2700, and the SAt Receiver then works perfectly again (Video and Audio Transport streams work unbroken)
Edited by Aussie Grapeape - 7/7/13 at 2:49pm
post #5240 of 5350
You may have mentioned the "brand" of Satellite box" you are using.... I am using one that is provided by Comcast.net... ( In fact , I have 2 of them each driing a seperate big screeen Moreover, I am using HDMI #1,3 and 1.4 cables to move my signal around..... Sat box HDMI output to Yamaha HDMI In set to Input # 6 and... Aspect set to either 720 or 1040 bacsed on the source material.

The Yamaha audio chanells ( center, left and right, SUB only. Left & right surrounds shut off.

I use the Yammie for TV watching..... Also.... I use the Sat Box to select among the 50-75 channels of either of the 2 Sat birds for background music. Sounds pretty good , given the audio is only Dollby Digital......The Music channels and the Video channels are treated exactly the same by the Yamaha......

When I want to watch DVD, I have my Oppo Player connected via HDMI 1.3 to the Yamaha... Thats pretty much it....

Oh, I forgot to mention that many Sat/cable boxes shut down overnight to update the Firmwares......instructions...... and programming...Generally that takes about one hour overnight......Nothing should be overheating.... Your connections may need work...... Most Video providers are sadly lacking in Technical ability and just about never send out a real techie.......who knows something.

My Sat Dish feeds to receivers, one goes to home theater via the Yammie....... the 2nd just hooks up via hdmi cable directly to TV #2...... I hope some of what I've shared helps......Mark my words, that HARMONY ONE REMOTE WILL LOOM EVER LARGER AS YOUR PROBLEM CONTINUES !!!!!confused.gif
post #5241 of 5350
Sat Box is a Vu+ Ultimo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vu%2B

It doesn't shut down for firmware updates.
How ever, my next move is to update the firmware on the box.

What really interests me, is this "Click" in the back of the RX-V2700 20-25seconds AFTER i turn OFF my TV??
What is going on there? I dont think the RX-V2700 used to behave that way in the past.

Any relay clicks used to happen when the Amp was turned off or into stand-by, certainly not by other equipment, and not after a time delay.

Thanks for all your suggestions guys, it all helps
Edited by Aussie Grapeape - 7/7/13 at 4:53pm
post #5242 of 5350
one more suggestion...... have you tried taking the Yamaha entirely out of the sysem????? and directt the ouput of the cable box right into the the TV?....2 things.... the Yammie runs hot...... the TV no issues I'm aware of.....I will search the schematics firware and cable box
post #5243 of 5350
Great Idea, i will try that!!!

Yamaha should not be hot, it sits on top of a bench totally open to air on all sides, and it is currently freezing in my area.

(To be noted: The Yamaha did go into the shop for some work around 4 years ago, issue was a relay power OFF issue or Power ON, can't remember now)

Ok, just pulled the HDMI lead that was going from the Sat Box to Yamaha, and slotted in directly to the TV (on fly, while everything was ON)
Nothing was displayed on the TV, Blank screen.... not what i was expecting.

Swapped out that HDMI lead for another.... Now have pictures (have put suspect lead to one side)

Turned TV off... Sound stayed on for 20-25secs, Yamaha "Clicked".... sound gone!!!
(i do have RCA and Optical leads connected between the Sat Box and Yamaha.... hence why the sound continued)

But....!!!!!! Why did the Yamaha "Click" and shut the outputs down?? There is no HDMI lead between the two??

So i turn the TV off (HDMI direct from TV and Sat Box).... Sounds keeps running, 20-25seconds "Click" in Yamaha, sound off.

The only physical connection between the Yamaha and the source (Sat Box) is an Optical lead and RCA (Red/White/Yellow)

Thank you for the suggestion, we seem to be getting somewhere, but i think i now further lost smile.gif

Now... !!!!

Turn the Sony TV back on.... Bingo, Yamaha Amp "Clicks" sound back on!!!!


Just ried this test again, but this time i was Streaming the content of the Sat Box to my laptop (over the WIFI) to keep an eye on it.
Turned on the TV
Everything kept going for 20-25seconds
Picture and Sound stopped, Amp "Clicked"
All is quite, there is no output of the Sat Box in Video or Sound.....

Turn the TV back on
Bingo, all fires up again... Sound and pics and the Streaming started again


So from this am i learning that it might be the Sat Box at fault??
It gets a command from the TV to shut down, it then shuts its outputs down, and as a product of that, the Yamaha senses this and drops out (the relay "click")

As the sound does stop first, then 1 sec later, the relay clicks
Edited by Aussie Grapeape - 7/7/13 at 8:01pm
post #5244 of 5350
Just did a final TEST....

Sat Box connected Direct to Sony TV via HDMI

ALL OTHER CONNECTION FROM SAT BOX TO YAMAHA AMP TOTALY REMOVED (RCA and Optical removed)

Turned my Sony TV off (using its OEM remote)..... After 20-25seconds the Yamaha Amp "Clicked" and the Video and Audio output of the Sat Box stopped!

Now this i cant explain?!?!

There is no physical connection between the "TV / Sat Box" and the Yamaha.
post #5245 of 5350
PROBLEM SOLVED

Problam had Nothing to do with the Yamaha RX-V2700
Problem had Nothing to Sat Receiver (directly)
Problem was started at the Sony TV's 75ohm antenna lead "Loop" connection

Biggest Problem is the Owner.... ME!!!

Seems it has been a chain reaction of events that has provided me with my problem.

In brief, the Sat Receiver also has a Free To Air Terrestrial Tuner, that Tuner was feed by a 75ohm lead coming from the "Loop" connection of the Sony TV.
Now, as it turns out, that "Click" sound i was hearing, was coming from the TV all this time, not the Yamaha Amp (They are 2inchs apart).

So, string of events were;

Turn TV OFF
Sat Receiver keeps on running fine, Audio from Yamaha, happy days
After 20-25seconds, there is a relay "click" from the back of the TV, This relay seems to disconnect the RF "Loop" connection, hence the Sat Receiver was no longer getting a signal, hence the tuner fails, No Audio or Video.

It was just that all this happened at the same split second, so it was very confusing.

I would like to thank ginovino, as it was your isolation suggestions that made me stumble across the cause.

So... The Yamaha RX-V2700 is working fine
There is no CEC-HDMI codes being sent

Just an End User that needs to pay more attention.
post #5246 of 5350
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Originally Posted by curttard View Post

Also, the receiver shuts off at random points when I'm watching movies with the volume pretty cranked. When I turn it back on I get the "check sp wires" message. All wires are secure. Is this just an overload protection thing and I just have to turn it down? Is there any way to shake the house and not have it shut off?

I've eliminated heat and wire contact as possible causes.

I noticed my Canton Karat CM4 fronts say "4-8 ohms" for the impedance. Could this be the issue? That they dip to 4 ohms and when things get loud the receiver can't handle it? Should I set the receiver to 6ohm minimum in the advanced menu? The manual is a bit unclear. It says: "If you are to use 6 ohm speakers, set speaker impedance to "6 ohm minimum" before using this unit. 4ohm speakers can also be used as the front speakers" -- but it doesn't say which setting should be used for the 4ohms.

Also, could the speaker wire itself be the issue? I'm using the generic thin wires that come with HTIBs. Is it possible real speaker wire would solve the problem?
post #5247 of 5350
Bought a new Panasonic tc-p65vt60 and cannot get a signal to it using HDM from my Yamaha rx-v2700. HDMI works to my old TV and also to a newer computer monitor, but not to the new Panny mad.gif Anybody have any thoughts? I've tried updating firmware. TV says no signal detected.... Please help if you can.
post #5248 of 5350
If the Yamaha HDMI out is working to other displays, then maybe the problem is with the new TV. Do your video sources work when connected directly to the TV?
post #5249 of 5350
As a long shot you can try:
From your 2700 User Manual go to the ADVANCED SETUP section and turn OFF the Monitor Check function on your AVR. This probably has (at best ) only a 1/3 chance of resolving your HDMI issues, but it takes less than a minute to try this so it’s worth a shot.
post #5250 of 5350
As a long shot you can try:
From your 2700 User Manual go to the ADVANCED SETUP section and turn OFF the Monitor Check function on your AVR. This probably has (at best ) only a 1/3 chance of resolving your HDMI issues, but it takes less than a minute to try this so it’s worth a shot.
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