The Official Yamaha RX-V1700/RX-V2700 Thread - Page 23

Longtime lurker, Thank you to all early adopters for feedback.

I just became aware of the 2700 and the network connectivity. Currently have an RX-V2095 with 10 years flawless use. Time to upgrade allowing me to connect my digital music efficiently.

Possible choises are to buy a Sonos ZP80 and Remote, or find a receiver offering network connectivity.

Has anyone experience with a NAS and the RX-V2700?

Can you run a NAS without a computer running WMC 2.0 to serve up those lovely MP3s?

If You have a NAS how does it present itself in the Yamaha GUI?

With a NAS connected, how quickly can you navigate 5000 song library?

Thanks for the thoughts!
Swede.

I may be able to sell my HK635 for a good deal and I'm seriously considering either one of these two receivers.

HDM 1.2a switching goes a long ways for me, in terms of audio. I could hook my PS3 in it right now and enjoy all the new BD codecs over HDMI. (There's no multichannel analog capability on the PS3 and I doubt there ever will be.)

Yamaha is always a brand I've thought VERY highly of when it comes to audio. Besides the HDMI, I see a nice upgrade in some other areas as well.

Just kind of fooling with the idea...


Naturally, I have the typical "upgraditis fear" at play here: Am I going to be back at this point in another year or two?

I contacted Yamaha about the same question and they advised me that it can only with Windows Media Connect 2.0 or their server. I've tried it with Nero's Media Home and it can see my server but does display any of the files.

James,

Thanks, When you connected how does it present and navigate if you do use WMC 2.0?

Can you selected multiple directories of music?

Thanks,
Swede

You can view via artist, album, song and genre. If you've got alot of music, it does become a pain to navigate. I believe there is also an option to use playlists, so that might be your best bet if you have a big digital music library.

I just re-did my network here so my wireless connection to the 2700 isn't working at the moment so I can't check it right now.

Can someone please help? What volume should I set my sub to if I'm letting the YPAO on this receiver callibrate the setup?

You should check your sub-woofer manual first, see if there are set-up instructions/recommendations. What sub-woofer brand/model are you using? Also, what particular model Yamaha are you using (RX-V1700 or RX-V2700)?

The RX-V1600 manual suggests, first, setting the sub-woofer's adjustable cross-over (typically on the back of sub-woofer) to it's maximum frequency level and, second, adjusting front volume control to slightly-less than half-way (whatever that may be). This way the Yamaha (LFE) has jurisdiction over controlling cross-over frequency setting.

One thing, after initially running YPAO the first time, go into MANUAL SETUP, "Speaker Distance" mode, check the distance value for sub-woofer ("SWFR"), make sure it is the correct distance, if not enter the correct distance measurement value.

Just noticed [new] product bulletins have finally been created and posted on the "official" Yamaha, japan, web-site, for both RX-V1700 and RX-V2700 models.

This is always the best, and most accurate, source of product technical information, as it's directly from the source (manufacturer).

http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/prod...fo/rxv2700.pdf
http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/prod...fo/rxv1700.pdf

Re: 2700

Does the receiver upscale all inputs to 1080i no matter what the native resolution is of the device when being output to the tv through hdmi, or is upscaling (and amount) configurable by channel?

Will the receiver accept/pass through a 1080p signal?

HDMI 2 HDMI is pass through. You can up scale componet s-video and video to 720p or 1080i to HDMI. Also HDMI 2 HDMI can not be up scaled.

I have the RXV1700, and I really don't recall anything about subwoofer volume setup in the manual...hmm. The sub is HSU VTF2 MK2, and all they say about volume is essentially whatever pleases you. (I've turned off all the sub's processing to let the receiver do it, but volume still matters)

Also, if I was to change a setting in the receiver manually like you suggest, wouldn't that erase the YPAO settings?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...=745662&page=2

see post 39 written by me. I could have just as well written that here, since these two receivers are near the top of my consideration list. I also posted something a page ago in this thread.

All thoughts, input, devils advocacy, etc. appreciated.

I know, the RX-V1700 manual does [not] include that sub-woofer set-up suggestion (I have the manual). However, my RX-V1600 includes this information, so I've been using that as a set-up guide on my other systems.

Essentially, once you've got things working okay then you can adjust the overall sub volume as you desire per source- ie. each movie, or surround source material, vary's in "mix" levels. Actually I have'nt really changed my front volume much (it's still set near half-way). But you should experiment.


it only affects the parameter that you change. However, if you change the equalizer setting (pg 91), from PEQ (parametric equalizer) to GEQ (graphic equalizer), or EQ OFF, then you'll over-ride the main sound adjustments from AUTO SETUP function.

Moreover, you should run through all settings, especially for speaker-size. Typically you want all your speakers set for small when using your sub for LFE.

Just a quick note to all that are looking to play networked PC audio and video... Get yourself a modded Xbox version 1, running XBMC which you can play nearly any possible format of audio or video through an incredible GUI interface... (way better then the yamaha will ever be) not a cut but just reality--- all over component and optical audio !!! with the right cable at 480p 720p and 1080i beautifully !!!
I can even copy all my DVD's right to my Terabyte server and stream movies in 5.1 dolby digital !!!!
The latest XBMC (releases are put out weekly) also will navigate the internet for online content
movie releases, internet radio, you tube, weather, apple trailers HD--- the list goes on forever. I seriously enjoy this forum, and I see alot of people asking about streaming audio and video, just thought I'd share my thoughts!!!

http://www.tutorialtomb.com/upload/pictures/XBMC-screenshot-(pulp).jpg

also covered here http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=635294


I want to thank everyone for all the info they provided about the Yamaha 2700, looks like it will be my next purchase... Almost every question I have had about this reciever has been answered here.. !!

Thanks a bunch, WestCoast.

Alrighty...another question. Who knows what setting is best in the equalizer (Natural, Flat, etc.) if I want a relatively noticeable surround presence from my dipoles?
I have two Paradigm Studio 60 towers for fronts, CC590 centre, and four ADP590 dipoles as the surrounds. I was thinking the "Front" setting, but then again the dipoles are still the same speaker series and same quality...so...any ideas?

you can experiment with different settings- try NATURAL or FLAT first, watch a movie, see how things sound. Then try FRONT, watch the same material, see if you like it better or worse (also, as I mention previously, I always go into MANUAL set-up and re-check speaker settings as AUTO set-up will re-"tweak" things sometimes).

I've been experimenting lately with FLAT, and now using FRONT setting (since I primarily listen to 2-channel music thru front towers), I like it the most so far (for 5.1 DolbyDigital, ProLogic surround).

Those Paradigm Studio 60's are very nice speakers.

Well, it sounds great so far.

But isn't there supposed to be a THX Cinema option on the 1700? I can't find it...

One of the promising features of HDMI v1.3 will be auto lip sync!

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/articles...part_5_-_a.php

It won't be cheap, and we're probably looking at almost a year before HDMI 1.3 receivers are even available.

Just ordered a Rx-v2700 and need to get cables. Plan to use Composite from the DVD and from the Dish HD 622 DVR. The only Progressive upscaling/deinterlaced resolution available will be 720P, but from what I read on Yamaha's web site it appears that the 2700 can only upscale to 1080i and 720P through the HDMI output. Is this correct? If so, then I assume that this would preclude the use of Component cables from the 2700 to the dispaly, is this correct also?
thanks,
kadiddle

I will be waiting on a AV receiver purchase until after CES 2007 in a month. That show should give us a nice heads-up on what the next generation AVRs will provide.....and HDMI v1.3 (which incorporates auto lip sycn) should be high on the list. As well as Dolby True HD decoding, etc. Worth the wait for me especially with the variety of issues surrounding current AVRs. As well as further functionality of the video scaling that AVRs are starting to incorporate.

I just spent most of the day messing with my 2700 - first chance I've had since I got it - and no matter which Auto EQ I used it way over EQ'd the dipoles. (I've got the Studio ADP v3's.)

I haven't moved or changed any speakers since my Z9/SMS-1 combo so I know I had big peaks at around 41hz and at around 80hz, and with the room treatments and speakers I have I don't really need any EQ in the upper end. (From a combination of working with TrueRTA & the SMS-1)

All of the Auto EQ settings I tried yielded results that were far too bright for my tastes and I lost a lot of depth and detail that was there prior. To be honest I thought I was dealing with an inferior sounding product to my previous Z9. That turned out not to be the case at all.

The YPAO in this model is far more consistent and accurate than the one in the Z9 was. It nailed all the distances, including my IB subs which the previous version couldn't come close to getting right, and did an excellent job of level setting. I had to manually set the speaker sizes though because it wanted to set all my speakers as large.

In the Natural mode it did pick up and tame the two peaks I mentioned above. But nothing sounded "right". When I went into the PEQ to see what it had done I could see that it was boosting some of the upper frequencies on my mains and on the center with an added big boost around 350hz. The dipole surround channels looked like mogul fields - no idea what it was doing there. Knowing my room, I settled on "Natural" and then went into each speakers' PEQ and reset everything to flat above 300hz because it seemed to have nailed my needs below that. PRESTO there was the sound I was looking for. This is an exceptional sounding unit for the price and to top it off the HDMI switching works flawlessly without introducing any video noise.

The PEQ in this unit is an exceptional tool and I think it would pay huge dividends to measure your room/speaker FR with something like True RTA and manually adjust the Yamaha accordingly.

That's from the first post of the thread in my sig.

In that content, are either of these considered level 5's or potential level 6 receivers?

Anyone compare them to equivalent Pioneer Elites? Any comments?

Thanks!

yeah, you almost always have to go in MANUAL SETUP and reset speaker size accordingly. But I like how the menu is set up, once you get used to the logic it works very quick and clean.


I like that you can adjust the PEQ on the RX-V2700. This way you can let AUTO SETUP do it's "magic", then "tweak" whatever part of it you wish.

On previous models (RX-V1600 & RX-V2600) PEQ was permanently set, or "hard-coated", by AUTO SETUP. However, you could switch to GEQ (graphical EQ) and manually set all parameters yourself.


I figured you would like it. The sound quality is very good, video-processing is sweet!

Yep it's a keeper, at least until Anthem catches up in technology or I can afford a Lexicon.

yeah, MC-12 HD ranges in price from $9,999 to $13,999. I think I'd rather stay with an RX-V2700 (as pre-pro), combined with a good 5-channel (out-board) amp, and buy a new car with the extra $10,000.00.

OK, someone please tell me I'm not crazy. I just looked at the RXV1600 on Amazon and it says it has THX Select and has the THX logo on it. But the RXV1700 doesn't....? I waited a month for the 1700 to be released so I could have the better receiver and paid more for it, and no THX?

At the risk of sounding stupid, what is the correct method to determine if a speaker is to be set at large or small? One of the previous conversations mentioned setting all the speakers at small if you are using a sub woofer?

For those of you who own PS3 and RX-V2700, how does non-HD DVD looks on your 1080P TV when playing it with PS3? Under the following setup:

PS3 --> --> RX-V2700 --> --> HD 1080P TV (such as XBR2/3 or Sharp D62)

Q1. Does PS3 always output video signal at 1080p via HDMI, so V2700 will just pass the signal through to the TV?

Q2. If I am not using any other connections but hdmi from ps3 to v2700 and I play audio cd or mp3 from either ps3 hdd or usb hdd, will the audio signal be sent to v2700 via hdmi and v2700 will process the signal properly?

Thank you

Just because the unit doesn't have the THX certification doesn't mean it won't meet the criteria, it just means they aren't paying for the unit to be certified and to display the logo.

I went from a THX Ultra2 certified RX-Z9 to the uncertified RX-V2700 and as a pre-pro there's very little difference in SQ. Obviously there's a difference in the amplifier power and quality.