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post #271 of 548
9/21/06 at 6:19pm
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Originally Posted by DaBigKahuna View Post

Justin,

What were your settings set to for this to be enabled?

I just got off the phone with Maxent and they are telling me that this new model does not have the option to auto stretch sd material like the Vizio did. The prior model did.

Zoom on the 8300 goes too far in and is unwatchable.


just traded in my Vizio for the MX-5020HPM...out of the box the picture is not as good,HDTV and SD....however im not sure how the Vizio looked out of the box.ill run my burn-in dvd at low levels then adjust.

DaBigKahuna i ran my 8300 at 480i for SD with the Vizio and also with the Max...it seems to handle the same for both.
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post #272 of 548
9/21/06 at 8:15pm
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Originally Posted by DaBigKahuna View Post

Justin,

What were your settings set to for this to be enabled?

I just got off the phone with Maxent and they are telling me that this new model does not have the option to auto stretch sd material like the Vizio did. The prior model did.

Zoom on the 8300 goes too far in and is unwatchable.

Umm.... I can't really remember, but I think I enabled the 480i/Wide and the 480p/Wide options in the output of the 8300 box. Then I left the Maxent in "16:9" mode. I think I set the box to Upconvert 2 or something like that. Stretched 4:3 (as long as it was SD, 480i/480p)... But I couldn't stand it so I removed those settings... Give it a shot.

Justin
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post #273 of 548
9/21/06 at 8:16pm
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Originally Posted by mercury View Post

just traded in my Vizio for the MX-5020HPM...out of the box the picture is not as good,HDTV and SD....however im not sure how the Vizio looked out of the box.ill run my burn-in dvd at low levels then adjust.

DaBigKahuna i ran my 8300 at 480i for SD with the Vizio and also with the Max...it seems to handle the same for both.

If you get a chance, look back about 10-15 posts at my video and screenshots.... Do you see the flickering that I and others (but not all) have seen? (On your set, that is?)

Justin
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post #274 of 548
9/21/06 at 8:26pm
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Originally Posted by jawatkin View Post

Have a look at this video. You don't see anything like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq3KmQ9xs1s

Justin


Justin ~

thanks for posting this. This is exactly why I just ordered a Samsung HPS-5053 (only $250 more once I subtract tax from costco and use amazon free shipping).

You captured the annoying auto-contrast I experience. This is dramatically reduced when the brightness is not calibrated correctly.

You also captured the yellow/green rainbow I see, ANNOYING to say the least.

This set is great if you don't care about picture quality. And if you do, you get an outstanding picture with those 2 artifacts introduced.

Also, noone mentions that trying to view the set at 165+ degrees you can see that the glare screen is way too far away from the PDP, and you can see a double image, making it unwatchable at high offset angles.

I'm anxious to see the Sammy's 13bit vs 8bit on the colorbanding issues in the shadows.
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post #275 of 548
9/22/06 at 5:46am
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Originally Posted by premio View Post

You captured the annoying auto-contrast I experience. This is dramatically reduced when the brightness is not calibrated correctly.

Yep. Maybe that's why some still haven't seen it yet. For anyone who hasn't seen it, give these settings a try. Verified with DVE and Avia for my Oppo 971H over HDMI: Contrast: 78, Brightness: 54, Color: 40, Tint: -8, Sharpness: 1, Black Extension: Off, NR: Off.

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Also, noone mentions that trying to view the set at 165+ degrees you can see that the glare screen is way too far away from the PDP, and you can see a double image, making it unwatchable at high offset angles.

I'm anxious to see the Sammy's 13bit vs 8bit on the colorbanding issues in the shadows.

I just thought that's how plasmas were! Do manufacturers generally put the glass closer to the PDP?? When does your Samsung come? Please keep me updated on the difference!

Justin
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post #276 of 548
9/22/06 at 8:46am
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can anyone confirm that the 3 picture modes,vivid,standard and cinema suck?I've been running my burn-in dvd for 14+ Hrs now and thought id look at some HDTV programing, it wasn`t good.

my Vizio looked pretty good with the pre-program modes.


Tweaking with VE will help the picture i hope.
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post #277 of 548
9/22/06 at 8:52am
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Originally Posted by mercury View Post

(HDMI)
can anyone confirm that the 3 picture modes,vivid,standard and cinema suck?I've been running my burn-in dvd for 14+ Hrs now and thought id look at some HDTV programing, it wasn`t good.

my Vizio looked pretty good with the pre-program modes.


Tweaking with VE will help the picture i hope.


Yep, they all suck. Look to my previous post for settings I got through DVE in the "User" Menu.

Justin
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post #278 of 548
9/22/06 at 10:25am
Last night I was thinking...if I continue to read about and make my own pro's and con's about 50" plasma sets I'll never be satisfied.

Then my wife and I sat down to watch a movie for the second time on this set. The movie was called Animal and had a lot of low light scenes. This set handled the dark scenes horribly via HDMI. Man am I dissapointed.

I did not do any calibration...but should the average consumer have to?

I have to say it...this sets...ugh..ugh..is....ugh..ugh...going...ugh...ugh...back - there I said it.

With how problematic these sets can be I can't get myself to purchase anywhere else but Costco. I saw they have the Panny 50" on discount for $200 off as of yesterday. The bezel being dark gray does nothing for me so thats a no go. I'm thinking on giving the Vizio 46 LCD a shot when it gets released.
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post #279 of 548
9/22/06 at 10:36am
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Originally Posted by DaBigKahuna View Post

Last night I was thinking...if I continue to read about and make my own pro's and con's about 50" plasma sets I'll never be satisfied.

Then my wife and I sat down to watch a movie for the second time on this set. The movie was called Animal and had a lot of low light scenes. This set handled the dark scenes horribly via HDMI. Man am I dissapointed.

I did not do any calibration...but should the average consumer have to?

I have to say it...this sets...ugh..ugh..is....ugh..ugh...going...ugh...ugh...back - there I said it.

With how problematic these sets can be I can't get myself to purchase anywhere else but Costco. I saw they have the Panny 50" on discount for $200 off as of yesterday. The bezel being dark gray does nothing for me so thats a no go. I'm thinking on giving the Vizio 46 LCD a shot when it gets released.


It sounds like some simple set-ups with a dvd program might help.

at least i hope so-

DaBigKahuna,what mode did you use to watch your movie?
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post #280 of 548
9/22/06 at 10:39am
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Originally Posted by jawatkin View Post

Yep, they all suck. Look to my previous post for settings I got through DVE in the "User" Menu.

Justin

Verified with DVE and Avia for my Oppo 971H over HDMI: Contrast: 78, Brightness: 54, Color: 40, Tint: -8, Sharpness: 1, Black Extension: Off, NR: Off.
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post #281 of 548
9/22/06 at 10:51am
mercury,

One of the pre-sets = User I believe.

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Originally Posted by mercury View Post

It sounds like some simple set-ups with a dvd program might help.

at least i hope so-

DaBigKahuna,what mode did you use to watch your movie?
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post #282 of 548
9/22/06 at 2:07pm
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Originally Posted by jawatkin View Post

Yep. Maybe that's why some still haven't seen it yet. For anyone who hasn't seen it, give these settings a try. Verified with DVE and Avia for my Oppo 971H over HDMI: Contrast: 78, Brightness: 54, Color: 40, Tint: -8, Sharpness: 1, Black Extension: Off, NR: Off.



I just thought that's how plasmas were! Do manufacturers generally put the glass closer to the PDP?? When does your Samsung come? Please keep me updated on the difference!

Justin

My only experience is with a 42" Samsung. The cover sits 1/16" away from the PDP instead of what looks like 1/2" on the Maxent. There is ZERO double image on the Samsung. I think this is why Maxent specs do not say 175degree viewing.
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post #283 of 548
9/22/06 at 2:56pm
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Originally Posted by DaBigKahuna View Post

With how problematic these sets can be I can't get myself to purchase anywhere else but Costco. I saw they have the Panny 50" on discount for $200 off as of yesterday. The bezel being dark gray does nothing for me so thats a no go. I'm thinking on giving the Vizio 46 LCD a shot when it gets released.

Hmm.. I didn't see the discount on the Panny @ my Costco.. Anyways, what do you mean the bezel being dark gray does nothing for you? You don't like the bezel, so you won't consider the set?

Justin
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post #284 of 548
9/23/06 at 5:27am
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Originally Posted by brianw11797 View Post

gateway code worked for me "1755"


1755 won't work!


Anyone have a SA 8300HD box from TWC and have gotten the universal remote to work? I went through the search function to try and get the universal remote to control at least the power to the TV, but no luck.
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post #285 of 548
9/24/06 at 2:04pm
The activity in this thread is decreasing each day. Quick question: Is anyone actually satisfied with this set? I can't recall how many people have actually decided to keep it. Mine's going back as soon as I make a decision on another set. 100%.

Justin
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post #286 of 548
9/24/06 at 2:08pm
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Originally Posted by jawatkin View Post

The activity in this thread is decreasing each day. Quick question: Is anyone actually satisfied with this set? I can't recall how many people have actually decided to keep it. Mine's going back as soon as I make a decision on another set. 100%.

Justin

Im still breaking mine in but i must say the picture in HDTV is better then the Vizio.SD goes to Vizio...


will i keep it.

not sure.
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post #287 of 548
9/24/06 at 2:29pm
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Originally Posted by mercury View Post

Im still breaking mine in but i must say the picture in HDTV is better then the Vizio.SD goes to Vizio...


will i keep it.

not sure.

Also, keep in mind that with the Panasonic price drops, getting it from an authorized panasonic dealer, with no tax makes the Maxent and Panasonic similarly price (minus the C* return policy, of course). I thought the Maxent def had a better HD pic, but there are too many shortcomings, at least with my set (flickering and the yellow-green trails with high contrast motion).

Justin
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post #288 of 548
9/24/06 at 3:54pm
Hi! after replacing my vizio for the maxent i'm satified. my oppo work with no problem, the pqhd is excellent.my harmony 659 works ok. My tv is connected via a pace 550 stb and a belking pf60 line conditioner which have inproved the pq at least 20%. I notice on the avs forum that everyone have a least some problems with their plasma tv. so good luck in finding that perfect tv.I"ll enjoy my tv until something better come along rhen this baby go up in my bedroom. yeah., it's a keeper.
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post #289 of 548
9/24/06 at 4:01pm
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Hi! after replacing my vizio for the maxent i'm satified. my oppo work with no problem, the pqhd is excellent.my harmony 659 works ok. My tv is connected via a pace 550 stb and a belking pf60 line conditioner which have inproved the pq at least 20%. I notice on the avs forum that everyone have a least some problems with their plasma tv. so good luck in finding that perfect tv.I"ll enjoy my tv until something better come along rhen this baby go up in my bedroom. yeah., it's a keeper.

Great, I'm glad that you are satisfied, but I'm not looking for that "perfect tv", just looking for one that has (even somewhat) stable black levels and better color rendition. This bouncing around and floating blacks is out of control and the people @ Maxent said there is no way to disable it, it is just the way the TV processes contrast/brightness changes. They also said there is no way to adjust color temp via presets, only through the service menu and I'm too scared to play with that.

No matter what, there are certainly going to be shortcomings, as there are no perfect sets, I just feel that I can do (much) better for slightly more $$ (Panasonic 50px60u, Samsung 5053, Panasonic 50PH9UK).

Justin
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post #290 of 548
9/25/06 at 11:28am
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Originally Posted by jawatkin View Post

The activity in this thread is decreasing each day. Quick question: Is anyone actually satisfied with this set? I can't recall how many people have actually decided to keep it. Mine's going back as soon as I make a decision on another set. 100%.

Justin

I'm happy with it...for now. No noticable problems yet.
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post #291 of 548
9/25/06 at 11:41am
((((Originally Posted by jawatkin
The activity in this thread is decreasing each day. Quick question: Is anyone actually satisfied with this set? I can't recall how many people have actually decided to keep it. Mine's going back as soon as I make a decision on another set. 100%.

Justin))))


maybe because Maxent is not in the thread title...
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post #292 of 548
9/25/06 at 11:42am
I still can't find the remote code for this Monitor

I wanna use my DVR 8300 remote.
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post #293 of 548
9/25/06 at 12:28pm
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maybe because Maxent is not in the thread title...

Wow, I never even realized this! LOL.

Justin
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post #294 of 548
9/25/06 at 9:30pm
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Originally Posted by mercury View Post

1755 won't work!


Anyone have a SA 8300HD box from TWC and have gotten the universal remote to work? I went through the search function to try and get the universal remote to control at least the power to the TV, but no luck.

Just so it's searchable: DirecTV HR20 RC23 Maxent code 11755

I got this off of http://www.ezremote.com/setupcodehel...tSelection.php

Who makes the scientific Atlant? Try their website.
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post #295 of 548
9/27/06 at 8:18am
hello all,

i'm a satisfied owner of a 50X3, which is last year's model. this has IMAGE SHIFT, but doesn't tout that as a GREAT feature for BURN-IN protection. does your 5020HPM state very confidently that BURN-IN protection is any better in this model?

i gotta say...the features (contrast ratio, burn-in protection, multiple inputs, etc...) are very attractive compared to last year's. i bought mine just about 2 months ago, and now i'm considering exchanging it. the only thing stopping me is the new design SUCKS and of course the hassle of it all.

atb!

wes
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post #296 of 548
9/27/06 at 8:46am
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Originally Posted by aaplzen View Post

hello all,

i'm a satisfied owner of a 50X3, which is last year's model. this has IMAGE SHIFT, but doesn't tout that as a GREAT feature for BURN-IN protection. does your 5020HPM state very confidently that BURN-IN protection is any better in this model?

i gotta say...the features (contrast ratio, burn-in protection, multiple inputs, etc...) are very attractive compared to last year's. i bought mine just about 2 months ago, and now i'm considering exchanging it. the only thing stopping me is the new design SUCKS and of course the hassle of it all.

atb!

wes

I can't understand people's fascination with "image shift" and the white screen modes.... The image shift really only shifts around by a pixel or two, so there's still going to be uneven wear on most of the pixels if you aren't careful. The white screen/break in modes you can duplicate with a simple free DVD from these forums....

Be careful with this set, the "better contrast ratio" (at least on my set) seems to be achieved with flickering blacks at different APLs.

Justin
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post #297 of 548
9/27/06 at 9:39am
what's the free WHITE SCREEN / BREAK IN dvd? got a link?

tia
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post #298 of 548
9/27/06 at 9:46am
I have been quite happy with this set. Other than the issue with the 2nd(DVI) HDMI or the poor built in speakers...everything seemed fine. That was until this past Sunday when the TV started intermittantly flickering to a full red tint to whole picture. This only happed once every couple hours for a couple seconds at a time. Then during "Brotherhood" it froze on the red screen...still see pic but everything red! Finally I turned off the set after a minute or 2 and turned it back on. Everything looked good for then. Next day and every day since I still get the occasional red flicker.

This panel has an amazing picture, but I dont believe the build quality is on par with the better "name" sets. I will return mine soon, although not sure what I will get.

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post #299 of 548
9/27/06 at 9:46am
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what's the free WHITE SCREEN / BREAK IN dvd? got a link?

tia

Try the search function.. "break in dvd"... comes right up:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...t=break+in+dvd

Justin
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post #300 of 548
9/27/06 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by mrpickem View Post

I have been quite happy with this set. Other than the issue with the 2nd(DVI) HDMI or the poor built in speakers...everything seemed fine. That was until this past Sunday when the TV started intermittantly flickering to a full red tint to whole picture. This only happed once every couple hours for a couple seconds at a time. Then during "Brotherhood" it froze on the red screen...still see pic but everything red! Finally I turned off the set after a minute or 2 and turned it back on. Everything looked good for then. Next day and every day since I still get the occasional red flicker.

This panel has an amazing picture, but I dont believe the build quality is on par with the better "name" sets. I will return mine soon, although not sure what I will get.


My set's going back, too, but for other issues. Just curious, are you using component cables? It could be that one is loose and causing the intermittent red picture/flickering... Just want to help you out if that's all that's wrong with it, it might be simple to fix!

Justin
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