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post #31 of 716
Those Velodynes are only 8.5" tall but weigh 7lbs, you know they're well built.
post #32 of 716
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Yeah, they are really solid. The center channel is twice as heavy as the satellites.

Everything about these speakers says quality. I am excited about them and look forward to listening more.
post #33 of 716
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Originally Posted by docprego View Post

Augustahorn: Which color did you order? I noticed they come in gray or white but they only have the additional speakers listed in white to make a 7.1 setup. This would be OK with me except that I do not like the fact that they kept the center channel gray in this otherwise all white system. Of course the logic is that it will be on top of a gray TV set so they did not want a white center channel sticking out like a sore thumb on top of your set. Unfortunately this does not apply to those of using these in a front projections setup.

I wonder if they offer the additional pair of speakers in gray?

I ordered white speakers, to match my white walls. The gray center speaker works OK for me, since it will be next to my grayish/black HDTV.
post #34 of 716
After two days of calling, I finally was able to talk to someone about my order I placed a week ago. It shipped yesterday and is scheduled to be delivered next wednesday. Based on the good reviews I am hearing I can't wait to get them!
post #35 of 716
Just got mine and I am very happy with the sound, much better than HTIB speakers. Now I just need a decent sub to go with. Also need some stands for the surround speakers (mine are mounted way too high on the wall right now.

Quick question on these...should I keep these labled as "small" for all five speakers?

Also, just my opinion but I think I like mine crossed over at 100 better than 120. Can't really explain why but they just sound a little better (could be my imagination!).
post #36 of 716
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I cross mine over at 100 and keep all of them set to small. That definitely sounds better than any of them at large.

I have a 12 inch JBL powered sub though.
post #37 of 716
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Originally Posted by kmarshal View Post

Just got mine and I am very happy with the sound, much better than HTIB speakers. Now I just need a decent sub to go with. Also need some stands for the surround speakers (mine are mounted way too high on the wall right now.

Quick question on these...should I keep these labled as "small" for all five speakers?

Also, just my opinion but I think I like mine crossed over at 100 better than 120. Can't really explain why but they just sound a little better (could be my imagination!).

set them all to small. 100 or 120 for crossover is fine, whichever sounds best to you. Make sure you're crossover on the sub is disabled or turned all the way up (same thing). You don't want 2 crossovers working against each other, just use the one in the receiver.
post #38 of 716
I did want to add that unlike some of the previous posts, I have not had any issue with having to turn the receiver "way up" to hear through the speakers. I have a new Onkyo 574. Just thought I'd add that so no one is scared off, it really must vary from receiver to receiver.
post #39 of 716
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I don't know if 30 is "way up," but I have to turn it up to about 30 to hear much during movies. Then, it seems like 50 is really loud and 60 is too loud. It goes up to like 76 or something.

I did the Pixar THX thing from the Terminator 2 Extreme Edition on like 60 and it nearly took my room down.
post #40 of 716
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Originally Posted by TransAmLS1 View Post

I don't know if 30 is "way up," but I have to turn it up to about 30 to hear much during movies. Then, it seems like 50 is really loud and 60 is too loud. It goes up to like 76 or something.

I did the Pixar THX thing from the Terminator 2 Extreme Edition on like 60 and it nearly took my room down.

And by the way, it was awesome.
post #41 of 716
Bargains like these make me wish I was putting a system together. One of my favorite kits was an all-NHT Super system. These are quite similar. Very clean, very small and very good.
post #42 of 716
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I cross mine over at 100 and keep all of them set to small. That definitely sounds better than any of them at large.

I have a 12 inch JBL powered sub though.

I also have mine set to small but crossed at 120 with an Acoustech H-100 sub. I never tried them crossed at 100 because Velodyne recommended that they be crossed at 120. I'll have to give 100 a try just to satisfy my curiosity.
post #43 of 716
It appears that the cabinet style has been cheapened since the Hometheaterhifi review came out. I wonder if these are a batch made up just to rake in some extra cash for Velodyne. Notice in the review that the front baffle is rounded over and in the current pics on Velodyne's, no roundover. Do the current models have the gold plated five way binding post and wall hanger? Would someone post pics of their speakers? I would like to get some of these if they are the real deal. Sounds too good to be true.
post #44 of 716
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Originally Posted by Patrick McGuire View Post

It appears that the cabinet style has been cheapened since the Hometheaterhifi review came out. I wonder if these are a batch made up just to rake in some extra cash for Velodyne. Notice in the review that the front baffle is rounded over and in the current pics on Velodyne's, no roundover. Do the current models have the gold plated five way binding post and wall hanger? Would someone post pics of their speakers? I would like to get some of these if they are the real deal. Sounds too good to be true.

I have these speakers an while you're right that the cabinet has changed, I doubt the internals have changed at all...

They do indeed have the binding posts and wall hanger. They also sound good too.

I don't think they can give them the same name and ratings if they changed to internals. That would not be good business practice. Plus, electronics are marked up like crazy. You can bet that even selling them at $199 made them money...

They did call it a "closeout" offer, so they are admitting they have significantly reduced the price. I doubt very seriously that they are anything less than what Velodyne states or what was reviewed on the hometheaterhifi site.
post #45 of 716
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Also, I'll add that the speakers are indeed very heavy and I could turn them up as loud as my receiver would let me with no distortion. That's something I couldn't come close to doing with the stock Onkyos.
post #46 of 716
Hi guys... I am strongly considering this set as well. Can someone who has it tell me if the center channel has any mounting slots (either threaded or keyhole)?

Many thanks--I missed out on the Athena Point 5s and the Advent Heritage sets, but these look just as good if not better.
post #47 of 716
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Hi guys... I am strongly considering this set as well. Can someone who has it tell me if the center channel has any mounting slots (either threaded or keyhole)?

Many thanks--I missed out on the Athena Point 5s and the Advent Heritage sets, but these look just as good if not better.

The center has no mounts. It just has the binding posts. All others have mounting slots.

I built a sweet shelf above my TV for the center channel and it works great. I only had dry wall to work with, (no studs in that area) and I used these plastic wall mounts that supposedly hold 50 pounds each. I used 4 of them just to be safe. The center weighs 14 pounds and my shelf is so sturdy that I could probably sit on it.

This is how I did it.

I took my 4 pieces of mounting hardware from Home Depot and secured those to the wall. They are basically big plastic screws that drive themselves into the sheetrock until they are flush against the wall. Then you drive a screw into the plastic mounts when you are ready to hang the supports. I took those shelf supports that have 2 mounting holes in each of them and secured them by driving 4 screws into the mounting holes on each support. Then, I put a black piece of wood over the 2 shelf supports and, voila--a new sturdy shelf using no studs.
post #48 of 716
Thanks much, TransAmLS1. I'll probably attempt something similar.

I do wonder why many (most?) center channels are made without mounting slots in them--especially in the age where flat panels and projectors are only getting more popular.

I know there are purists who don't believe in mounting any speaker, but if you're going to make the satellites mountable why not the CC also?
post #49 of 716
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Originally Posted by luv2chill View Post

Thanks much, TransAmLS1. I'll probably attempt something similar.

I do wonder why many (most?) center channels are made without mounting slots in them--especially in the age where flat panels and projectors are only getting more popular.

I know there are purists who don't believe in mounting any speaker, but if you're going to make the satellites mountable why not the CC also?

I suppose it's because the center is heavior and wider than the wall mountable speakers they come with. Still, this 14 pounder would be EASILY mountable if it had 2 keyhole mounts. I have the surrounds hanging on the wall with a drywall mount and screw. They are not going anywhere.

My shelf is so sturdy that it could hold almost any center channel. It effortlessly holds this channel, but I went a little overboard with strength. I just didn't want any disasters with the speaker falling on the precious DLP.
post #50 of 716
I finally finished installing all of my new components yesterday...speakers, receiver, DVD/VCR player, subwoofer, and connecting everything to my 50" plasma HDTV and cable box. My new Velodyne speakers sound GREAT! Many thanks to several of you who helped me decide which components to purchase.

I mounted my four side and rear speakers on floor stands. I'm not entirely happy with this set-up, and my wife is probably less so. But with all the money I've spent lately I'm not changing anything for the foreseeable future.
post #51 of 716
I've said it before elsewhere...everyone looking at this closeout deal should consider the Deco package for $499. The sub that comes with it is the equivalent of the MiniVee. An 8" audiophile class sub that retails for $800. For a small footprint sub you can't do better. You don't have a dedicated center, but have you checked out the resale value on Velodyne subs. 10 year old mid level Velo subs sell from $400 up.
post #52 of 716
Curious - what receivers and subwoofer have you guys paired with your Velodyne front row CHT? I just bought the front row and went in for 2 more Velodyne CHT satellites to complete the 7.1.

The two subwoofers I'm looking at are the BIC Acoustech H-100 and the velodyne VX-10. Leaning toward the H100 b/c of rave reviews, but it's a little out of my price range so if the VX-10 would do, I might get that instead.

As for receivers, I'm leaning toward the Panny SA-XR57. I also considered the onkyo 504. Have any of you tried these combos with the CHT front row?
post #53 of 716
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Originally Posted by sniogi View Post

Curious - what receivers and subwoofer have you guys paired with your Velodyne front row CHT? I just bought the front row and went in for 2 more Velodyne CHT satellites to complete the 7.1.

The two subwoofers I'm looking at are the BIC Acoustech H-100 and the velodyne VX-10. Leaning toward the H100 b/c of rave reviews, but it's a little out of my price range so if the VX-10 would do, I might get that instead.

As for receivers, I'm leaning toward the Panny SA-XR57. I also considered the onkyo 504. Have any of you tried these combos with the CHT front row?

I have the H-100 and it's a great sub. I was also looking at the VX-10 and I'm glad that I bought the H-100. I have them both paired with a Harman Kardon receiver. I believe the Panny to be a little bright for my taste.
post #54 of 716
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Originally Posted by sniogi View Post

Curious - what receivers and subwoofer have you guys paired with your Velodyne front row CHT? I just bought the front row and went in for 2 more Velodyne CHT satellites to complete the 7.1.

The two subwoofers I'm looking at are the BIC Acoustech H-100 and the velodyne VX-10. Leaning toward the H100 b/c of rave reviews, but it's a little out of my price range so if the VX-10 would do, I might get that instead.

As for receivers, I'm leaning toward the Panny SA-XR57. I also considered the onkyo 504. Have any of you tried these combos with the CHT front row?

I bought an Onkyo 503 receiver, and SVS 10" sub. No complaints!
post #55 of 716
How would the Velodyne CHT front row setup compare with Infinity primus 160s with 150s as surround and C25 center channel?
post #56 of 716
The primus are bigger speakers and should play louder and deeper. You're talking 6.5" and 5.25" woofers in the Primus vs 4" in the CHT.

But the reviews on the CHT say they go very loud w/o distortion.

The Velos will take up less space.
post #57 of 716
Got my CHT's today. Set them on top of my Klipsch RF3s and put the center on top of my Klipsch center. Set the L/R and center to small, at a preset cut at 90Hz. I'm using a Yamaha RXV1200(80 WattsRMS). Also using a Velodyne 10" sub.

Played Grusin Bros "Sticks and Stones" and Dire Straights "On Every Street".
These little speakers sounded good and played without any perceptible distortion up to what I would guess was about 75% power until the built in overload kicked in. At that point I was about to pack them up and ship them back. After reducing the volume for a while and slowly raising it, I was able to get them to play quite loud without overloading. I guess the overload is sensitive at first.

The clarity is quite good and the soundstage is wide but not unrealistically so. When driven hard at full range the woofers will over-extend and distort. Set to small, crossed at 90Hz and driven to moderately high levels no bass distortion was perceptible.

Next I tested them for what they were designed for, home theater. Return of the Jedi seemed like a good bet. At the beginning of the movie when the music starts I had to get up and check the center to see if it was working as the sound was totally seemless across the front. In the quieter forest parts I could point at the sounds of the birds in the surrounding trees. The sounds were suspended above and outward of the speakers unlike what I would get from my Klipschs. The dialogue was clear with no boominess. The sub filled in the needed bass for the most part but speakers with more low end do provide a "fuller" sound with more impact.

I actually prefer these CHTs to my Klipsch RF3s and RC3 center for movies. My Klipschs are too directional with a limited soundstage. Yes the bass and the impact is better with the big Klipschs, but for home theater the Velodynes superior imaging makes for a more immersive experience.

There are much better speakers out there for much more money. Don't get these thinking they are geat speakers. They are good little speakers at a good price.
post #58 of 716
I wonder if you had a receiver with an adjustable crossover if it would make any difference? Maybe crossed at 100hz or 120hz and then driving them even louder?
post #59 of 716
Yes, that would be the way to go but, alas, I have a preset cross at 90Hz for the small setting. Might try using the speaker level inputs on the sub and use its crossover.
post #60 of 716
Has anyone compare the Deco package with Orbs? I currently have the Orb Mod2 in my living room and is considering another system for my bedroom. The $499 price tag is very attractive. Just wondering how the Velodyne stacks up with the Orb?
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