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post #61 of 716
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Originally Posted by Patrick McGuire View Post

There are much better speakers out there for much more money. Don't get these thinking they are geat speakers. They are good little speakers at a good price.

I guess the question is whether they are the best speakers for the price they are selling at ($199 - no tax, free shipping)... I have no doubt that $1000 speakers are going to sound better. I've purchased 2 more CHT satellite speakers to complete the 7.1... I'm eager to see what will happen once I add the H-100 and a new A/V receiver (still deciding on that one - narrowed it down between xr57 and VSX-816. I'll probably start with the xr57 and if it is really too bright, I'll exchange for the VSX-816).

Do you think it is the best for the price?
post #62 of 716
Anybody know what's the return policy for these clearance speakers?
post #63 of 716
hi!..thinking of velodyne front row + dayton 10" sub + Onkyo 7.1 receiver 503 or 504 (to add the other 2 satellites from velodyne)....would this be way better than Micra 6+ the Onkyo receiver?? or not much difference??....will use the system for home theater DVDs....

cost difference..OPTION 1: about $560
OPTION 2 : about $520

Thanx,
J
post #64 of 716
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Originally Posted by jackass124 View Post

hi!..thinking of velodyne front row + dayton 10" sub + Onkyo 7.1 receiver 503 or 504 (to add the other 2 satellites from velodyne)....would this be way better than Micra 6+ the Onkyo receiver?? or not much difference??....will use the system for home theater DVDs....

cost difference..OPTION 1: about $560
OPTION 2 : about $520

Thanx,
J

If it's a small room say around 200 sf or less option 2 (micras + receiver) would be the way to go. The Micras are excellent speakers for the size as far as sq and at this price point they can't be touched, but they are smaller satellite speakers. The sub is also great quality for it's size but smaller than other option. For < 200 sf rooms this system shines for the price, amazing s.q., can't be beat, also comes with wall monting hardware if that's an issue would save a few $$ if needed.

If it's a larger room option 1 (vedolynes + sub + receiver). However I would look past the Dayton 10" or 12". I've tried them and was very disappointed especally if the system will be used for any music at all. For 100% HT the Dayton would probably be ok. Lots of output but boomy and 1 noted. The Athena ASP-4000 or the Bic H-100 would be much better options for a few more $$. total would be around $600, well worth the $40 difference.
post #65 of 716
it'd be a rec. room which is divided into 2 where the carpeted half is where the H27 projector is...the carpeted half is about 18*12...so it's quite a large room...like many others, I started out thinking about the HTIB option...then graduated to the Micra 6 option, but then read that having a better sub would make a lot of difference...and i thought the Dayton would give a way more punchy bass than the one included with the Micra 6....so, i'm on about a $500 or a little more budget....if i can find a good price on the Athena sub, i may go for it....but u think it will be a more precise focused bass sound with the Athena??...and if i just want sheer house-shaking for those action movies like Saving Private Ryanm, go for one of the Daytons?? (also, is there much difference between the 10 and the 12?)....I know my ears are more sensitive to stuff than others, being a jazz pianist!

Thanx for the advice!
post #66 of 716
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Originally Posted by jackass124 View Post

it'd be a rec. room which is divided into 2 where the carpeted half is where the H27 projector is...the carpeted half is about 18*12...so it's quite a large room...like many others, I started out thinking about the HTIB option...then graduated to the Micra 6 option, but then read that having a better sub would make a lot of difference...and i thought the Dayton would give a way more punchy bass than the one included with the Micra 6....so, i'm on about a $500 or a little more budget....if i can find a good price on the Athena sub, i may go for it....but u think it will be a more precise focused bass sound with the Athena??...and if i just want sheer house-shaking for those action movies like Saving Private Ryanm, go for one of the Daytons?? (also, is there much difference between the 10 and the 12?)....I know my ears are more sensitive to stuff than others, being a jazz pianist!

Thanx for the advice!

Given what you just said, "I know my ears are more sensitive to stuff than others, being a jazz pianist".

Go for the Athena or Bic. The dayton 10" in comparison to the athena isn't going to have anymore output than the Athena 10". You should be able to get the Athena 10" for < $200 shipped from the link below.

Same goes for the Dayton 12" vs the Bic 12" from Ebays authorized seller "acousticsounddesign" for around $200 using the make an offer option plus shipping.

Both would be much better options than the Dayton. I compaired the Athena 10" and the Dayton 12" side by side in several different placement options setting, etc, I wanted to like the Dayton so much because I didn't want to pay for return shipping on the monster but it didn't happen. It's a definate upgrade to HTIB subs in total ouput (yeah it will shake the house) with more output due to it's bigger driver, heavier bigger design, but has the same characteristics of a htib sub, boomy and one noted. The Athena which I personally have 2 of are much more musical, tighter more accurate base.

I know the dayton is attractivly priced but when you consider return shipping, they are the same price.

I haven't personally evaluated the bic but it gets the same feedback from owners as being more musical, more precise than the dayton and is 12" (or any other sub in this price range for that matter) in a bigger heavier enclosure than the athena so it should give you more ouput, in that sized room I'd go with the bic. Below is a link to the best place I know to get the athena if you want to check it out and you can find the bic from the seller I mentioned above.

http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/pr...00%20Subwoofer
post #67 of 716
hey!..I found a guy privately selling the p6000 Athena sub for $300 and 4 B2's and 1 as-C1 for $400...total $700.... think that's a good buy?...a LOT better sounding than my $199 Velodynes and the Athena p4000 or Bic??..i wanna go over and hear them...wanna make sure i don't get any blown speakers or something..never bought speakers used..
post #68 of 716
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Originally Posted by jackass124 View Post

hey!..I found a guy privately selling the p6000 Athena sub for $300 and 4 B2's and 1 as-C1 for $400...total $700.... think that's a good buy?...a LOT better sounding than my $199 Velodynes and the Athena p4000 or Bic??..i wanna go over and hear them...wanna make sure i don't get any blown speakers or something..never bought speakers used..

The B2s will go lower for sure, but only you can decide if they sound better.
post #69 of 716
u mean the guy's asking price is kinda high for the B2s+C1?
post #70 of 716
btw, I'm upgrading from a Scott amplifier, connected to Craig car speakers and a Logitech computer speaker set plugged into the headphones jack of the amp (logitech has 2 satellites and a little sub)...just to give u an idea of the garbage i've gotten used to!
post #71 of 716
Well you can buy the same sub new for the same price at audio advisor, but that is not what I meant.

I honestly don't know if the Athenas will sond better to your ears in your room than the Velodynes.
post #72 of 716
i see....he's also throwing in stands too..
post #73 of 716
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Originally Posted by jackass124 View Post

hey!..I found a guy privately selling the p6000 Athena sub for $300 and 4 B2's and 1 as-C1 for $400...total $700.... think that's a good buy?...a LOT better sounding than my $199 Velodynes and the Athena p4000 or Bic??..i wanna go over and hear them...wanna make sure i don't get any blown speakers or something..never bought speakers used..

That's from the original audition B series, which has been replaced by the B2.2s, C1.2 etc. Except for the cabinents being thicker in the original B series they are the same speaker. In fact most think the original B series is better because of the thicker cabinents, 3/4" vs 1/2 in in the .2s. This also makes them heavier which is a plus.

4, B2s and a C1 would run around $640 new. If they are in great shape that's a good buy especially with stands, $50 - $100 probably making the total new closer to $740. The Vedolynes would not touch them, nor should the be espected to the B2s and C1 are alot bigger.

For the 6000 sub it's available new anywhere from $300 - $350 but then you pay for shipping. So you'd basically be saving shipping charges there. If it's in good shape I'd cosider it, I'd first see if he would part with the speakers for $400 and then buy the Bic H-100 new and save $100 or the 6000 new for the same price.

If he won't part with them seperatly and the sub is in good shape, go for it, it's a good deal. The sub is a definate upgrade over the 4000 and probably the same performance of the Bic, it just doesn't get as much attention because of the higher price compaired to the bic when both are new.
post #74 of 716
I'm thinking about a new 5.1 setup for my bedroom. This close-out deal seems too good to pass up. Can owners of the CHT front row tell me how do these stack up against other sat similar in size? I'll be using these 60/40 music/movie. And will probably getting a HSU STF-1 for these. Thanks!
post #75 of 716
So I ordered these speakers a week ago from Velodyne. I know there is usually a delay before they start shipping, but these guys haven't even billed me for the speakers, and it has been a week. I fired an e-mail off to their customer service department to see what the hold up was, but no response.

Has anyone had any similar issues when purchasing from these guys? The rest of my equipment is already here. I'm just waiting on these speakers.
post #76 of 716
Give Velo a call, they're in California and open until 4:30 PST.

Want to Call Us? Headquarters: 408-465-2800
Literature Requests: 1-800-VELODYNE (835-6396)
Product Support: 480-595-7141 (Arizona)
Customer Service: 408-465-2851 (RA's)
408-465-2848 (RA's)
408-465-2824 (Parts/RA's)
408-465-2819

I know we live in an internet/email world but sometimes a human voice is still the best option.
post #77 of 716
I got mine in ten days from Calif. to Florida.
post #78 of 716
I live in Orlando too. Still, I haven't even been billed. How long does it take these guys to process an order?

EDIT: They shipped this morning. Looking forward to their arrival. I have a Velodyne VRP-1000 subwoofer and an Onkyo 504 receiver that I'm going to pair with these speakers. Does anyone have a reccomendation for crossover settings? I'm educated enough in sound systems to know that I'm better off buying my components seperately than buying a stupid HITB, but setting up a system from scratch is an alien world to me.
post #79 of 716
I think most everyone has been happy with 100hz-120hz crossover settings. Depending on your ears of course...
post #80 of 716
well, decided to not get the Velodynes since i researched and found so much great info about Athena...

...just picked up the Onkyo 503, BIC h-100...waiting for them to arrive!

now, lookin for the Athenas to go with em....is $100 for a pair of AS-R1s a good deal?? (not R1.2)....still thinking about the $425 deal for 4 B2s and 1 C1 + stands....is it a good deal?...I see the C1 on Ebay for like $60 or 70 shipped...what do you think?? or should i try and find a bargain on F2's???
....which are the best sites to find used Athenas??...Audiogon??...Ebay..anything else??
....one other question...re: speaker wire....which gauge?? and is Monoprice good for it??

Thanks,
J
post #81 of 716
How bout this?

F1.2 $249/pr audioadvisor.com
B1.2 $120/pr audioadvisor.com
C1 new open box off Ebay $60 shipped
Total $439

OK, might have to pay shipping on B1.2 and F1.2 so maybe $480 shipped.

I'd rather have that than 4 B2's and a C1 for $425. In fact I do have the F1, B1, C1 system.

I started with B2 fronts and B1 surrounds and then found an incredible deal on open box F1's at Best Buy 18 months ago. The F1 is clearly better than the B2 to me. And especially better with music.

My second system is now B2 front, C1 and S.5 surrounds with an Onkyo 573 receiver.

Oh $100/pr for R1 surrounds is a great deal. R1 or R1.2 generally go for $125 each.

Speaker wire: 14ga is fine, 12ga may be overkill unless you have super long distances. Monoprice or even Home Depot is fine.
post #82 of 716
I got a set of the Velodyne CHT front row speakers from my fiancee' for my birthday. I must say I'm very impressed. The thing I wanted to point out here is that I have a Velodyne CHT-10 subwoofer. These naturally match up *very* well with it. Very very seamless. It's almost if Velodyne may have done it on purpose!
post #83 of 716
hey!...got the Bic H100, C1 Athena center...looking at some used B1's...wondering which speaker stands people use for the B1/B2 speakers??...can u use some cheapo ones from Ikea or what??
...Onkyo 503 arrives soon...lookin at either F1s or F2s for fronts...

Thanx!
post #84 of 716
one other thing...while waiting for my Onkyo receiver to arrive, is it possible to connect the Bic H100 to my old 2.1 sound Craig receiver??..it has no sub connection on the back though...but is there a way to do it somehow?

Thanx,
J
post #85 of 716
I've had mine for a few months now. Love them, if you're on a budget are just looking for speakers for your bedroom, etc.. these are perfect. Doubt you'll find better speakers for the price.
post #86 of 716
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Originally Posted by BoomieMCT View Post

I got a set of the Velodyne CHT front row speakers from my fiancee' for my birthday. I must say I'm very impressed. The thing I wanted to point out here is that I have a Velodyne CHT-10 subwoofer. These naturally match up *very* well with it. Very very seamless. It's almost if Velodyne may have done it on purpose!

That's suspicious and fortunate.

What's the difference in the Front Row and the Deco speakers. Is it just the enclosure and center channel?
post #87 of 716
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Originally Posted by ThomasV555 View Post

That's suspicious and fortunate.

I did notice that the CHT-10 sub has a passive highpass filter at 85 Hz. The listed range of the CHT Front Row system is 90Hz - 22kHz +- 2 dB.

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Originally Posted by ThomasV555 View Post

What's the difference in the Front Row and the Deco speakers. Is it just the enclosure and center channel?

The Deco system comes with a pretty solid 8" sub that people seem to like. The surrounds are also different - different drivers and made of plastic. I don't know much about them.
post #88 of 716
I'm awaiting a Velodyne Front Row system ordered late last week.

Has anyone had an experience mounting the center channel speaker on a wall?

I was thinking about the Vogel VLB100B Wall Mount, but I haven't seen any photos of the back of the speaker to confirm it will work.

Thanks.
post #89 of 716
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Originally Posted by tbertino View Post


Has anyone had an experience mounting the center channel speaker on a wall?

I have not, but since it is a sealed box I don't see why this wouldn't work. The only problem you might have is that the center is not pre-drilled for anything to be screwed into it (the surrounds are).
post #90 of 716
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Originally Posted by BoomieMCT View Post

I have not, but since it is a sealed box I don't see why this wouldn't work. The only problem you might have is that the center is not pre-drilled for anything to be screwed into it (the surrounds are).

Thanks, that answers my question. Not a big deal, but I was hoping to not have to drill the holes.
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