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post #181 of 6614
9/3/06 at 7:10am
There are Mits owners complaining about the same thing.
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post #182 of 6614
9/3/06 at 7:10am
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Originally Posted by H60Ace View Post

I bought the 61fn97 tonight. I have 90 days to return it if I don't like it. I got a killer deal on this set. I am just worried about SSE. I sure hope it isn't so bad after I run a calibration disk through it. I am pretty excited, as this is the culmination of over a year of research. I am picking it up tomorrow.


H60,
Please post your settings post-calibration as I am interested what you come up. I did DVE DVD the other day and would like to compare with you...
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post #183 of 6614
9/3/06 at 7:12am
Willco!
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post #184 of 6614
9/3/06 at 7:12am
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FWIW I was told the FC was a Costco model when I called JVC customer service.

If you are affiliated with JVC perhaps you can clarify?

I dont think its a Costco specific model, since Costco has the 56FN97 on their website. It may end up being sold thru costco in the end.

Here in Canada, the electronics chain Future Shop (owned by Best Buy) will be selling the FC97 series and say they will be the only ones selling it(not sure how true that is) and the other dealers will be selling the FN97 and FH97.

Might not be costco, but I bet another big box retailer will have some similar arrangement to sell the FC97 models.
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post #185 of 6614
9/3/06 at 7:18am
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Future Shop (owned by Best Buy)

Didn't know that. That's it, the 'C' is for Canada, eh! (sorry, couldn't resist)
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post #186 of 6614
9/3/06 at 7:36am
So I will be clear on this. The HD**FN97 models accepts and displays a 1080p input source whereas the models HD**FH96 models do not??? So I would assume that the FN97 models will be able to display true 1080p material from like a Blue Ray DVD player assuming it outputs 1080p material.
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post #187 of 6614
9/3/06 at 7:41am
That's what they are telling us.
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post #188 of 6614
9/3/06 at 7:43am
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That's what they are telling us.

How long till some one will really know
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post #189 of 6614
9/3/06 at 8:14am
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How long till some one will really know

'Till someone ponies up and buys a blu-ray or HD player, and then buys a title that actually is encoded so as to really take advantage of the the new format. Some releases have had less than stellar reviews on their detail and clarity, with comments like "It doesn't look much better than a standard DVD"

I don't think that a true test of an HDTV's PQ will be how well it displays a 1080P Video Game (PS3 when it comes out). Video games, no matter how good they are getting, are not a real measuring stick for true to LIFE imaging.
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post #190 of 6614
9/3/06 at 9:28am
Bruce, it does have two cable type inputs one says ATSC Digital Cable In the other says 75 OHM UHF/VHF but it is a 56FH97. Is the fuzzy DVD issue the same thing causing the halos and if so what would I tell the service center to make sure it's taken care of properly? I'm really new to all this so any additional info is greatly appreciated.
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post #191 of 6614
9/3/06 at 9:42am
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Bruce, it does have two cable type inputs one says ATSC Digital Cable In the other says 75 OHM UHF/VHF but it is a 56FH97. Is the fuzzy DVD issue the same thing causing the halos and if so what would I tell the service center to make sure it's taken care of properly? I'm really new to all this so any additional info is greatly appreciated.


If you have an antenna (even a set of rabbit ears), just plug it into the 75 ohm uhf/vhf input. If your antenna is an old one, it might not have the 75 ohm connector, just a flat wire with a couple of "u" shaped connectors. You can get an inexpensive adaptor for that (I doubt it will cost you more than a buck or two, possibly less than a buck). If you have to go buy an OTA antenna, they all pretty much come with the correct type of connector. And unless you live far out where reception is weak, I wouldn't worry about getting an expensive one.
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post #192 of 6614
9/3/06 at 9:57am
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it does have two cable type inputs one says ATSC Digital Cable In the other says 75 OHM UHF/VHF but it is a 56FH97

Well something is wrong somewhere unless JVC made some change. Can you post a pic of the rear panel??
Here is the panel from last years 96 series and the panel from this years G787 series that should have the same tuner. I can't find any pic of the rear panel of this set. Any of you other owners; how many RF inputs does this set have?
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post #193 of 6614
9/3/06 at 10:02am
Videobruce - take another look at that graphic. There appear to be two seperate RF inputs: 1 marked uhf/vfh and the other marked atsc cable. They just aren't next to each other.
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post #194 of 6614
9/3/06 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by Nom de QWERTY View Post

Videobruce - take another look at that graphic. There appear to be two seperate RF inputs: 1 marked uhf/vfh and the other marked atsc cable. They just aren't next to each other.


Oops. My mistake. I only saw one graphic when you posted it. Didn't realize that it was the 96.
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post #195 of 6614
9/3/06 at 10:04am
The text description only says "RF input" as in one just as the 720s' have. Can you post a pic??
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post #196 of 6614
9/3/06 at 10:22am
It looks similar to the 96 but the UHF/VHF connector is at the bottom of the panel not the top. Have the diagram from the manual but don't konw how to post it.
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post #197 of 6614
9/3/06 at 10:32am
Why would they do it differently for the two sets. Makes no sense and their web site is wrong. Sounds as a 'Phoney all baloney' move.

Can you post a pic?
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post #198 of 6614
9/3/06 at 11:04am
Yeah, I've found 3 different prices for the 70" on their website !
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post #199 of 6614
9/3/06 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by gostan View Post

I don't have a JVC 97 monitor, but I am sitting here listening to 5.1 Dolby True-HD sound via hdmi 1.1 on Constantine via a Toshiba HD-DVD XA-1 through my Anthem D2 (video is an older Sony GWIII). You can have the full benefits of the new audio codecs today. Why wait?

gostan HDMI 1.1 does not support Dolby True-HD-you're hearing good 'ol DD 5.1 over HDMI 1.1. 1.1 also supports DVD-Audio 5.1(but not SACD). AFAIK there are no DD True-HD decoders available yet & HDMI 1.3 is required. not to get too OT but if your receiver/pre-pro has analog 5.1 inputs you CAN hear the uncompressed PCM soundtrack on HD-DVD's which i hear is excellent.
back on topic-anymore issues re: disabled HDMI inputs? this was a concern of mine re: the JVC xx96 models. based on the glowing reports of the xx97's PQ i might take the plunge this Xmas if the HDMI issue has been resolved(also if FiOS TV becomes available in my area but that is yet another issue.)


Jim
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post #200 of 6614
9/3/06 at 2:25pm
Bruce, Be glad to post the diagram (the picture would be tough, have to move the TV out by myself) don't know how to post pictures here <<feeling stupid>>
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post #201 of 6614
9/3/06 at 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by Road Runner View Post

Some releases have had less than stellar reviews on their detail and clarity, with comments like "It doesn't look much better than a standard DVD"

I don't know about the new JVCs but I have last years JVC HD-61FH96 and a Toshiba HD-DVD player. The HD movies that I have played on that setup are SPECTACULAR! Beautiful color, depth, blacks, and extremely clear. No artifacts at all. HD-DVD players blow regular DVD players out of the water (and I had an expensive regular DVD player that supposedly UPSCALED to 1080)!
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post #202 of 6614
9/3/06 at 2:58pm
Hi, New member here. I ordered the JVC 56FN97 and expect it to be delivered on Wednesday. I currently have a 43" toshiba CRT that provides me with HD 1080, but since it is 4:3 format, the high def tightens up the screen and I have a smaller image with the silver bars above and below. Here is my question. Will the new JVC provide me with a better image, albeit bigger than my current 5 year old crt or am I just going to get a bigger HD picture.
I like my current tv and want to improve the tv experience, which is quite good now. Thoughts/comments from those of you who have converted from older and smaller units.

thanks

GL
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post #203 of 6614
9/3/06 at 3:56pm
My 61FN97 arrives on Wed. I can't wait.

Videobruce, unfortunately I don't have photographic evidence, but I'm absolutely sure that there are two RF inputs. I stopped into BB this afternoon where they have a 56fn97 on display (I double checked the model number). One RF input on the top of the panel, one on the bottom.
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post #204 of 6614
9/3/06 at 4:06pm
new jvc owner right here.just ordered the new 61fn97 today from best buy.i think i got a awesome deal and got 36 months 0% financing.will be delivered tomorrow.
can't wait to set it up and hook up my HD DVD player.
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post #205 of 6614
9/3/06 at 9:41pm
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

The text description only says "RF input" as in one just as the 720s' have. Can you post a pic??

Here is pic of HD-FN97 rear jackpack. One RF input (lower left by INPUT 3 PC IN) is marked 750 ohm (VHF/UHF), the other upper middle right is labeled ATSC/DIGITAL CABLE IN.

The users guide is not clear at all on this, but does state that there is a D/A input button on the remote control that switched between analog cable stations and digital cable stations.

I am not using this kind of a hook up yet, as I have HDMI out of an HD digital converter from Time Warner Cable directly into HDMI 1 input. The TV does come with an RF splitter and two short jumpers so as to send RF to both inputs, and I would assume, one could alternately accept OTA while the other accepts a digital feed.

I will try to find an old set of rabbit ears tomorrow, and hook it up to the RF, and then connect an RF out from the cable box to the ATSC/DIGITAL CABLE IN and report on what I find.
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post #206 of 6614
9/3/06 at 10:50pm
To anyone waiting to buy the new 61FC97 hold on your horses. I just find out the AAFES is having a sale on the 61FC97 for better the price than a 56fh97. Just look at the Sept 8 weekly special.
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post #207 of 6614
9/4/06 at 4:48am
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don't know how to post pictures here

Below the reply text box are "additional options". The one marked "attach files" and "manage attachments" is what you would use. As long as the size is less than 800x600.

Road Runner; thanks for the pic. Unbelievable that they didn't change the input setup with these when they did with the 720s'.
I love how JVC shares two out of the three composite inputs with the component.
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The users guide is not clear at all on this, but does state that there is a D/A input button on the remote control that switched between analog cable stations and digital cable stations.

Yes, but does the set have two independent digital memories , one for OTA and the other for cable??
Can someone try this even if it is a quick scan with a indoor antenna and a few digital stations?
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post #208 of 6614
9/4/06 at 6:42am
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Originally Posted by HDntheCity View Post

gostan HDMI 1.1 does not support Dolby True-HD-you're hearing good 'ol DD 5.1 over HDMI 1.1. 1.1 also supports DVD-Audio 5.1(but not SACD). AFAIK there are no DD True-HD decoders available yet & HDMI 1.3 is required. not to get too OT but if your receiver/pre-pro has analog 5.1 inputs you CAN hear the uncompressed PCM soundtrack on HD-DVD's which i hear is excellent.) Jim

Jim, Not to stay off topic, but It is my understanding that the Toshiba HD player converts the audio to high resolution pcm and it is passed over either analog 5.1 or hdmi 1.1. The Anthem D2 is one of the few pre-pros with hdmi 1.1 capabilities and it then passes the audio signal through to the listener in DD+ and now Dolby True-HD (as the Toshiba player has had its firmware released and revised to allow Dolby True-HD.

See the following from Kris Deering's D2 review on Secrets: With HD DVD and Blu-Ray there are new sound formats to deal with. These include Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby True HD, and DTS-HD. As it stands right now these formats need to be decoded to high resolution PCM inside the player to take full advantage of them in your system. This means the decoded PCM stream can be transported via either HDMI or analog multi-channel outputs like we've had to do with DVD Audio and SACD in the past. Only receivers or A/V processors with HDMI v1.1 compliant inputs will be able to accept these signals via HDMI. The D2 does this and you can apply any post processing format you want to it including ones like THX Ultra 2 and PLIIx.


In fact, the only real benefit of hdmi 1.3 would be SACD capability or the ability to decode the HD audio codecs in your receiver or pre-pro, instead of in the player, where the decoding is done today.
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post #209 of 6614
9/4/06 at 9:14am
NEOGEO33,

Saw the AAFES (military exchange) sale price of <2500 for the 61FN97 starting on the 8th. I'm going to put one on layaway and check out the reviews from all the owners here. Not sure you can go wrong at that price. What do you think, good strategy??

COL P
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post #210 of 6614
9/4/06 at 11:23am
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Originally Posted by gostan View Post

Jim, Not to stay off topic, but It is my understanding that the Toshiba HD player converts the audio to high resolution pcm and it is passed over either analog 5.1 or hdmi 1.1. The Anthem D2 is one of the few pre-pros with hdmi 1.1 capabilities and it then passes the audio signal through to the listener in DD+ and now Dolby True-HD (as the Toshiba player has had its firmware released and revised to allow Dolby True-HD.

See the following from Kris Deering's D2 review on Secrets: With HD DVD and Blu-Ray there are new sound formats to deal with. These include Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby True HD, and DTS-HD. As it stands right now these formats need to be decoded to high resolution PCM inside the player to take full advantage of them in your system. This means the decoded PCM stream can be transported via either HDMI or analog multi-channel outputs like we've had to do with DVD Audio and SACD in the past. Only receivers or A/V processors with HDMI v1.1 compliant inputs will be able to accept these signals via HDMI. The D2 does this and you can apply any post processing format you want to it including ones like THX Ultra 2 and PLIIx.


In fact, the only real benefit of hdmi 1.3 would be SACD capability or the ability to decode the HD audio codecs in your receiver or pre-pro, instead of in the player, where the decoding is done today.


you may be correct-my understanding(from a different review of the Toshiba player) was that the uncompressed PCM audio was something different from True-HD. one other benefit of 1.3 would be simplified hook-up(1 cable v. 6!) & in my case the ability to keep my Denon uni. player connected via 5.1 analog while connecting an HD or BD player via 1.3(i have a lot of DVD-A/SACD discs & doubt the next gen. HD players will support these formats). BTW i'll bet that Anthem pre/pro sounds GOOD!!!

back OT any more reports of the HDMI ports suddenly becoming disabled? please tell me JVC '86'd that ridiculous photo sensor!!!! JVC i PROMISE if i get a xx97 i won't open the back!! EVER!!


Jim
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