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post #241 of 6625
Thanks COL P, while the info isn't for me (61" won't fit), my boss (retired CW3) is looking for a new HDTV as well. Saw your post and had to let him know. I'll pass the info along. Could you PM me with the advertised price, as going out to Ellington Field is not near anything either of us ever go to. Thanks again for your help!

-joebmed (11B and 91A)
post #242 of 6625
I bought mine at AAFES for $300 more than is listed in that CONUS flyer. The sale does not apply to AAFES Pacific. I thought that the in-store display stand was kind of chincey (

I still feel as though I got a great deal, and am more than happy with the product. One major problem is that I sit way too close to my TV and it is giving me motion sickness. I guess I have to rearrange my living room!

R/

CW2 I (153D, formerly FC1(SW), USN)
post #243 of 6625
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Originally Posted by H60Ace View Post

One major problem is that I sit way too close to my TV and it is giving me motion sickness. I guess I have to rearrange my living room!

R/

CW2 I (153D, formerly FC1(SW), USN)


LOL

I would've thought with all the boats you've probably been on motion sickness should be a moot point. However, my twin sister is Lab Tech (not sure of the code) in the USN as well and always been on land based hospitals or clinics, go fig.

- joebmed (11B10C2 and 91A10)
post #244 of 6625
Love it!
post #245 of 6625
My wife just sent me a picture of our newly delivered 61FN97. That is our soon to be bought back Sony 50XBR1 to the left

post #246 of 6625
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Originally Posted by aohurst View Post

Is color management on or off?

Exactly as was described, with color management off.
post #247 of 6625
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoBig View Post

My wife just sent me a picture of our newly delivered 61FN97. That is our soon to be bought back Sony 50XBR1 to the left

Looks like the Sony has really deep blacks
post #248 of 6625
Good one.
post #249 of 6625
Doh! My wife just called to report that the TV lost the HDMI input some how while she was in the menu. She was able to get back to the HDMI input by cycling through the inputs but this sounds similar the the cable sens issues that H96 users were reporting. Hopefully it was a phantom problem and will not return.
post #250 of 6625
My dealer called and told me my 70" should be in on Friday.

Now, what stand??

I can get a JVC stand for under $ 400 or a nice Salamander
trio stand for a grand.

Any ideas???
post #251 of 6625
swgiust,

Are you getting the FH70 or the FN70 ? Also, can you post or PM me the price you paid; I've found 3 different prices on their website .

Thanks
post #252 of 6625
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoBig View Post

My wife just sent me a picture of our newly delivered 61FN97. That is our soon to be bought back Sony 50XBR1 to the left

Why is the 'elephant ears' going back??
post #253 of 6625
Dumbo has a case of the Green blob. Always has. I just waited hoping Sony would have a real fix for it. When I called to have it fixed I found out that the LE is back ordered for 2 months so they offered me a buy back. I will get to meet my new 61FN97 in an hour, I will let you know how it compares to the XBR1
post #254 of 6625
Went to BB on Monday and took advantage of all the specials and ordered my 56FN97. Supposed to be here tomorrow (9/7). Picked up my cable HD STB with DVR today so I'm all set....Bad thing is I have to go out of town this weekend and won't even be able to enjoy it on my first football weekend. Somebody just shoot me!!!
post #255 of 6625
Hi all. I also went to BB this weekend and bought the 61FN97. It'll be delivered on Friday. I'll miss the first game on Thursday, but at least I'll have it all day Sunday! I hadn't planned on buying for a few weeks, but this deal was hard to pass up. Can't wait until the PS3's hit the stand
post #256 of 6625
heres some pics of my 61fn97 .
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post #257 of 6625
Well since I was the first owner of the 61FN97 on this forum, it only makes sense im the first to run into problems. Twice now (once about 1.5 weeks ago and then again today) when I turn on the TV a series of vertical green lines appear throughout the whole television. These lines are overlayed over the television signal. What seems to make them go away is keeping the TV on for 5-10 minutes and then turning it off and then they are gone when I turn it back on, everything is fine. I tried turning the televison off and on right away (twice) and the green bars continued. I don't know if this is a lamp warming issue, but I had the JVC local repair shop number in hand. Im trying to decide if I should still call or wait until this happens again. And no there is greenish tint or otherwise any other problem with the display usually. Since this is obviously a new set and my first hdtv, it put a damper on my day. Just thought I would share.
post #258 of 6625
mp smoov

Thanks for the update.

Since the problem is intermittant, you might want to take some pictures of it when it happens. It'll help the tech later. Might even email them to JVC so that the tech gets the correct parts.
post #259 of 6625
CAN YOU 70FH96 AND 70FN97 OWNERS COMMENT ON THE PQ FOR NON HD CHANNELS?

As I am not able to compare these sets myself, so I need your comments to help me make a decision on the 70FN97, Toshiba 70HM196 or the Sammy HLS7178 or the Mits WD73732. I have been reading these forums for a month now and still can not make up my mind. Overall the PQ for non HD channels will probably make my decision as we still watch a lot of SD shows.I favor the LCOS over the DLP and will be about 13 ft away
post #260 of 6625
Quote:
Originally Posted by swgiust View Post

My dealer called and told me my 70" should be in on Friday.

Now, what stand??

I can get a JVC stand for under $ 400 or a nice Salamander
trio stand for a grand.

Any ideas???

I use a Studio Tech "High Fidelity HF-33 66" Wide Modular Rack" for my 70" FH96. I had to remove the top shelf since the TV was too high. It was the only rack I could find that had a shelf high enough for my center channel speaker.
post #261 of 6625
Well I have been playing with the 61FN97 in my home now for a few hours and I have been directly comparing it to my about to be bought back by Sony 50XBR1.

Here are a few of my first reactions:

+ Nice looking cabinet, like it better then the Dumbo ears
+ There are three settings for the Power indicator LED including off
+ Discrete input IR commands work on my MX-700 remote
- THe discrete command for the HDMI inputs toggles between them and is therefore not a discrete command
+ Good looking picture compares favorably with other displays overall
-- Missing that extra depth deep blacks that the SXRD can provide
-- Not as 3d looking as the SXRD
-- There are only 4 picture modes and they appear to be shared across all inputs(comp and HDMI) This is rediculus
+ Worked imediately with my HTPC and looked very nice as 720p and 1080p with only 3.5-6% overscan similar to my XBR1
+ Image for the desktop is centered unlike my XBR1
-- Can not find a way to indiviually adjust white balance like I can on the XBR1 and on the new Mits TVs
--- White balance is off and skin tones have a green hue that I could not get rid of with the tint control

--- Blacks are not nearly as Black as my XBR1(I know I kind of already mentioned this but I thought that it was worth mentioning again)
-- The remote and user interface are HORRIBLE. JVC should be embarassed that they can not do any better then this.
--- User controlled picture adjustments do not have a very noticable change in the picture. I would say they have 50% of the range of my Sony


I know that was alot of negatives and I applogize but I am pretty disappointed. I guess that the XBR1 sets the bar pretty high, I wish mine did not suffer from the green blob. I almost ordered the new Mits 2007 DLP now I wish I had. I chickened out over Rainbow effect and eye fatigue, but I think overall the Mits picture quality is enough better then the JVC that it might reconsider. I also might take another look at the A2000 or wait for the XBR2.

I will keep trying to tweak the picture and report back but any one on the fence about ordering sight unseen may want to wait until they can see it in person.
post #262 of 6625
Are any of the owners planning to get these sets professionally calibrated?
post #263 of 6625
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Originally Posted by MyVice View Post

Exactly as was described, with color management off.

OK, I noticed this, too, on mine. I think TheaterPro has settings we cannot adjust via the user menu.

Does anyone know how to access the service menu?
post #264 of 6625
Service menu link from older thread. I might see if I can adjust the white balance...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=598154
post #265 of 6625
OK I used the Service menu to adjust the white balance. Even my rough first cut at it made a big differnece. These sets come set way over saturated. I cut the values for almost all of the Drives(RGB) almost in half until my color bars were not bleading over.

Now I am much happier with the overall picture. I will have to do some more viewing now before I post my follow up impressions. Anyone with one of these sets I can not recomend unough adjusting your white balance using the service menu(or some user men which I can not seem to find) and a calabration disc such as DVE or use HDNET Test patterns as I did. It is a night and day difference to my eyes and very easy to do.

Be very careful though if you do go into the service meny and only change the RGB drives. You should probably write down any setting before changing it as well.
post #266 of 6625
GoBig,

I'm a little confused.
Adjusting white balance is basically making black and white appear black and white (actually D65).
If all colors were oversaturated, wouldn't you just reduce color saturation in the user menu?
Are you using DVE or Avia to check for the color decoder settings??

How does the JVC compare to the XBR1 in terms of detail and video noise?

In your writeup, you mentioned that the blacks on the XBR1 were blacker than the JVC. Is this in all scenes or just those where the average picture level is low? When you see this, are the lighter parts of the scene also darker? Wondering if this is just a setting as to how aggressive the iris is set.
post #267 of 6625
Quote:


-- Can not find a way to indiviually adjust white balance like I can on the XBR1 and on the new Mits TVs

Don't know about that 'other' manufacture, but Mits only has color encoder adjustments, NOT white balance (AFAIK). That's only in the SM as it is with most, if not all sets.
Quote:


--- User controlled picture adjustments do not have a very noticable change in the picture. I would say they have 50% of the range of my Sony

Just how much range do youneed? The color takes it down to '0', the tint has more than enough range, AFAIK, so does the contrast and brightness. Just what/where is the problem??
post #268 of 6625
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoBig View Post

OK I used the Service menu to adjust the white balance. Even my rough first cut at it made a big differnece. These sets come set way over saturated. I cut the values for almost all of the Drives(RGB) almost in half until my color bars were not bleading over.

Now I am much happier with the overall picture. I will have to do some more viewing now before I post my follow up impressions. Anyone with one of these sets I can not recomend unough adjusting your white balance using the service menu(or some user men which I can not seem to find) and a calabration disc such as DVE or use HDNET Test patterns as I did. It is a night and day difference to my eyes and very easy to do.

Be very careful though if you do go into the service meny and only change the RGB drives. You should probably write down any setting before changing it as well.

GoBig,
Earlier in this thread, I posted my settings using DVE. I did not, however, go into the service menu.

Please post what settings you ended up with including the service menu tweaks, so we can get a comparison.

I think all FN/FH97 owners can benefit from this.

Thanks.
post #269 of 6625
Sorry I misspoke. I meant color decoder. I calibrated using color bars from HDNET and my set of filters from DVE. With the user settings (TINT, COLOR, PICTURE, BRIGHTNESS, and IRIS) I could not manage to get the colors to look right. Once I was able to adjust the color drives in the service menu I go the color bars looking very close to where I felt they should be.

Blacks are not nearly as black on all scenes. The XBR1 just has deeper blacks. It is very noticable. I even lowered the Brightness and IRIS to their min setting. In my view at that setting in Theater Pro I should not feel like I need to darker, but that is how I felt which lead to my comment on the range of the settings.

Noise reduction seems pretty good. I would give the edge to the Sony but it probably is not very fair to compare a 50 inch sony to a 61 inch JVC.

I really wanted to like this Set, but at this point I have to say that it will be going back. I would like to get the black level of XBR1, atleast closer then I got with the JVC last night. I will try again tonight. Over all it is a very nice set, My computer looks great on it. I would say that it easier to view then the Mits Y65 that my inlaws have, just because it lacks the DLP. My XBOX360 looked great as well.
post #270 of 6625
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Originally Posted by aohurst View Post

GoBig,
Earlier in this thread, I posted my settings using DVE. I did not, however, go into the service menu.

Please post what settings you ended up with including the service menu tweaks, so we can get a comparison.

I think all FN/FH97 owners can benefit from this.

Thanks.

They were very rough as I was just tinkering last night. I will try again tonight and post my results.
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