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post #31 of 6625
Thread Starter 
That was pretty much the experience I had. Felt that in the showroom that a direct comparison side by side with the Sony showed the JVC a better unit. Even if PQ was the same (which it was not), the JVC had several features that the Sony did not, which in my opinion made it a better value.
post #32 of 6625
ptwat,

I also thought that the Sony has a non linear red push to it. To me, the JVC looks more natural.
post #33 of 6625
Let me ask the owners of these sets if there are any issues with service? I dont know if any of you have the same situation in your area where not many places carry JVC as compared to Sony and Samsung.

I have been trying to find out about the FH97 for quite a while now, and have found the people at the 800 customer service number to be completely incompetent. I am just worried that I will be worse off than I am now with Samsung. I am looking for a 61" JVC that has the cable card slot and PIP. Could care less about gold inputs... but would like the black cabinet.
post #34 of 6625
Road Runner,

Can you please comment on how the user menu is setup for IRIS operations. Is there a place to defeat auto operation and allow manual fixed settings?
post #35 of 6625
I was wrong initially, there is no user setting memory per input.... What they did is There are four settings ( Dynamic, Standard, Theater Pro, Game) For each of those there are 2 memories, one for HD and one for SD signal. I'm guessing this was done as more people are using receivers to send everything to their TV thus never using more than one input. Not sure how I feel about that yet.

What was done via the service menu, i can't say.
post #36 of 6625
What would you say the chances of the JVC's outperforming the forthcoming SXRD XBR2's? I just saw a XBR1 the other day being fed 1080i from a Blu-Ray demo disc, and I was completely blown away!!! Unfortunately no JVC's at Tweeter. But the >$1000 difference between the 60XBR2 and the 61FN97 is hard to look past right now.

Thanks,
Brian
post #37 of 6625
Brian,

No one knows.
It'll be a few more weeks before XBR2s will be shipping.

I also find it hard to wait, but we mind as well.
post #38 of 6625
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Originally Posted by btomasie View Post

What would you say the chances of the JVC's outperforming the forthcoming SXRD XBR2's? I just saw a XBR1 the other day being fed 1080i from a Blu-Ray demo disc, and I was completely blown away!!! Unfortunately no JVC's at Tweeter. But the >$1000 difference between the 60XBR2 and the 61FN97 is hard to look past right now.

Thanks,
Brian


It's probabably going to be considerably more money than that. From what I've seen so far, retailers are going to be offering a lot deeper discounts off of the MSRP on the JVCs than they are on the Sonys.

With any luck, I'll have mine by the end of the week.
post #39 of 6625
I bought the FN 56" model from BB earlier this week. I have been able to view the TV now for about 5 days. As I expected High Def looks great. My personal opinion is that the this Television meets or exceeds the PQ of the Sony's. However this is based upon seeing the JVC in my home versus the Sony and JVC in the store.

The negatives:

I see instances of the screen grain becoming apparent and sparkling in scenes with light and/or white background. I assume this is the dreaded SSE. However, the phenomena is intermittent and is not a major problem with my enjoyment.

I'm more concerned with viewing 480P DVD's. I played some of House of Flying Daggers last night via component connection from my Denon 2900 DVD player. There seemed to be much more grain then I remembered when playing this DVD through the same player feeding my CRT rear projection model Toshiba TW40X81. I'm surmising that since the television is much larger than the Toshiba and the viewing distance is equal at 9 ft. that I'm only noticing what is on the print. The Toshiba was also professionally calibrated while the JVC was only "eyeballed".

In general I think that this television has a great picture and is a bargain as compared to the competition, especially the Sony's.
post #40 of 6625
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kurajo View Post

I have been trying to find out about the FH97 for quite a while now, am looking for a 61" JVC that has the cable card slot and PIP. Could care less about gold inputs... but would like the black cabinet.

The FC will have the black cabinet once it is available (no word anywhere on that one). It will have cablecard, but are you familiar with what you give up when using cable card as vs an HD DVR or even a HD Digital Converter? What cable system are you in?

The silver trim on then FN is very minimal, from the front maybe a third to a half of an inch at most.
post #41 of 6625
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Originally Posted by shollndr View Post

I bought the FN 56" model from BB earlier this week. I have been able to view the TV now for about 5 days. As I expected High Def looks great. My personal opinion is that the this Television meets or exceeds the PQ of the Sony's. However this is based upon seeing the JVC in my home versus the Sony and JVC in the store.

The negatives:


I'm more concerned with viewing 480P DVD's. I played some of House of Flying Daggers last night via component connection from my Denon 2900 DVD player. There seemed to be much more grain then I remembered when playing this DVD through the same player feeding my CRT rear projection model Toshiba TW40X81. I'm surmising that since the television is much larger than the Toshiba and the viewing distance is equal at 9 ft. that I'm only noticing what is on the print. The Toshiba was also professionally calibrated while the JVC was only "eyeballed".

Have you tried putting your DVD player on 480i to see if the JVC does a better job of scaling/deinterlacing??
post #42 of 6625
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Originally Posted by kurajo View Post

I was told by JVC product specialists that the FN series was a "lower end retailer" model...such as COSTCO, SAMS, BB etc....

Not sure if anything they say is believable...

Feature wise, it sounds like the FC series would be the lower end model.
post #43 of 6625
the FC is the lower end (Costco) model...

the FH (the HOT model if that's easier to remember) has the thin black bezel

the FN (the NEW mid-range b&m model)
post #44 of 6625
Does no PC input on the 'C' model really mean no PC input, even through HDMI?
post #45 of 6625
RoadRunner,

Do you by any chance have the SA 8300HD box for your cable input? I have been distressed to learn that when I connect my new plasma to the box via HDMI, I lose the ability to adjust for colot and tint. I certainly hope that the same thing does not turn out to be true when my FH97 arrives.!!!
post #46 of 6625
I have been reading these threads for about 3 months. I pulled the trigger today and ordered my 61FN97 from BB. It should arrive this Thursday. I'll post my first impressions later this week. Thanks to you all for helping me decide which set to purchase.
post #47 of 6625
I ordered my HD70FH97 from a local dealer. He says it should be here within
the next 10 days!!!!

I looked on the JVC website and they do not show a stand for this set.
Anybody have any ideas??

Thanks
post #48 of 6625
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Originally Posted by swgiust View Post

I ordered my HD70FH97 from a local dealer. He says it should be here within
the next 10 days!!!!

I looked on the JVC website and they do not show a stand for this set.
Anybody have any ideas??

Thanks

Jump over to the JVC Pro Thread. Lots of pics and suggestions. I have a Plateau and it is perfect for my 70" Pro.
My wife and I love our set. In our minds it is absolute perfection. I am sure the new units will even be better if that is possible.
My only problem is keeping the neighbors from inviting themselves over for movie and football nights.
Man can they eat the popcorn!
post #49 of 6625
Re: Screen grain "SSE"

I have the 70FH96 and briefly saw the 56FN97 at BB this past weekend. The screen showed grain but it seemed much less than the 96 series. The grain was finer so it was harder to notice than on the 96 series. The TV has the same nasty looking menus but the PQ makes up for it. The feed on the set was horrible (tons of noise) as usual. My 96 has an incredible picture with a high quality 1080i source. The 97 should be even better with less SSE.

I'm wondering how others will rate the SSE on these new sets. This has always been a big complaint.
post #50 of 6625
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomboyter View Post

RoadRunner,

Do you by any chance have the SA 8300HD box for your cable input? I have been distressed to learn that when I connect my new plasma to the box via HDMI, I lose the ability to adjust for colot and tint. I certainly hope that the same thing does not turn out to be true when my FH97 arrives.!!!

Yes, I have the SA 8300HD. I have not had the opportunity to check on your question yet, but will try to do that this evening.
post #51 of 6625
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Road Runner,

Can you please comment on how the user menu is setup for IRIS operations. Is there a place to defeat auto operation and allow manual fixed settings?

In the Picture Adjustments screen, there are "Sliders" for Tint, Color, Picture, Bright, Detail & Iris.

Additionally there are setting choices for:

Color Management- compensates for dull colors (ON or OFF)

Dynamic Gamma- analyses and adjusts total picture brightness, (enhances greyscale) (On or Off)

Advanced Smart Picture- Adjusts Average picture Level (APL) brightness (On or Off)

Digital VNR- Digital Video Noise Reduction (Auto/Min/Max/Off)

MPEG NR- effects the block noise removal (sic) and mosquito noise reduction (On or Off)

I have not touched any of these settings yet.
post #52 of 6625
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wembly View Post

Re: vga input

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Road Runner
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wembly
in the 'pre-owners' thread for the hd-xxFx97 there was a question on max resolution for vga input. you wouldnt happen to know the answer?
Thank you,
--Wembly



Available input resolutions from a computer via the D-sub connector are:

640 x 480 (VGA)
Vertical frequence 60 Hz Horizontal frequency 31.5 Hz

or

1024 x768 (XGA)
Vertical frequence 60 Hz Horizontal frequency 48.4 Hz

These are the only formats that are suppored.

Apple Macintosh computers are not supported.



Thank you very much but, sadly that wasnt the news i wanted to hear.
where did you get that information anyhow?
--Wembly
Report Post

Info comes from the JVC owners Manual
post #53 of 6625
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Originally Posted by Smeeg View Post

the FC is the lower end (Costco) model...

the FH (the HOT model if that's easier to remember) has the thin black bezel

the FN (the NEW mid-range b&m model)

Looks like JVC Canada only has the FH series on their site, and the box store Future Shop has the FC models in their computer so far. I would doubt that all 3 are going to be imported.

Is the FC basically the same display, just less features and a different cabinet?? I already have a 5.1 HT system and will not be plugging into a computer, so thinking of the FC if its the same.

61FC97 .....MSRP of $3999 CAD
60A2000.....MSRP of $4199 CAD
post #54 of 6625
Has anybody hooked up their set to a Dish Network 622? (or any of their HD recievers)?

Has anybody done it HDMI?

How's it look?
post #55 of 6625
The FN97/FH97 is an LCoS set, right?
post #56 of 6625
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maestro J View Post

The FN97/FH97 is an LCoS set, right?

Yes, LCOS Projection (HD-ILA,D-ILA or SXRD) are variants on the same LCOS technology. see this link for a good explanation.


http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...giesguide6.php
post #57 of 6625
RR,

Do you agree with GammaDude that the SSE is less on the 97 than on the 96 ? Are you bothered by it in normal viewing?
post #58 of 6625
Quote:
Originally Posted by Al-berta View Post

Looks like JVC Canada only has the FH series on their site, and the box store Future Shop has the FC models in their computer so far. I would doubt that all 3 are going to be imported.

Is the FC basically the same display, just less features and a different cabinet?? I already have a 5.1 HT system and will not be plugging into a computer, so thinking of the FC if its the same.

61FC97 .....MSRP of $3999 CAD
60A2000.....MSRP of $4199 CAD

I emailed JVC Canada and heard back yesterday. My respondent reported that both the 56FH-97 and 56FN-97 were in stock and could be ordered through a local dealer here in St. John's for $3699 Cdn. Shipping is 7 days. I'm guessing this price is negotiable, but even if not, it works out roughly the same as buying on-line in the USA and having it shipped. Plus you have a Made in Canada warranty.

I didn't ask about any other models.
post #59 of 6625
Got mine yesterday ..Have all of my things to the inputs ..But my #1 hdmi port wasnt working ..But port 2 was and my optical digital audio output dosent work as well ..Ive got the local jvc service center coming out thursday to fix these problems . If anyone has this TV what are your picture settings ? brightness , detail ect ..Also was told by the place I got it from when they delivered it that I need to run through a splitter cause I have an HD Digital box ..I Dont understand why I cant just run the cable straight to the TV . ..Over all I think the TV is great ..My 360 looks unbelievable at 720 P ..Hopefully they can fix this at my home or they will exchange mine for another.
post #60 of 6625
I just picked up the 56FN97 from the local Best Buy. I went in on Sunday afternoon in hopes of seeing the new model, but was promptly told that they weren't allowed to display any of the 97's until OCTOBER. What a joke... Spoke with one of the salesguys there and decided that we'd unpack one earlier this afternoon to take a gander.

Wow. Really all I can say. Colors, uniformity, PQ, all were fantastic out of the box. I had been wanting the A2000 but decided to wait when I heard that this JVC would accept 1080p input. I don't think I can post pics yet (due to # of posts), but I will post up as soon as I am able.

Random info:
Box dimensions for the 56" - 55.5"w x 40.5"h x 21.5"d

Time to start setting up. First step for me is to test the PC input... You guys let me know if there is anything specific I can look at and I'll do my best.
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