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post #5041 of 6610
10/24/07 at 6:24am
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thedeskE, I read the post wrong, sorry. When I saw you say "pigment" I thought it had something to do with the lunatic's ranting about "Green GREEN G-R-E-E-N!".

No Worries - perhaps the `Paint' analogy was too subtle
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post #5042 of 6610
10/24/07 at 7:45am
For the page and post#...

Unfortunately I don't have the skill sets to be doing that. I can PM Adrian and see what his settings is; as he's a righteous due for sure and Holy Smokes...Only 3500+ ISF calibrators in the whole USA....

Dang....Time to get certified and "hit the niche".

I was hoping that in these 5000 plus posts that a "general settings" would coalesce(horse shoes and handgrenades). I'm not MCSE or Solaris 7 rated so I don't like fussing with computers. My expertise lies in other areas...

If any one can direct me to a post with recent "generalized settings"' man I 'd be appreciative!


Thanks and looks like I'll be looking for an ISF certification course-I spend alot of time in ATL (alpharetta) and there's so much $$$ flying around it's unreal.


I watched a videocast from Joel Silver; founder of ISF and it convinced me, coupled with watching (forcefully) watching 10 minutes of "dancing w/the stars" that this field is a gold mine.

I'm very happy that everyone is enjoying their sets...the 25G shock sensor on my delivered box was "activated...so maybe the Light Engine is thrown out of whack?

Long to short...any "settings suggestions" short of service manuals and winzip files would be greatly appreciated...What did Cuba Gooding say? "Show me the settings!" On...it think it was money...LOL.

Thanks...Greg
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post #5043 of 6610
10/24/07 at 9:37am
A-10
Settings thread - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=743858
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post #5044 of 6610
10/24/07 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by A-10 Pilot View Post

For the page and post#...

Unfortunately I don't have the skill sets to be doing that. I can PM Adrian and see what his settings is; as he's a righteous due for sure and Holy Smokes...Only 3500+ ISF calibrators in the whole USA....

Dang....Time to get certified and "hit the niche".

I was hoping that in these 5000 plus posts that a "general settings" would coalesce(horse shoes and handgrenades). I'm not MCSE or Solaris 7 rated so I don't like fussing with computers. My expertise lies in other areas...

If any one can direct me to a post with recent "generalized settings"' man I 'd be appreciative!




Thanks and looks like I'll be looking for an ISF certification course-I spend alot of time in ATL (alpharetta) and there's so much $$$ flying around it's unreal.


I watched a videocast from Joel Silver; founder of ISF and it convinced me, coupled with watching (forcefully) watching 10 minutes of "dancing w/the stars" that this field is a gold mine.

I'm very happy that everyone is enjoying their sets...the 25G shock sensor on my delivered box was "activated...so maybe the Light Engine is thrown out of whack?

Long to short...any "settings suggestions" short of service manuals and winzip files would be greatly appreciated...What did Cuba Gooding say? "Show me the settings!" On...it think it was money...LOL.

Thanks...Greg

the settings thread link that thedeskE just posted is a very good place to start. having a calibration disk such as avia, dve or the silicon optix benchmark hqv disk in blu-ray or hd-dvd is the preferred way to set up your tv and sound system. but if you don't have one of these, the thx optimizer option on one of the star wars dvds will get you started. if you are not pleased with your picture after making the picture, contrast and color adjustments (i was!), then there could be some damage to your set. try the different settings you see in the settings thread before reaching a conclusion, though.

though i am a believer in isf calibration, my budget is not now able to handle the cost (maybe in a few months!).

oh, yeah, dial everything in with a dvd player first and the fiddle with cable, satellite or cable box settings afterward.
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post #5045 of 6610
10/24/07 at 4:24pm
No doubt you saved my rear there


I've a piece 'o junk SD DVD player and am going to pony up for a HD-DVD for calibration....Know it's a bit off topic but waht do you guys think of the Oppo 981 (I know its a POC compared to others) but I need an Upconverting model that'll handle components (can't get these darn HDMI's to work for the life of me) and I've read some decent reports. Oh snap...it looks as all those are HDMI models...darn it all to heck...

Oh well...you guys are great and thanks for helping me out I'm printing those pages for posterity (the settings) I'm also signing up for Sencor's January ISF training(1/21-/1/23) in Sioux falls. SC is sorely deficient in ISF techs(except in Charleston and Columbia). The heck w/Firedog and Magnolia...

Definite lifesavers you guys are

Now if I could only get a handshake...LOL


Greg
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post #5046 of 6610
10/24/07 at 9:21pm
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No doubt you saved my rear there


I've a piece 'o junk SD DVD player and am going to pony up for a HD-DVD for calibration....Know it's a bit off topic but waht do you guys think of the Oppo 981 (I know its a POC compared to others) but I need an Upconverting model that'll handle components (can't get these darn HDMI's to work for the life of me) and I've read some decent reports. Oh snap...it looks as all those are HDMI models...darn it all to heck...

Oh well...you guys are great and thanks for helping me out I'm printing those pages for posterity (the settings) I'm also signing up for Sencor's January ISF training(1/21-/1/23) in Sioux falls. SC is sorely deficient in ISF techs(except in Charleston and Columbia). The heck w/Firedog and Magnolia...

Definite lifesavers you guys are

Now if I could only get a handshake...LOL


Greg

If you need component hook ups, check out the oppo 980, unlike the 981, it has HDMI and component hook up's
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post #5047 of 6610
10/24/07 at 9:47pm
i know other owners in this thread have had issues with the hdmi inputs, if you go through some more of the posts you will see what i mean. i think some people have had bad cables, and others have had to go into the service menu to reset the hdmi inputs (i know, not your level of expertise,yet). i have no experience with satellite boxes and their setup, but could it be as simple as setting something in the setup menu to output over hdmi?

does anyone else have some insight to this problem?

on your request for an opinion on the oppo dvd players, i know the magazine reviews are favorable, but i went with a toshiba hd-d2 player i ran across at costco. for a little more than the oppo,it upconverts well to 1080i, AND plays hi-def disks. because the jvcs de-interlace correctly, there should be little difference between 1080i and 1080p upconversion, if i understand the magazine articles correctly.

i am sure you will learn all about that in january, maybe you should postpone a purchase until then.

mike
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post #5048 of 6610
10/25/07 at 3:29pm
This is sort of a bizarre post, but oh well...

There is a spider inside my TV. At first I thought he was just on the outside, but when I went to go kill him, I realized he was on the INSIDE of the glass. I don't guess there is anything I can do about it - but I figured I would ask if anyone had any ideas... It's not the end of the world, but it's kind of annoying.

Hopefully he gets to close to the bulb and fries.
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post #5049 of 6610
10/25/07 at 3:54pm
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This is sort of a bizarre post, but oh well...

There is a spider inside my TV. At first I thought he was just on the outside, but when I went to go kill him, I realized he was on the INSIDE of the glass. I don't guess there is anything I can do about it - but I figured I would ask if anyone had any ideas... It's not the end of the world, but it's kind of annoying.

Hopefully he gets to close to the bulb and fries.

Reach in thru the side panel and grab it with a tissue.

If you are worried about touching the screen, use the long tube of a vacuum cleaner to grab him.
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post #5050 of 6610
10/26/07 at 11:03am
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Originally Posted by shakin cliches View Post

This is sort of a bizarre post, but oh well...

There is a spider inside my TV. At first I thought he was just on the outside, but when I went to go kill him, I realized he was on the INSIDE of the glass. I don't guess there is anything I can do about it - but I figured I would ask if anyone had any ideas... It's not the end of the world, but it's kind of annoying.

Hopefully he gets to close to the bulb and fries.

This happened to me too. He lasted about 3-4 days IIRC then must have either escaped or died. Just give it time and he'll go away, one way or another. If he did die inside, he didn't land in the path of the projection or anyhting like that so was lucky. I think that's really all you have to worry about.
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post #5051 of 6610
10/26/07 at 12:33pm
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...There is a spider inside my TV. At first I thought he was just on the outside, but when I went to go kill him, I realized he was on the INSIDE of the glass. ...

Been there a couple of times, beast died or left in a few days but left cobwebs. To remove them, I have side panels on my set which come out with one Phillips screw, but apparently not all D-ILAs have them. If you have them and do remove them take the opportunity to blow out the filter holes from the inside, which will reduce future dust build-up.
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post #5052 of 6610
10/26/07 at 10:28pm
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Originally Posted by mikenh3 View Post

because the jvcs de-interlace correctly, there should be little difference between 1080i and 1080p upconversion, if i understand the magazine articles correctly.

mike

For TVs Yes, which makes HDMI an option you can use or not depending on your other equipment playing nice.
Remember, these TVs are late 2006, and HDMI has a history of being problematic. That said, you may be one of the fortunate who have no problems.
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post #5053 of 6610
10/27/07 at 8:32am
Not to rehash a dead issue, but all these dust and lens comments got me wondering. So just for kicks I removed one of the dust filters on my FN97 this morning. This was the first time I ever tried this. Not only was there virtually no dust on the filter, but inside the TV was damn near spotless. It certainly didn't look like the lens or mirror had any dust on it. Nor would I expect it to since the picture looks great. And my apt. gets very dusty due to our HVAC system. If the picture looks like it has a yellow tinge (as mine did out of the box) try lowering the green drive via service menu. It's a known issue that these sets over emphasize green. It worked for me.

Going on 14 months with 2137 hours on the original bulb (~4-5 hours per night and +/-12 hours on the weekends).

So, my point is to new & potential owners - no set is 100% perfect, but these are good sets and a fantastic value (especially now) so don't worry.
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post #5054 of 6610
10/27/07 at 10:08am
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Going on 14 months with 2137 hours on the original bulb (~4-5 hours per night and +/-12 hours on the weekends).

I noticed the bulb (TS-CL110U) is the same one used in all models from Z to FH. Seems to be plenty around for 120-150 new. I remember going well past 3000 on the 52Z. Hopefully my new 56FH will last as long.
Thinking about stocking one this time around.
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post #5055 of 6610
10/27/07 at 1:18pm
Yeah, might be a good idea to have an extra bulb kicking around just in case.

Anybody have any good recommended dealers other then JVC.com?
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post #5056 of 6610
10/27/07 at 3:31pm
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Originally Posted by thedeskE View Post

I noticed the bulb (TS-CL110U) is the same one used in all models from Z to FH. ...I remember going well past 3000 on the 52Z. Hopefully my new 56FH will last as long.
Thinking about stocking one this time around.

I got 6100 on my last one, didn't fail but was getting weaker. New one brought set back to original D-ILA glory. I always keep a spare, just for peace of mind.
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post #5057 of 6610
10/27/07 at 3:57pm
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Yeah, might be a good idea to have an extra bulb kicking around just in case.

Anybody have any good recommended dealers other then JVC.com?

auction - where else. Dealers are too greedy
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post #5058 of 6610
10/27/07 at 6:52pm
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I built an HTPC to connect to my 70FH97 and have had mixed results. I'm using a video card with an nVidia 8600 GT on Windows Vista and have found the tools for adjusting the resolution to be lacking. I was hoping to be able to set the resolution to 1080p (1920x1080) so that there would be no scaling. Unfortunately there is a lot of overscan on all four sides when I do that and the nVidia Control Panel doesn't give any way to change the overscan. There's a lot of chatter on the nVidia boards about this. I don't know if this is because it is on Vista or because it is nVidia. I haven't tried ATI yet, but if I can verify that you can adjust the overscan with the ATI software, I'll try an ATI board.

When I set the resolution to 1768x992, there is noticable underscan, but at least you can see the whole picture.

Sorry for the off topic discussion. I just didn't want folks to think nVidia was the hands-down better solution on an HTPC.

The media center is the only good thing about VISTA, it works beautifully with the Hauppage 350 Hardware MPEG 2 encoder tuner card by the way, but I use XP and the NVIDIA drivers (I'm using 7600 GT) have tools with slider bars that make the overscan correction drop dead easy. Unfortunately I have not found these same controls in VISTA. I suggest going back to XP media center.
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post #5059 of 6610
10/27/07 at 7:19pm
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auction - where else. Dealers are too greedy

Careful. There's cheap counterfeits out there.
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post #5060 of 6610
10/27/07 at 10:14pm
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Careful. There's cheap counterfeits out there.

Roger That
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post #5061 of 6610
10/29/07 at 8:04am
I am trying to download the service manual. I tried the link in Post 3860 (http://cynic821.dvxdata.com/Public2/YA409.zip), but it no longer works. Does anybody know of another source? Thanks.
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post #5062 of 6610
10/29/07 at 4:56pm
I just wanted to say that after 1 year, I am VERY satisfied with my purchase.
Picture is still as good as day 1, I have not noticed any dimming of the bulb and with more and more HD programming and a PS3 playing Blu-Ray movies, this thing is simply a treat to look at.
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post #5063 of 6610
10/29/07 at 10:38pm
Got my 56FN97 last Monday. I knocked down the green bias, increased the blue a little and slightly reduced the red. The picture kills my previous set (Sony 42A10) and I have no complaints.

The fan noise is there, but in this age of computers fan noise no longer bothers me. Unless you listen to shows at really low volume levels I can't see the fan noise being objectionable.

And, for all those that complain about SSE, I'll take it over the glare you get from plasmas, LCDs and standard TV sets any day. There's nothing worse than getting reflections off your TV. SSE is a very minor issue compared to that.

I just noticed that the 56FC97 was listed in November issue of Home Theater magazine among the 74 sets they tested in various video parameters. 81% of the sets tested failed the 3:2 pull down test. The JVC passed via HDMI, but failed via component video. Every tested set made by LG, Panasonic, Philips, Samsung, Toshiba and Vizio failed this test (yikes!) If you use component with your JVC, you may want to switch to HDMI. It passed every other test and was the best non-plasma set in their new "motion resolution" test.

And no, I'm not a JVC plant. I'm a veterinary technician that used to sell hi-fi equipment in the early 90's. I've never liked JVC audio equipment, but I like this TV.
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post #5064 of 6610
10/30/07 at 5:03am
Another 56FH97 up here. Great Buydig/Manna service. TV looks fine, even in it's out of the box torch mode. I made a few adjustments in time to enjoy MNF on ESPN HD. No time to test with the BD-10 (busy day) but darn good picture for a first night.
I'll try not to bore this string with more of the same, but this is a great deal on a 56. If my 52 buyer comes through, I'll have 600-700 invested in the switch. Not bad.

Hopefully by next week I'll have my ISF over to dial it in.
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post #5065 of 6610
10/30/07 at 5:08am
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...And no, I'm not a JVC plant....

Welcome to our corner of AVS, lvtdude, there is really only one or a very few who look under beds for industry plants. Us happy D-ILA owners know otherwise. Thanks for your report.
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post #5066 of 6610
10/30/07 at 10:37am
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I just noticed that the 56FC97 was listed in November issue of Home Theater magazine among the 74 sets they tested in various video parameters. 81% of the sets tested failed the 3:2 pull down test. The JVC passed via HDMI, but failed via component video. Every tested set made by LG, Panasonic, Philips, Samsung, Toshiba and Vizio failed this test (yikes!) If you use component with your JVC, you may want to switch to HDMI. It passed every other test and was the best non-plasma set in their new "motion resolution" test.

And no, I'm not a JVC plant. I'm a veterinary technician that used to sell hi-fi equipment in the early 90's. I've never liked JVC audio equipment, but I like this TV.



You beat me to the punch.
Motion res was 780 (as opposed to 1080).
Nothing was higher except the 1080p plasmas.
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post #5067 of 6610
10/30/07 at 5:50pm
Oh yeah...Must be my VIP 622...as the "DishHoles" claim that "HDMI" is not a industry supported format. Well...the STB box failed the HDCP and I'm waiting on my HD-A2 (yeah the Oppo said NO BIG RPTVS) for my 61"...I've noticed a slight drop in the green push; maybe the lamp has to burn in a few more hours before I back the green and raise the blue...

Anywho...yeah...I hope the Toshiba "handshake's" with DILA-as Dish said the VIP 622 won't do that (Oh..snap...these guys are nuts)

Oh yeah....btw...If you get an idea to get a 2nd Rx to pump your 720p set up on "dual mode" from SD-don't bother....I added a VIP 211 and for the extra money (and loss to access the 622's DVR's) what a waste....She was upscaling fine off of 480...from the 622...DOH!




Greg
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post #5068 of 6610
10/30/07 at 7:08pm
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Anywho...yeah...I hope the Toshiba "handshake's" with DILA-as Dish said the VIP 622 won't do that (Oh..snap...these guys are nuts):eek

Greg

My XA-1 works fine with my 56FN. I haven't had any issues with any of my HDMI devices on the JVC and I've had/have a DTV H20 receiver, Oppo 971 (dvi/hdmi), Tosh KX50, and two pc's via dvi/hdmi using a Monoprice 5/1 switch. You should be ok on the A2.
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post #5069 of 6610
10/31/07 at 5:19am
The A2 works perfectly via HDMI on my 61FN97.
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post #5070 of 6610
10/31/07 at 10:03am
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I haven't had any issues with any of my HDMI devices on the JVC and I've had/have a DTV H20 receiver

Interesting - seems like a number of people had issues with the H20. Thought I'd leave mine in component, but I have an extra HDMI cable. I'll give it a try. I do audio with a cheap toslink (no HDMI in the receiver)
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