AFI "100 Years, 100 Films" and Top 100 Adjusted Box Office broken down by format! - Page 7

In regards to the AFI top 100 list, I saw a special on Bravo the other day and it revealed the new list. Apparently quite a few titles changed order and a few more were added/deleted from the 1998 list. Here's the updated order....

2007 AFI LIST OF TOP 100 MOVIE'S:

1. "Citizen Kane," 1941.
2. "The Godfather," 1972.
3. "Casablanca," 1942.
4. "Raging Bull," 1980.
5. "Singin' in the Rain," 1952.
6. "Gone With the Wind," 1939.
7. "Lawrence of Arabia," 1962.
8. "Schindler's List," 1993.
9. "Vertigo," 1958.
10. "The Wizard of Oz," 1939.
11. "City Lights," 1931.
12. "The Searchers," 1956.
13. "Star Wars," 1977.
14. "Psycho," 1960.
15. "2001: A Space Odyssey," 1968.
16. "Sunset Blvd.", 1950.
17. "The Graduate," 1967.
18. "The General," 1927.
19. "On the Waterfront," 1954.
20. "It's a Wonderful Life," 1946.
21. "Chinatown," 1974.
22. "Some Like It Hot," 1959.
23. "The Grapes of Wrath," 1940.
24. "E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial," 1982.
25. "To Kill a Mockingbird," 1962.
26. "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington," 1939.
27. "High Noon," 1952.
28. "All About Eve," 1950.
29. "Double Indemnity," 1944.
30. "Apocalypse Now," 1979.
31. "The Maltese Falcon," 1941.
32. "The Godfather Part II," 1974.
33. "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest," 1975.
34. "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs," 1937.
35. "Annie Hall," 1977.
36. "The Bridge on the River Kwai," 1957.
37. "The Best Years of Our Lives," 1946.
38. "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre," 1948.
39. "Dr. Strangelove," 1964.
40. "The Sound of Music," 1965.
41. "King Kong," 1933.
42. "Bonnie and Clyde," 1967.
43. "Midnight Cowboy," 1969.
44. "The Philadelphia Story," 1940.
45. "Shane," 1953.
46. "It Happened One Night," 1934.
47. "A Streetcar Named Desire," 1951.
48. "Rear Window," 1954.
49. "Intolerance," 1916.
50. "The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring," 2001.
51. "West Side Story," 1961.
52. "Taxi Driver," 1976.
53. "The Deer Hunter," 1978.
54. "M-A-S-H," 1970.
55. "North by Northwest," 1959.
56. "Jaws," 1975.
57. "Rocky," 1976.
58. "The Gold Rush," 1925.
59. "Nashville," 1975.
60. "Duck Soup," 1933.
61. "Sullivan's Travels," 1941.
62. "American Graffiti," 1973.
63. "Cabaret," 1972.
64. "Network," 1976.
65. "The African Queen," 1951.
66. "Raiders of the Lost Ark," 1981.
67. "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?", 1966.
68. "Unforgiven," 1992.
69. "Tootsie," 1982.
70. "A Clockwork Orange," 1971.
71. "Saving Private Ryan," 1998.
72. "The Shawshank Redemption," 1994.
73. "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid," 1969.
74. "The Silence of the Lambs," 1991.
75. "In the Heat of the Night," 1967.
76. "Forrest Gump," 1994.
77. "All the President's Men," 1976.
78. "Modern Times," 1936.
79. "The Wild Bunch," 1969.
80. "The Apartment, 1960.
81. "Spartacus," 1960.
82. "Sunrise," 1927.
83. "Titanic," 1997.
84. "Easy Rider," 1969.
85. "A Night at the Opera," 1935.
86. "Platoon," 1986.
87. "12 Angry Men," 1957.
88. "Bringing Up Baby," 1938.
89. "The Sixth Sense," 1999.
90. "Swing Time," 1936.
91. "Sophie's Choice," 1982.
92. "Goodfellas," 1990.
93. "The French Connection," 1971.
94. "Pulp Fiction," 1994.
95. "The Last Picture Show," 1971.
96. "Do the Right Thing," 1989.
97. "Blade Runner," 1982.
98. "Yankee Doodle Dandy," 1942.
99. "Toy Story," 1995.
100. "Ben-Hur," 1959.

On what list(s)?

That may be right, but I don't think it's really relevant to this thread.

This thread is purely a look at which format would films on the AFI list would be released.

They might never be released. Or they might be announced next week. Or they might come out but sell poorly, like Casablanca.

But that's maybe for another thread. This is one of the few 'pure' threads here at AVS High Def discussion.

Steve W

i always have problems with these "official lists". a quick glance tells me these people seem to think all the worthwhile movies were produced half a century ago. there are some old films i love, but honestly, i don't think i can sit through half of the movies they've mentioned. i know they were pioneering for their day, but to do a list of best movies today, you should really judge the movies with standards that are in place TODAY.

take maltese falcon. i really wanted to like this movie, but the acting, dialog, action and plot are so cheesy compared to today's standards i was laughing at it alot of the time. yet it made #23. i love singing in the rain, and it's a classsic for sure, but top 10 of all time? really? i'm by no means a fan of the mtv generation of film making, but movie making has advanced so much since the 1940s that i honestly think these critics are stuck in the past.

It is unfair, IMO, to compare what is on the list to todays movies. Many of those films on the list were true ground breaking films . . from a technological standpoint . . to mixture of actors/acteress, to the fact that TV did not exist when some of these movies were made.

Take Lawrence of Arabia for example. There are no "special effects" like models or such. Those are real trains being crashed. Only the actors "dying" are the fake stuff.

We do not do this today with the exception of imploding buildings because they are coming down anyways so they might as well stick it in a film to add realism.

And the age of the demographics plays a BIG part of who watches what. Reliving our childhood is very popular for those who are getting old(er)

Your posts #2 and #4 still list "The Graduate" as announced. It has been released in the meantime by Studio Canal. Just a small remark, to keep your lists consistent with post #1.

Domestic gross and adjusted gross lists. They just don't show that they have been released on HDM yet, making the HDM listings even more anemic than they are.

I started having my mom over to watch some older movies. While there are admittedly are some that just don't make the cut, it opens an enormous opportunity. There are some that are simply TOO SLOW (Rear Window, Citizen Kane and a few others) but for the most part I LOVE the complete change in pacing. I would draw a line somewhere around 1945 and say that there are very few movies before then that I enjoy (I HATE CK, even the revolutionary movies are still just working things out). Late 40s brought Ingrid Bergman and Hitchcock and things improved substantially from there. When you are at BB next Fri, rather than watch the 40th best movie from 07 go back and watch the best few movies from each year. A lot of them stand up very well today.

Arrrggghhhhh!

It's about telling stories.

No one believes Dorothy is actually being whisked away in a tornado. But that's ok because she's going to land in OZ where everyone is 4 feet tall.

No one believes a rat can make a really good chef. But that's ok, too. Visually, the Cowardly Lion is just as "real".

And that orphaned guy with all the dough who fell down a well once and was inspired by bats. Didn't happen. Gotham City isn't real. The Himalayas don't actually look like that, except in a computer generated studio.

It's about telling stories.

Bogie's portrayal of Sam Spade lives on precisely because it touches our hearts, not because the process shots are convincing. That's what makes the AFI list the AFI list.

Bringing these legends to life in HD is awesome and to be encouraged. That's the beauty of being timeless. It's ok even if the creators are all dead and out of date.

Why would you assume that they were not judged with the "standards that are in place today"?

Are you one of those people who will automatically not like a movie, or even be willing to watch it because it is in Black and White?


A great movie is a great movie regardless of when it was made, because truly great movies will always stand the test of time.

The Maltese Falcon is clearly such a movie. Cheesy dialog, acting and plot? Are you kidding me? You are taking into account when the movie was made, right?

I can't even fathom what you might think about movies that have (gasp) subtitles!!!

So I have a question . . .

Everyone comfortable with Pillarboxing?

"Oh Great! . . Now we move the black bars from the top and bottom of the image and stick them on the sides instead!"

As long as it is OAR I don't care where the bars are.

OAR for me.

The bigger the screen, the more you appreciate OAR.

As a matter of fact, on a front projector and a huge image, I actually don't even bother masking out the left and right pillarbars, because to me, they are not that distracting when the 4:3 image is really large.

I am trying to have nice thoughts about vassili.

I agree that (and this is a revelation): "old" Academy Ratio classics really do look better on larger home screens than smaller home screens. There actually is something about the "bigness" which lends them more ... gravitas?

And you know what? Movies are about entertainment and if vassili isn't entertained then is this much different than Mozart vs. Joplin vs. Jagger vs. Madonna? Maybe not. Each, in his/her own way sought to "entertain" as a pop figure even though, over time, each is being elevated to "culture" or even "cheesy" stuck in the time of creation. Mozart/powdered wigs; Joplin/Creole corn bread; Jagger/60s-70s sexual revolution; Madonna/dominatrix?

So vassili thinks Bogie is cheesy or Bergman stupid for her "devotion" or Heinreid over-the-top in devotion to a "cause". Let's be generous and think he just has loads of wonderful stuff to discover down the road. Like seeing the Sistine Chapel in the "flesh" for the first time.

The irony is that the innovative films of yore appear derivative to viewers ignorant of film history, and so they are less likely to appreciate the films' contributions.

i knew someone would inevitably make this assumption. just because i don't like alot of classic movies makes me ignorant? come on. i loved schindler's list which is b&w and i watch tons of subtitled movies, the last one being the lives of others. hell, i bought the maltese falcon on dvd based on reviews because i do enjoy the odd classic movie from time to time. i just didn't make a connection to that movie.

some old movies just don't do anything for me emotionally. i know they were innovative for their time and deserve to be remembered, but most likely, subsequent movies have done it better. we should just hold the original on a pedastel no matter what?

anyway, i have the big sleep sitting on the shelf waiting to be watched (i had bought it with the maltese falcon)...hopefully that'll be better.

One should find a balance between revering the classics and embracing the new.

If you didn't like the Maltese Falcon, I would be shocked if you like The Big Sleep!

Both are great movies though.

IMO its the only relevant thing on this thread. Just look at how many of the top 100 are on HDM. Less than 5??

Its not relevant that we might not see these movies be released but it is relevant what format they would have been released on??? That makes no sense. By the time studios would see a benefit to releasing most of the movies there will be a completely different landscape. There is plenty to discuss about these movies; it is a remarkable compilation. I welcome all pure discussion of these films and their merits. But which studio has the rights to release a movie that they show no interest in releasing is not "PURE" in my mind. It is more confrontational and argumentative than anything.

Looks like Paramount/Dreamworks is still listed as green(neutral), an update may be in order.

Good lists.

Am I the only one who sees the very first post of this thread in 3D with the red and blu print?

Nope, I see it too using the Black forum skin setting