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Help with LP-to-Computer recording?

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
What a great forum, I just discovered this tonight and have been doing some surfing and reading various posts, and have a question I haven't found an answer to.

Sorry for the long post, but I'm hoping someone out there will sympathize and recognize my problem and perhaps have a solution.

I want to record my old LPs with the goal of putting all of them on my iPod, and some of them (additionally) onto CD. I bought the TEAC GF-350, which is a turntable and CD recorder in one bundle with built-in speakers (and AM/FM tuner, oddly enough) but the quality of the recorded CDs is horrible, and the equipment is very poorly made. Though it works for recording CDs, the tone was so bad I finally stopped making them. I then ordered an 'ION USB Turntable' for which I waited 6 weeks (from Amazon). It comes with USB cable and Audacity software, all of which is supposed to make it so easy 'even Grandpa can record his old Big Band LPs onto his computer'. Though I'm 54 and DO have some Big Band albums, I'm fairly up on computer use, but found Audacity software beyond my grasp. I finally decided to use my old Technics turntable (a perfectly servicable unit); bought a phono pre-amp and cable and have been able to run my turntable into the computer and play music. So far, so good...now I just need some guidance in finding a TRULY SIMPLE software for recording my LPs. I can either save them as WAV files, or better yet, find a software that will save them as MP3s (from which I HOPE I can get them onto my iPod, correct?) The latest software I loaded (Creative MediaSource Player) seems to be something I can handle, but though it appears to be recording as I play an LP, when I click on the icon (I save songs to the desktop) it plays just for a split second, like a 'pop'. I don't even need cleaning or editing software, I'd be happy to record my albums just as they are (aside from manually inserting track changes and titles, which I think you have to do with all software).
Thanks for any help anyone can offer.
post #2 of 15
Matt,

Although I have NOT actually used this software yet, I did just purchase it. From the instructions and tutorials I downloaded it appears (and I say this cautiously since I haven't actually used it yet) that this software might not be to complicated.

URL for the package I bought is:
http://www.dak.com/shop/details.cfm?item=55

Hope this helps.
post #3 of 15
Hi Matt,

I use the wave editor in Nero 6, it's easy to apply de-clicking to the file and the Nero BurningROM program makes manual track splitting easy if you're burning a CD (done after file is dragged into the recording list). You need the full version of Nero, not the bundled version that comes with most burners.

The CD can then be loaded into iTunes, or you could split the tracks with the wave editor and import the WAV files into iTunes

I import the WAV files into MusicMatch and record a CD processed via the Dolby Headphone plug-in then load that CD into iTunes.
post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks, Robert for taking the time to make this response. I'll check it out.

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Originally Posted by robertkj View Post

Hi Matt,

I use the wave editor in Nero 6, it's easy to apply de-clicking to the file and the Nero BurningROM program makes manual track splitting easy if you're burning a CD (done after file is dragged into the recording list). You need the full version of Nero, not the bundled version that comes with most burners.

The CD can then be loaded into iTunes, or you could split the tracks with the wave editor and import the WAV files into iTunes

I import the WAV files into MusicMatch and record a CD processed via the Dolby Headphone plug-in then load that CD into iTunes.
post #5 of 15
matt, I have used the dak software avstooge just bought to transfer @60 lps to to wav&mp3. the software is easy to use.the depopper is great for cleaning up hiss &scratches.bought a $99 sony amped t-table at circuit city &plugged it directly into a laptop.hope this info helps.p.s. customer support if you need it is great.
post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hey, Steverm2,
Thanks so much for the response. I'll see if I can hunt it down. You didn't mention price, I'll do a search for it.
Matt
post #7 of 15
matt,look for dak wave editor mp3 pro.
post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks, Steve,
I located his website online last night and purchased the 3-part suite, including the wave editor, equalizer, and track stalker. Haven't tried them yet, but Drew, the guy who runs the DAK site (and whom I assume gives his initials to the name of the company) is somehow affiliated with The Limelighters, one of my favorite old folk groups (same genre as Kingston Trio and Christy Minstrels) and I grew up listening to my dad's albums. Thanks again for the tip, looks like exactly what I've been looking for.
Matt
post #9 of 15
Try xitel.com. They have a product called INport for $70.00 that should do the job.
post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks, Ken,
Looks like this software suite I bought from DAK is going to work for me. I just need time to play around with it.
Matt
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by Matt Nikos View Post

Thanks, Ken,
Looks like this software suite I bought from DAK is going to work for me. I just need time to play around with it.
Matt

Matt,

I bought the same suite you did. FYI, when you use the DAK equalizer, pay attention to your Right and Left channels. When I was playing with mine a couple weekends ago, I discovered that the equalizer flip-flopped the R/L channels. I reported the issue to DAK (Drew) and received response from Dan. After some discussion with Dan, my issue was referred to DAK software engineers. They prepared a custom version of the equalizer for me that resolved the issue. This they did on a FRIDAY/SATURDAY!!!

Anyways, thought you might find this info useful. They provided me with excellent customer service, once I convinced Dan that there was not an issue with my sound card drivers.

IM me if you need more info. I found the DAK recorder and equalizer very easy to use and the CD's turned out great that I made.
post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks, avstooge, I sent Drew a general message and was assigned to Dan also. Though I've only just started to try the software, I sure got a great feeling from this company. Very personalized and really seem to care about the customer, and I'm pretty loyal to companies like that these days. The little time I've had so far has been spent trying to learn the 'track tracker' software for dividing album sides into individual tracks. I'm sure it'll get easier with practice. Thanks for the tip about the equalizer. The truth is, though, that I probably wouldn't know the difference if the channels were flipped, unless you're saying that modifications you were making to one channel were actually being applied to the opposite channel, which I can see would be a problem.
Matt
post #13 of 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Nikos View Post

Thanks, avstooge, I sent Drew a general message and was assigned to Dan also. Though I've only just started to try the software, I sure got a great feeling from this company. Very personalized and really seem to care about the customer, and I'm pretty loyal to companies like that these days. The little time I've had so far has been spent trying to learn the 'track tracker' software for dividing album sides into individual tracks. I'm sure it'll get easier with practice. Thanks for the tip about the equalizer. The truth is, though, that I probably wouldn't know the difference if the channels were flipped, unless you're saying that modifications you were making to one channel were actually being applied to the opposite channel, which I can see would be a problem.
Matt

Matt,

Modifications were applied to the correct tracks. The R and L channels were flip-flopped with their changes intact.

IM me if you want some tips about splitting the tracks. I found that to be a lot of fun. and I am not saying it sarcastically. It was pretty cool, actually.
post #14 of 15
hey all -

has anyone used nero's wave editor program to import and create mp3's? i'm going to try to import my vinyl collection (at least my 12" remixes) to mp3 format. i did a test run using wave editor and i ran across something odd.

i can barely turn the trim levels up on either the wave editor program itself .. or even the line level input on the pc. i mean, two clicks up and it's peaking the db meter and causing serious distortion. i can go about one click up and get a pretty decent recording, but it's a bit bright.

anyway, the whole recording level / input level thing ... that just doesn't sound right to me. so, if anyone has any ideas, lemme know!

thanks,

ted

btw, the test run was via my cd player, through my preamp's tape monitor output, to the pc's input.
post #15 of 15
I downloaded FlexiMusic Wave Editor to transfer the old vinyl recordings to digital audio. Hope with the same software you can even edit and save the recorded digital audio in the format of your choice (either as Mp3 or wav).
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