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post #211 of 2430
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Originally Posted by MCaugusto View Post

Thanks for the heads-up LongDukDong.... I can't think of any other major manufacturer of home electronics that releases three (!!??!!) different lines of similar products within the span of one year : Sharp D90 line on Spring '06, Sharp D62 line on Fall '06 and now Sharp D92 scheduled for early Winter '07....

Makes me wonder, how much longer until we see 46" panels/native 1080p with m.s.r.p. of $2.500 !

Any info., such as prices, on the D92 LCDs?
Although, this far ahead I am sure they could be less than initially expected.
I am waiting for a more affordable 46" 1080p LCD.
post #212 of 2430
Is it true that the 46" and possibly the 52" will not have PIP ?

and at this point do we know what version of HDMI (1.2 or 1.3) will be coming with these TVs ?
post #213 of 2430
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Originally Posted by stef_nl View Post

In Europe the LC-46D62U equivalent will be the LC-46DX1E. Here is a set of picture from a Polish forum. Unfortunatelly I do not speak Polish so I can not translate.

http://hdtvpolska.com/index.php?showtopic=1912


Wow - those look nice!

Maybe someone at CEDIA will be able to find out about HDMI 1.1, 1.2 , or 1.3....

Is 1.2 a big improvement over 1.1?
post #214 of 2430
Link to the press release for the LC42D62U:
http://www.sharpusa.com/products/Fun...617-34,00.html

There is no mention of the Kameyama No. 2 facility in this press release, unlike the press release for the LC46D62U/LC52D62U:
http://www.sharpusa.com/products/Fun...614-34,00.html

which mentions it repeatedly.

I think it's safe to assume the LC42D62U panel is outsourced, since I don't think Sharp has any other facilities that produce 42" size panels. Perhaps Mike53 can verify this assumption.

Of course, the fact that the panel is outsourced does't mean it sucks. But I'm going to stick to the 46" just to be safe.
post #215 of 2430
42D62U = panel frm Taiwan
post #216 of 2430
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Originally Posted by wheelzntoys View Post

42D62U = panel frm Taiwan

I would wait for reviews on the 42". The 42" also uses the standard 3-wavelength backlight while the 46/52" uses a 4-wavelength backlight for better colors. So the 42" is a bit of a step back since all of the D90s had the 4-wavelength backlight as well.

I wish manufacturers would use difference codes for difference panels. (ie. don't use 62U for panels of different grade). In the end the perception is that the manufacturers are trying to pull a fast one on the consumer.
post #217 of 2430
I'm very interested in the 46" model, like many others have previously looked at the sammy and the sony sets but found to either be lacking something I wanted or not visually pleasing.
post #218 of 2430
from the press release.

"LC-42D62U will be available in October for a Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of $2,499.99."

At that price those will fly off the store shelves!
post #219 of 2430
Excuse the naive question, but do the new displays upscale lower quality signals (480p) or is another device (e.g., receiver) required for this?

Thanks in advance
post #220 of 2430
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Originally Posted by OzWiz View Post

Excuse the naive question, but do the new displays upscale lower quality signals (480p) or is another device (e.g., receiver) required for this?

All fixed-pixel (i.e. LCD, Plasma) displays have to scale their inputs to the native resolution ... no external scaler is necessary.
post #221 of 2430
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Originally Posted by E55 KEV View Post

from the press release.

"LC-42D62U will be available in October for a Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of $2,499.99."

At that price those will fly off the store shelves!


Maybe it will bring down the others' prices for the 40-42" class...
post #222 of 2430
Bum deal about the 42". If they had the better CR and backlight I would have snapped one up in a heartbeat for $3000 msrp. Maybe I'll hold out to see what the D92 series offers in ways of a 42", but it'll be painful.
post #223 of 2430
Waiting for mike53's insight on 42D62U. Hopefully we can get clarified where this 42 panel is being manufactured (K2 or not), 3 or 4 wavelength, 4ms or 6 ms, any other feature missing from the 46 and 52 counterparts.

I just saw a Samsung with piano black at local BB. Man, it looked ugly! The border was like a black mirror. Everything was getting reflected. If you have a window, opposite to your TV, you will be in trouble! The one advantage of LCD over plasma is that the LCD panel does not reflect the light as plasma panel and it is good for your eyes. Why use some material which will not be good for your eyes and will distract you from the screen? Any comments?

Another killing point for the D62 series is missing VGA/DVI port. How much money it takes to put just a VGA/DVI port? $50 more!!!!

I think it is good idea to wait for the D92 model. But who knows when D92 will be released. alas!
post #224 of 2430
Does anyone know if this display will accept PC Input via DVI-to-HDMI?
post #225 of 2430
All of sharp 1080p panels come from sharp 8 generation plant.
post #226 of 2430
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Originally Posted by julio388 View Post

All of sharp 1080p panels come from sharp 8 generation plant.


Note Mike53 post on previous page regarding 42" which is a 1080p panel.

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Your information is not correct. KII is optimized for 32 (15), 42, (8), 46 (8), and 52 (6). The 37" panel along with the 26" panel come from KI (next door and is optimized for 26 (12), 32 (8), and 37(6)). The origination of the 42" panel is not known at this time. Regardless of the source, it will be manufactured in Rosarita Beach, Mexico. Whoever "somebody" was, they were referring to 2005 and early 2006 when we sourced 26 and 32 for the Sharp brand (non-Aquos).
Unquote of Mike 53

KameyamaII is able to produce 42", but in same quote he does not know origin. There is no doubt about 46" and 52" panel origin.

Currently Chi Mei (Twn) is able to make 42" 1080p which has a contract w/Sharp. Either way Chi Mei is known for high quality panels plus Sharps internals would make this a great LCD to buy, especially at their MSRP.
post #227 of 2430
Full page ad in today's L.A. Times, page A9, about Kameyama 8th generation plant- "sizes include 37", 46", 52", 57", and 65" models. 46 & 52 in. available October"

No mention of 42"
post #228 of 2430
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Originally Posted by timbobtom View Post

Full page ad in today's L.A. Times, page A9, about Kameyama 8th generation plant- "sizes include 37", 46", 52", 57", and 65" models. 46 & 52 in. available October"

No mention of 42"

For clarification purposes:

Do not infer from this ad that the 37" sets will come out of Kameyama II, the Sharp 8th Generation plant.

"Sizes include..." only means that Sharp makes those sizes, and in no way is there an explicit claim of where each model size is manufactured.
post #229 of 2430
Has anybody seen the 07 Sharp specs over on the Official Sony 40,46,XBR2 site? Nice viewgraph I presume from CEDIA. Specs say something like 12,500:1 Dynamic Contrast ratio and 4ms response time. Probably the 92D models. The idea of posting posting them there is basically to say Sharp has better specs on paper but not in the actual product.
post #230 of 2430
Chi Mei (Twn) won't start mass production until october, but limited output has already began since august.

Taiwan's Chi Mei Optoelectronics gets Sharp order for 42-inch panels - report
07.17.2006, 09:56 PM

TAIPEI (XFN-ASIA) - Chi Mei Optoelectronics Corp (3009.TW) has secured a contract from Japan's Sharp Corp to supply 42-inch thin-film-transistor liquid crystal display (TFT-LCD) panels, the Economic Daily News reported.

The newspaper, which did not identify its source, said Sharp has previously ordered 32-inch panels from Chi Mei.

Meanwhile the report noted that Sharp's 37-inch panels will be supplied by AU Optronics Corp (2409.TW).

Please don't forget westinhouse lcd also has a contact with chi mei. This means these new panels will be heading to westy models coming out soon. They will price much lower than sharp. may guest is that sharp will introduce probably a new 42d90u from there new factory next year.
post #231 of 2430
Okay...just finished a long day with CEDIA ..... clarifications are in order and realize there are some questions I cannot answer.

1. D62 series supports 1080P via HDMI Ver 1.2 (1.2 allows PC digital interface) 1.3 coming in 2007.
2. Color gamut of D62 series is 91%
3. D62 series allows 1:1 pixel mapping (dot by dot)

That's all for now. I'm tired and going to bed.
post #232 of 2430
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Originally Posted by dave4100 View Post

Has anybody seen the 07 Sharp specs over on the Official Sony 40,46,XBR2 site? Nice viewgraph I presume from CEDIA. Specs say something like 12,500:1 Dynamic Contrast ratio and 4ms response time. Probably the 92D models. The idea of posting posting them there is basically to say Sharp has better specs on paper but not in the actual product.

Specs for 46 and 52 D62 is 4ms response time using Fast Motion Mode (default is off and is 6ms). Contrast ratio is 2000:1 Native contrast (new term) and 10,000 dynamic.
post #233 of 2430
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Originally Posted by Mike53 View Post

Okay...just finished a long day with CEDIA ..... clarifications are in order and realize there are some questions I cannot answer.

1. D62 series supports 1080P via HDMI Ver 1.2 (1.2 allows PC digital interface) 1.3 coming in 2007.
2. Color gamut of D62 series is 91%
3. D62 series allows 1:1 pixel mapping (dot by dot)

That's all for now. I'm tired and going to bed.

Now I'm happy I passed over the 4696, FN97, and XBR2. Can't wait for it to arrive. I'll be in contrast, refresh, 4-wavelength, 1: friggin' 1, HTPC-ing heaven.

Thank you Mike and Sharp for bringing an end to my 9 month quest.

I've ordered both the 46 and 52 and will take which ever shows up first.
post #234 of 2430
Is there a confirmation of the D92 panels out there? Yeah, I too saw on the Sony thread about the 2,500:1 CR and 12500:1 DCR and Mike53 seems to not want to answer this knowledge which is now in picture, does anyone know if these will for sure ship in January or so, or what??? It does look like the writing is on the wall. Is there another time this fall say at an expo or something they could show off the D92's???
post #235 of 2430
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Originally Posted by Mike53 View Post

Okay...just finished a long day with CEDIA ..... clarifications are in order and realize there are some questions I cannot answer.

1. D62 series supports 1080P via HDMI Ver 1.2 (1.2 allows PC digital interface) 1.3 coming in 2007.
2. Color gamut of D62 series is 91%
3. D62 series allows 1:1 pixel mapping (dot by dot)

That's all for now. I'm tired and going to bed.

I was truly hoping it had 1.3. Is it worth waiting?
post #236 of 2430
No pictures? A little something something?
post #237 of 2430
@BRY1080P

The next coming Premium-series in January (maybe D92 in US, HD1E in Europe) will support a contrast ratio of 2500:1 instead of 2000:1 in the current series. It was announced at the IFA in Berlin.

You can find some pictures already to the XD1 and HD1-series in my link:
http://www.arcor.de/palb/thumbs_publ...lbumID=3775589

http://www.arcor.de/palb/album_popup...Infos=0&stop=0

http://www.arcor.de/palb/album_popup...Infos=0&stop=0

Regards, Michael
post #238 of 2430
What is most impressive about these new Sharp models is their m.s.r.p.
Are there any other manufacturers out there selling top-of-the-line, native 1080p LCD HDTVs with ATSC/NTSC/QUAM tuners and a diagonal size of 46" for $3.500 ?
If the LC-42D62U turns out being manufactured at Kameyama 2 with a list price of only $2.500, that would make it an incredible buy....Hell, even if it uses an outsourced LCD panel it would still be a steal, considering Sharp's reputation !
Hmm, i wonder what will be the list price for the next batch of Sharp 57" models, perhaps $6.000 ???
post #239 of 2430
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Originally Posted by rell323 View Post

I was truly hoping it had 1.3. Is it worth waiting?

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I don't understand why so many people are so hung up with the display being capable of accepting a HDMI 1.3 signal : it is my understanding that all that entails is the ability to receive these brand new iterations of uncompressed Dolby Digital / DTS / PCM audio signals with the video signals staying exactly as they are now, namely capable of codecs of up to 10 Bits, as opposed to DVI signals which are capable of 8 Bits at most, if I remember correctly.
Wouldn't it then be a lot more important to own a preamp/audio processor or receiver that is fully compatible and capable of decoding HDMI 1.3 signals ? Or am I missing something else here ?
Perhaps the convenience of using a single cable to run audio/video signals to the display and then having the display capable of decoding these uncompressed audio signals and passing the center channel information to its own built-in center speaker, with the added choice of having the other channels connected to FR/FL/RR/RL/SR/SL/SUB speakers ?
But wouldn't one still need to run all these many/many cables from the display to all the speakers, thus undercutting a major part of such "convenience" ?
It is my understanding that these uncompressed Dolby Digital / DTS / PCM audio signals will be used only for HD DVD and BluRay products and that cable/ ATSC HDTV broadcasters are quite satisfied using standard Dolby Digital to encode their signals, or am I wrong in assuming so ?
Regards >>>> Marcos
post #240 of 2430
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MCaugusto]What is most impressive about these new Sharp models is their m.s.r.p.
Are there any other manufacturers out there selling top-of-the-line, native 1080p LCD HDTVs with ATSC/NTSC/QUAM tuners and a diagonal size of 46" for $3.500 ?

Yes, in fact the Samsung LNS5296 can be bought right now for $3,699.00 - 52" from an authorized Samsung Dealer. I'm a Fan an owner of two Sharps and may buy the 52" as the spec's are excellent but it's not all that less than I bought my 45" 9 months ago. Still I agree with you the ansi contrast and dynamic is high an improvement over any previous consumer LCD and I agree the true changes are when they bring on a 57/65" that competes in price with Samsung bringing on a 70" LCD in 6-9 months and the current Samsung at half the price of the Sharp 57".

Competition makes us all winners - so bring it on Samsung, Sony, Philips, et al the bigger the better and force those prices DOWN!
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