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post #661 of 771
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Originally Posted by wnielsenbb View Post

So Mike, get some really long USB extensions and use the projector for your monitor. 100" instead of 24" Yeah! There must be some games your Mac can play.
Warren.

I had to post this with all of the PCvsMac. These spoofs are funny. Not suitable for kids. There is an F-bomb at the end of the clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJtS-FywqQ4
post #662 of 771
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95% of computer users would be well served with a Mac. Those 95% read email and browse the web and nothing else.
It is kinda like 95% of drivers would be well served to drive a VW bug. They never accelerate hard, or speed too much or corner too fast.
I am in the 5% of both. Just a bit above redline is where you shift. A four wheel drift, across three lanes of traffic, into the parking lot in the morning is a great way to start the day. I have had more than one of my cars airborne. I consider the stop light a drag race tree and measure my reaction time. The gas pedal is ALWAYS on the floor at that point.
Same with my computer. I paid $650 for my current video card (may get another,) 800 for my last pair SLI. I have a 37" monitor, and am thinking of going bigger. I intend to play Bioshock with every option on. When the new quad core AMD's come out I plan to slap one into my watercooled case with a new motherboard. Can a Mac do that. I think not. But... it doesn't need to.

Actually you could buy a Mac Pro which is a very high end and expandable system. So while I understand the points you are making, Apple does have a system for the other 5%.
post #663 of 771
Really? It will play Bioshock with all options turned on? I didn't know.
Warren.
post #664 of 771
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Originally Posted by wnielsenbb View Post

Really? It will play Bioshock with all options turned on? I didn't know.
Warren.

Obviously Bioshock is a windows only title but if you boot into windows or run a virtualization program it will play Bioshock. Now I know that Mac OSX does not support SLI but I am not sure if it will be supported if you boot into windows. Question, I am not to familiar with SLI but I do know it needs 2 PCIe slots and an interconnect but is there a difference in the mother board in addition to having more then 1 PCIe? I will be the first to admit that gaming on the Mac sucks due to lack of titles. Apple really F^@KED themselves early on by discouraging games on the Mac. Thankfully that is now changing although a little to slow for me. My favorite kind of games are real time strategy and I can't see myself playing them on a console because I don't want any part of windows. Oh well I'll just have to make due with my Xbox 360 for now.
post #665 of 771
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Originally Posted by wnielsenbb View Post

Really? It will play Bioshock with all options turned on? I didn't know.
Warren.

I don't know either. I am simply saying it is a power system that appeals to the power user. I am sure that if Bioshock were available on the Mac (is it?)that you could get a video card capable of running it with all the options turned on. The Mac Pro has a LOT of horsepower.
post #666 of 771
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Newest developments:

Leopard arrives next Friday, that is only a little less than 9 days away! I'll be attending the local launch party and installing it on my iMac immediately.

I have begun thinking about high definition DVD again and I am starting to formulate a plan to get on board with that. If only the PS3 were quiet, what an awesome device that is otherwise.

Stilll enjoying the HT immensely, latest movie viewed in there was Evil Aliens-1 star out of 5, not recommended. Next movie on the agenda is Transformers. I missed it in the theater so I am looking forward to that one alot.
post #667 of 771
The third gen HD DVD's are less than 300 bucks online. Just watched Transformers HD DVD tuesday night. Amazing.
Warren.
post #668 of 771
Wow, I hope they are less than $300
post #669 of 771
Doc, out of cursiosity, I have the advent ceneter and the panasonic xr 55. And I hear hissing with the voices on titles like ROTK EE (denether talking to faramir in an extended scene called the wizards pupil) and batman begins.

Do you hear this as well?
post #670 of 771
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Originally Posted by docprego View Post

Newest developments:


I have begun thinking about high definition DVD again and I am starting to formulate a plan to get on board with that. If only the PS3 were quiet, what an awesome device that is otherwise.


The PS3 is very quiet, it makes less noise then my DISH VIP622. Now the XBOX360 thats a whole different story tons of noise. It's not so bad when watching a movie with the HD-DVD add on since it's a separate drive.
post #671 of 771
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Originally Posted by kfoster79 View Post

The PS3 is very quiet, it makes less noise then my DISH VIP622. Now the XBOX360 thats a whole different story tons of noise. It's not so bad when watching a movie with the HD-DVD add on since it's a separate drive.

My PS'3 fan dominates the front of my media room. Its extreemly loud. I even have a 4" metal fan (temp) that sits on my 805 to keep it cool and the PS3 fan dominates that. But then again, I fold 24x7 on it.
post #672 of 771
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Originally Posted by bigDvette View Post

Wow, I hope they are less than $300

Have you priced a Blu-Ray player yet? (Or even a PS3). Right now (pre-November), $488 is the cheapest I've seen while I've seen the Toshiba HD DVD Player for $199
post #673 of 771
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Transformers was INCREDIBLE! It exceeded my expectations by a wide margin, I can only imagine how incredible it would be on an HD DVD format.

Cox cable began HD movies on demand here either yesterday or today because it wasn't there 2 days ago when I was channel surfing. Looking forward to giving t hat a try very shortly.

kfoster79: I have already purchased and returned a PS3 because the fan noise was unbearable. At first it is quiet but once a DVD is playing the fans ramp up to intolerable levels. If they could fix that I would be 1000% on board as I found the device to be brilliant otherwise.

Sound dropouts: I have not experienced any hiss on my setup at all.
post #674 of 771
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Originally Posted by kfoster79 View Post

The PS3 is very quiet, it makes less noise then my DISH VIP622. Now the XBOX360 thats a whole different story tons of noise. It's not so bad when watching a movie with the HD-DVD add on since it's a separate drive.

Same here. The PS3 is whisper quiet compared to my 360 elite! I've had my PS3 for about 2 months. Still quiet so far. Sorry to see so many having noise issues, because the PS3 has "more than meets the eye" LOL I'm on the Transformers band waggon. LOVE THIS MOVIE! My new HD-DVD demo disc!

PS- I have my PS3 standing vertical, on the carpet next to my TV stand.
post #675 of 771
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Originally Posted by cnickersonjr View Post

Same here. The PS3 is whisper quiet compared to my 360 elite! I've had my PS3 for about 2 months. Still quiet so far. Sorry to see so many having noise issues, because the PS3 has "more than meets the eye" LOL I'm on the Transformers band waggon. LOVE THIS MOVIE! My new HD-DVD demo disc!

PS- I have my PS3 standing vertical, on the carpet next to my TV stand.

Wow I wish I got a whisper quiet PS3. I absolutely loved that piece of hardware, I literally thought it was amazing. But I could not keep my focus off the fan it was just too distracting. Maybe recent PS3's have fixed this? I remember hearing something about them moving to a different chip process, maybe 45nm? Perhaps the heat output has decreased and therefore fan noise has as well?
post #676 of 771
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Originally Posted by docprego View Post

Transformers was INCREDIBLE! It exceeded my expectations by a wide margin, I can only imagine how incredible it would be on an HD DVD format.

It looks and sounds fantastic on HD DVD in my theater.

You really should take the leap back into HD media and see for yourself.
post #677 of 771
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Originally Posted by luclin999 View Post

It looks and sounds fantastic on HD DVD in my theater.

You really should take the leap back into HD media and see for yourself.

I am ready to make the jump, I would really like to do it with a PS3. But have they addressed the fan noise issue at all?

How is HD DVD doing compared to Blu-ray? Is anyone winning the war? The price of the HD DVD players is very tempting. I could practically pay nothing for an HD DVD player if I eBay my Oppo 971.
post #678 of 771
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Originally Posted by docprego View Post

How is HD DVD doing compared to Blu-ray? Is anyone winning the war?

Short answer, no one is winning. Titles available about even (actually HD DVD has about 2-3 more at the moment). Number of studios supporting each about even.

I bought a $250 HD DVD player (HD-D3 from Costco) and love it. It was cheap enough when compared with the Oppo ($170) I was looking at. It also does a very good job upconverting...maybe not quite as good as the Oppo, but being able to play HD DVD's makes up for it for me. I think in the end we will see all dual format players....but right now the dual format players are more than 2 stand alones.

After playing Tiger Woods 08 and Madden 08 on my brother's PS3 (and seeing the media center capabilities), I might have to jump on the $399 PS3 and the $100 off when you apply for a new Sony card deal....at least to tide me over until dual format players are priced right.

...but that would mean a new rack for my home theater...dang it

Edit: To put the Blu-Ray HD DVD war into perspective.

Blu-Ray and HD DVD total units sold in 2007 through September 4.0 million
Transformers regular DVD units sold in one week 8.3 million.
post #679 of 771
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Originally Posted by sivartk View Post

Blu-Ray and HD DVD total units sold in 2007 through September 4.0 million
Transformers regular DVD units sold in one week 8.3 million.[/i]

Wow perspective indeed. I really want the PS3, that thing is absolutely awesome. If not for the fan noise!
post #680 of 771
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Originally Posted by docprego View Post

Wow perspective indeed. I really want the PS3, that thing is absolutely awesome. If not for the fan noise!

Well I just read something today that says the 40gb PS3 is quieter and uses less power. Still I think the PS3 is crazy quite compared to other things I have 360, ViP622.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/30/40...e-less-energy/
post #681 of 771
From what I understand, the new PS3 has a 65nm chip which means that it doesn’t need as much power and keeps it cooler. I have a Toshiba A30 and A PS3 for my HT and I am still what people call a "Sony fanboy" because I think the PS3 is such a phenomenal addition to my Home Theater (I don’t even really play games on it).
A PS3 vs My Toshiba A30 HD-DVD both at $400… I’ve said it before… you would have to be on crack not to get the Ps3 first if you could only buy one.

post #682 of 771
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I am totally a PS3 fanboy but I do have a few complaints:

1-I HATE glossy black gear-fingerprint magnet! You know a device attracts fingerprints if you end up fingerprinting it by the simple act of removing it from the box and setting it up. I literally handled mine with a soft cloth to avoid this when I had one.

2-Of course the fan noise.

3-Well that's really about it :-)

If the new PS3 is quieter during intensive use than I might be tempted to try one again. Can we confirm that the new PS3 and I assume we are talking about the 40GB model uses a new chip process? If the new one is 65nm what did the older models use? I thought the new chips were 45nm?

I read one report about a week ago that claimed the new one was no quieter. Is the 40GB new model available yet and if so has anyone tried it?

On the computer front: I installed Leopard on my 24" iMac and WOW is it elegant. Apple has really hit a homerun with this one. I ordered a bluetooth mouse to replace the Mighty mouse (finally). I cannot stand the mighty mouse. its right click functionality is ridiculously implemented. Since it only has one physical button you have to touch the side of the mouse that you want to theoretically click. In other words to left click you click the left side of the mouse with your left finger, ot right click your left finger must be totally lifted off the mouse surface and you click on the right side of the mouse with your right finger. I hated that, 80% of the time I ended up getting the wrong click or no click at all. My new Logitech V270 has 2 hardware mouse buttons and a third button if you press down the scroll wheel. What a pleasure! In addition to working great it is bluetooth so no wires or dongles are required which frees up another USB 2.0 port on my keyboard. As a bonus it is silver and matched my iMac nicely.
post #683 of 771
I have been tempted to get the PS3 with the BR exclusive movies, but couldn't justify the price, but then luckily my son put only guns and the PS3 on his birthday list. I got a PS3 now.
Gotta get a 1080 projector now. Too many good choices.
Warren.
post #684 of 771
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Well after some research it turns out that the new 40GB PS3 does use the 65nm chip which runs a lot cooler and uses a lot less electricity. Reports I read said that the noise level has been cut in half or more! Energy consumption was down by about 30% too so that should make for less heat output. I think I am going to pick one of these up tomorrow if I can find them in stock somewhere.
post #685 of 771
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Originally Posted by docprego View Post

Well after some research it turns out that the new 40GB PS3 does use the 65nm chip which runs a lot cooler and uses a lot less electricity. Reports I read said that the noise level has been cut in half or more! Energy consumption was down by about 30% too so that should make for less heat output. I think I am going to pick one of these up tomorrow if I can find them in stock somewhere.

Let us know how it works out for you. I am considering this option also...but with the HD DVD players being cut to $99, I'm wondering if Sony can go any lower than $399 for the 40GB PS3 before Christmas....kind of holding out for that...plus I'd have to rearrange my rack...no fun
post #686 of 771
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Originally Posted by sivartk View Post

Let us know how it works out for you. I am considering this option also...but with the HD DVD players being cut to $99, I'm wondering if Sony can go any lower than $399 for the 40GB PS3 before Christmas....kind of holding out for that...plus I'd have to rearrange my rack...no fun


I don't think that will happen given the fact that Today 11/02 is the "official" release date of the 40gb model.

docprego, Good call let us know about the fan noise and such.
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Yeah, I looked for one at BestBuy and no go. It is 135 watts vs 200 watts for the current model. Very nice fix. The huge problem is I am pretty sure it isn't hdmi. Correct me if I am wrong, and I will send my PS3 back.
Warren.
post #689 of 771
Oh, PS3 40gb tomorrow.

$99 HD DVD and you STILL get the 5 free movies. That = a free player.
post #690 of 771
Oh, it DOES have HDMI. Back to Best Buy with my 60 GB. The PS2 chip isn't worth the heat and power.
Warren.
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