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post #31 of 487
Will the OSD function over the HDMI connection?
post #32 of 487
I use a 5.1 setup.Using this reciever can i bridge the extra amps to use for my mains.THANKS BUDDA
post #33 of 487
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Originally Posted by buddahead View Post

I use a 5.1 setup.Using this reciever can i bridge the extra amps to use for my mains.THANKS BUDDA

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/p...5&CTID=5000400

Advanced Features

* 7-channel 840W powerful surround sound (120W x 7)
* Digital ToP-ART with extremely high quality parts and devices used throughout
* Pure Direct for higher fidelity sound reproduction
* 2 in/1 out HDMI (ver. 1.2a) for handling digital signals including Super Audio CD
* Assignable amplifiers for bi-amp connection
* iPod song titles displayed on front panel and on-screen display (multi-language compatible)
* Improved YPAO sound optimization

I would download the manual, but I'm not a US resident.

https://www.yamaha.com/yec/Registrat...090_manual.pdf
post #34 of 487
Does any one know if it has pre amp outputs that I could send to a seperate amp to power my Tactile Sound Transducers? I'm ready to dump my Denon AVR 1804.
post #35 of 487
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Originally Posted by jwroot View Post

Does any one know if it has pre amp outputs that I could send to a seperate amp to power my Tactile Sound Transducers? I'm ready to dump my Denon AVR 1804.

Yes it does.
Did you even bother to look at the back panel of it?
post #36 of 487
I also just purchased the 6090 and connected it in my HT which includes the most recent Comcast HD/DVR and XBox-360 to my 42" Sony LCD rear projection.

I'm quite happy with this unit but ran into an issue where when connecting the DVR to 6090 via HDMI and then HDMI to TV, I got a copy protection warning and said to use Component cables -- then the video displayed went to a "green screen". I have since routed using Component to 6090 then HDMI to Sony TV.

Has anyone seen this or is it the "hand-shake" issue? Comcast says their DVR is HDCP compliant. Can't imagine it's the Sony as it is not that old.

Otherwise, I'm happy with the output but wish voice (dialog) on TV programming was more directed from the center channel in may programs. Probably more needed in tweaking the setup as I only did the automatic setup with the supplied microphone.

Cheers!
post #37 of 487
Can someone please confirm whether the 6090 will convert all component input to 480p?

I am deciding between the 2700 and the 6090.

I expect I will have to connect my SD8300 STB to the 6090 using component (for known handshake reasons), so I want the 6090 to at least pass through the HD signals from my STB - anything less is a deal breaker for me.
post #38 of 487
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Originally Posted by ttime4four View Post

I also just purchased the 6090 and connected it in my HT which includes the most recent Comcast HD/DVR and XBox-360 to my 42" Sony LCD rear projection.

I'm quite happy with this unit but ran into an issue where when connecting the DVR to 6090 via HDMI and then HDMI to TV, I got a copy protection warning and said to use Component cables -- then the video displayed went to a "green screen". I have since routed using Component to 6090 then HDMI to Sony TV.

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I think this is the handshake issue. You probably need to connect your STB via component. But if the 6090 converts all component input to 480p (as was stated above), then this is a serious weakness. The Yamaha specs show deinterlacing from 480i to 480p and never mention 720p or 1080i, which is disturbing.
post #39 of 487
Help please from anyone who's successfully got their zone2 working through to speakers with no additional amp. I'm getting nowhere in trying to set up my zone 2 for outside speakers on my newly installed 6090. I've followed all the steps through auto set up then in manual set up options I've set zone 2 to var and speakers to SP1......but no sound when the zone 2 light is on and I'm scrolling through the zone 2 inputs......anyone got any ideas???
post #40 of 487
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Originally Posted by Philber View Post

Can someone please confirm whether the 6090 will convert all component input to 480p?

I am deciding between the 2700 and the 6090.

I expect I will have to connect my SD8300 STB to the 6090 using component (for known handshake reasons), so I want the 6090 to at least pass through the HD signals from my STB - anything less is a deal breaker for me.



I think I have the same question, except... I want to pass 1080p component signals (from Xbox 360 fall update) through the HDMI output to my TV, which doesn't accept 1080p through component, but will through HDMI. Is this possible?
The way I read the manual suggests that I can turn off upconversion, but still output a component signal through the HDMI. Am I way off here?

Thanks in advance for any help.
post #41 of 487
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I think I have the same question, except... I want to pass 1080p component signals (from Xbox 360 fall update) through the HDMI output to my TV, which doesn't accept 1080p through component, but will through HDMI. Is this possible?

I don't think the 6090 will pass through 1080p, because not even the 2600 does that. It is, however, a feature of the new 2700, but that receiver is a lot more money than both the 2600 and the 6090.
post #42 of 487
From what i read, the 6090 will pass through a HDMI 1080p signal. If upconverting from an analog singnal, however, it will come out 480p from the HDMI output

I am a newby here, but what I can tell, the 6090 compares most closely with the 1700. The differences seem to be around the 3rd zone output and some higher level programing (RS232, 12v outputs)

I have a 6090 on order. Should be here on in a couple days.

My question for this group is whether or not this is a good match to my sytem

TV - New Sharp Aquos LC52D62U This set can take in full 1080p over HDMI.
Speakers - Definitive BP706 front, CLR2002 center, BP2X surround, and a 100TL sub.
DVD - Sony DVPNS75H Single Disc DVD Player

Is this system all compatible? I know the DVD upconverts to 720p or 1080i, will this reciever pass this through the HDMI ports? I also plan to add HD digital cable using there HDMI port. Not sure what the resolution is, but will this pass through the 6090? Just want to make sure all ths stuff will work together.
post #43 of 487
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Originally Posted by WRolls View Post

From what i read, the 6090 will pass through a HDMI 1080p signal. If upconverting from an analog singnal, however, it will come out 480p from the HDMI output

I am a newby here, but what I can tell, the 6090 compares most closely with the 1700. The differences seem to be around the 3rd zone output and some higher level programing (RS232, 12v outputs)

I have a 6090 on order. Should be here on in a couple days.

My question for this group is whether or not this is a good match to my sytem

TV - New Sharp Aquos LC52D62U This set can take in full 1080p over HDMI.
Speakers - Definitive BP706 front, CLR2002 center, BP2X surround, and a 100TL sub.
DVD - Sony DVPNS75H Single Disc DVD Player

Is this system all compatible? I know the DVD upconverts to 720p or 1080i, will this reciever pass this through the HDMI ports? I also plan to add HD digital cable using there HDMI port. Not sure what the resolution is, but will this pass through the 6090? Just want to make sure all ths stuff will work together.

Check this thread out for some HDMI questions: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1&page=1&pp=30

Hopefully it will help you out.
post #44 of 487
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Originally Posted by eightninesuited View Post

Last I checked, all HTR models have plastic front pannel constuction. The 58XX line from last year had all metal front.

BTW, has anyone seen these in Canada yet? Does BB in Canada plans to carry them? I know some of you here are BB employees, who can maybe shed some light.

Futureshop is carrying them now. There are some in the Calgary Shannessy (sp) store, in Alberta.
post #45 of 487
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Originally Posted by Hazmat View Post

Futureshop is carrying them now. There are some in the Calgary Shannessy (sp) store, in Alberta.

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...0080050&catid=
post #46 of 487
Well I went and did it. I picked up the HTR-6090 at Futureshop today. I get tired just looking at the thing...so many plug-ins & it weighs a ton...what can I say, I'm a smoker. I will post my experience on hooking it up and playing with it after a week or two. If you don't hear from me that means my significant other is still chasing me around town with a shovel as a result of me once again purchasing new A/V equipment....j/k
post #47 of 487
Well, I went ahead and purchased the HTR-6090. I agree with the last post, weighs a ton. I have it hooked up to a complete Definitive Technology surround sound system (BP7006-Front, CLR2002-Center, BP2X-Rear, PS100T-Sub). Got this all connected in a couple of hours. The sound was just OK when I got this connected, but then I ran the Auto setup routine using the supplied microphone. This system came alive once I did this. I have now connected a upconverting DVD from Sony, an older RCA 5 disk CD changer, and a Belkin PF30 Power Console. Now I am just waiting (impatiently) for my Sharp 52" LCD TV (on order). In the meantime, I am using a 20" LCD so I can see the OSD information.

So far, I am happy with my purchase.

Just for recall, I returned the RX-V1600 in exchange for this one. Although very similar, the HDMI on the 1600 was V1.1 compared to this one at V1.2, I also wanted the IPOD connection capability as well as the HDXM. These features are more similar to the V1700, but cost a few hundred more and I really did not have any use for the 3rd zone audio or the 12 volt switches.

In any case, the 9060 seemed like a better value then the 1700, and had the features I wanted for my home theater.

If I really wanted to spend more, I would have jumped to the 2700 to get the better upconverting capability.
post #48 of 487
I was wondering about two things regarding the 6090...

1. I realize there is a XM radio input for the 6090, but I have sirius radio and I was wondering if it is possible to some how plug-in a Sirius radio using their home kit. I presently don't have a home kit nor have I seen one. Has anyone here hooked up a Sirius radio to the 6090?

2. The second thing I was wondering about is; My daughter has a Cowon X5L 20 gig Mp3 player. Is there anyway to hook this up instead of a i-pod? Has anyone here hooked up a MP3 player other than a i-pod?

Any assistance or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Oh and my wife didn't even blink an eye when I came home with the new 6090...though I did bring it home in a new Jeep Grande Cherokee for her, so that might have had something to do with me not being chased around town with a shovel. ...a fellow has got to plan these things out.
post #49 of 487
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Originally Posted by Hazmat View Post

I was wondering about two things regarding the 6090...

1. I realize there is a XM radio input for the 6090, but I have sirius radio and I was wondering if it is possible to some how plug-in a Sirius radio using their home kit. I presently don't have a home kit nor have I seen one. Has anyone here hooked up a Sirius radio to the 6090?

2. The second thing I was wondering about is; My daughter has a Cowon X5L 20 gig Mp3 player. Is there anyway to hook this up instead of a i-pod? Has anyone here hooked up a MP3 player other than a i-pod?

Any assistance or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Oh and my wife didn't even blink an eye when I came home with the new 6090...though I did bring it home in a new Jeep Grande Cherokee for her, so that might have had something to do with me not being chased around town with a shovel. ...a fellow has got to plan these things out.

you got her a jeep and you only got a 6090? you should have least got a RX-V2700 and some speakers...
post #50 of 487
Would have, but the rest of the moola went to fixing the dodge deisel ergo the 6090 had to surffice. I'm glad I got it though, it sounds fantastic and after I figured out what cable went where and fired up the auto programming, it has treated me well so far. I have no complaints regarding it, though it would have been nice to have a usb port for my daughters mp3 player. I wish I could say the same regarding my recent purchase of the Samsung HD-960. It's a great little up-conversion DVD player, but I have been getting these little micro-second blips where the player jumps a few seconds forward with some, not all, of the movies I have been watching. I'm not sure if it's the DVD, DVD player, HDMI cable going into the 6090 or the HDMI cable going out of the receiver into the Sony LCD that is causing it. I think it's switching problem, but not 100% sure.

Have you had any issues similar to this DrPainMD?
post #51 of 487
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Originally Posted by Hazmat View Post

Would have, but the rest of the moola went to fixing the dodge deisel ergo the 6090 had to surffice. I'm glad I got it though, it sounds fantastic and after I figured out what cable went where and fired up the auto programming, it has treated me well so far. I have no complaints regarding it, though it would have been nice to have a usb port for my daughters mp3 player. I wish I could say the same regarding my recent purchase of the Samsung HD-960. It's a great little up-conversion DVD player, but I have been getting these little micro-second blips where the player jumps a few seconds forward with some, not all, of the movies I have been watching. I'm not sure if it's the DVD, DVD player, HDMI cable going into the 6090 or the HDMI cable going out of the receiver into the Sony LCD that is causing it. I think it's switching problem, but not 100% sure.

Have you had any issues similar to this DrPainMD?

Nope, I don't have the 6090
post #52 of 487
I just got off the phone with Samsung Canada and there is an issue with Samsung's HD-960 DVD player.

First off I would like to say this is an absolutely wonderful player and does what is meant to do very, very well. Having said that there is an issue out there regarding this player being used in-conjunction with a 1080p up-conversion receiver, like my Yamaha HTR 6090.

The signals from each perspective unit have a hard time talking to each other and as a result your movie will skip for approximately 1 second. It doesn't happen alot during a movie, but last night when I was watching the new Cars movie from Pixar it did it 5 times. After a while it becomes annoying.

Samsung is aware of the problem with this player and 1080p up-converison receivers. They stated that it is not the Yamaha receiver persay that is causing the problems. It's more to do with two 1080p upconversion units having issues communicating with each other via HDMI. There is no solution as of yet except maybe I'll have to use component cables wired directly from the Samsung into my TV.

I find both units perform well for what they are meant to do, it's just this issue that is irrating me. Anyway thought I would post to point this out if anyone here is thinking of going the same route I did.
post #53 of 487
Sorry to hear of your problem Hazmat, on a side note what speakers are you using?
post #54 of 487
Thanks, I'll eventually get it staightened out. ...though for a moment I did think of having a "let's drive over the DVD player with a truck party (BYOT)". lol I'm using Yamaha NS-P106 speaker set, which is a 6.1, but I'm only using 5 of them at the moment, so I guess that would make it a NS-P105. I must say for tiny little things they really kick out the sound. I'm kind of looking around for new speakers, just not sure what kind yet. I do like the Monitor Audio Bronze & Silver series though. What kind are you using?
post #55 of 487
Im using junk, not worth mentioning. Upgrading soon to Paradigm Monitor series 5 sometime in spring. Only thing I have thats of mentioning is my 25-31PCi SVS Subwoofer. You can see all my crap here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=713778
post #56 of 487
Is it possible to disable the upconversion, my TV (Sharp 46" LCD) and HD DVD player do an awesome job with upconversion? Most of the issues with receivers in this price range appear to be with the upconversion. I would prefer to just disable that on the receiver and let the other devices handle it. I know most receivers have a mode that turns off the upconversion.
post #57 of 487
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Originally Posted by DrPainMD View Post

Im using junk, not worth mentioning. Upgrading soon to Paradigm Monitor series 5 sometime in spring. Only thing I have thats of mentioning is my 25-31PCi SVS Subwoofer. You can see all my crap here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=713778

Thats one huge sub-woofer I like the look of it. Also I forgot about Paradigm. I used to have some and really liked them. The choices we have today to go with our systems sometimes can make things confusing and very difficult to make a choice. I'm going to snoop around and see if I can find any of the Series 5 here in Calgary and have a listen to them. Thx DrPain. PS How has the projector treated u thus far? My wife had suggested maybe that would be the way to go for us in the future.

wirechild,

I'm not sure, but I'm going to fiddle around with my receiver today and see what I can find out. Also I was conversing with 57 over in Digital Home Canada and he gave me a link to monoPrice.com that has HDMI switchers for sale at a great price that would help in providing me with more HDMI hook-ups for my TV, which only has one HDMI hook up. Hopefully the switcher will help me nullify the issues that I have been having with my up-conversion receiver & DVD player. The link is below.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/se...switch&x=0&y=0
post #58 of 487
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Originally Posted by Hazmat View Post

Thats one huge sub-woofer I like the look of it. Also I forgot about Paradigm. I used to have some and really liked them. The choices we have today to go with our systems sometimes can make things confusing and very difficult to make a choice. I'm going to snoop around and see if I can find any of the Series 5 here in Calgary and have a listen to them. Thx DrPain. PS How has the projector treated u thus far? My wife had suggested maybe that would be the way to go for us in the future.

The sub is 16"diameter, 31" tall. Got it from here: http://www.sonicboomaudio.com/ which is the Canadian Auth Reseller for SVS: http://www.svsound.com/

When you have a 97" screen theres no going back. Only wish I had a better projector than what I have(720p or higher). I've had mine for over a year now and its better than anything I had before(27"crt), HD and Xbox360 look awesome!

Sorry don't know anything about HDMi and switchers.

I'm on DHC also, same nickname. Whats yours there?
post #59 of 487
(I'm on DHC also, same nickname. Whats yours there?)

I go by the same moniker there, Hazmat.
post #60 of 487
I just got the HTR-6090- a 1,000 dollar reciever for 200 DOLLARS! The store re-modeled and was getting rid of some inventory. Not bad eh? The only downside is no manual. What does the "Pure direct" button do? Does it only work with certian inputs? Thanks in advance.
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