Tried a sealed sub, not for me. LLT looks to be the way to go, so please chime in.

title mostly says it. i originally tried the sealed enclosure route as i had never owned one. whilest it does ok, it's not going to accomplish what i want unless i have about 3-7 more of them in my living room. original sub contained a single 12" eclipse sw8200 which i ended up damaging the cone from pushing it too hard , my own stupidity there. sub still performs fine, just has some creases in the cone which i am going to see about replacing.

anyhow, since sealed doesnt seem to cut it in my situation a nice behemoth of an LLT seems to be a good choice. i'm looking for the concert level bass, but still want it to be able to hit the low, lows and remain clean. i'm looking at 15" and 12" drivers. i'd really like to try to keep it to one enclosure, two at most for right now. i'm thinking about going with a sonotube design (but not dead set on it) as i like the looks and would like to keep the woodworking to a minimum. also, when it comes time to move the sub(s) i'm sure i'll be thankful for the relative light weight.

the living room is 20ft x 20ft x 8ft and i already own a behringer ep2500 amp.

i'd like to keep the price of the drivers to ~$400. the price of the enclosure is irrelavent to me as i will purchase and build it as i have a few extra bucks and time.

i'd like to go with two to four 15" drivers, but that would involve multiple sonotube enclosures. what i was considering was getting some 32" diameter sonotube and placing three 12" drivers on the bottom cap as illistrated in the very rough paint shop pic below. 32" sonotube is about the biggest that i can fit through my door. this is merely an idea in attempt to have multiple drivers and keep them all contained in a single enclosure so feel free to offer other suggestions. if i have to i will find a place to put multiple enclosures if it will give me the best results.


i was looking at perhaps fixing my current eclipse and then getting two more (should i go with the 32" sonotube design). i was also looking into the dayton dvc series in both the 12" and 15" flavors and the same goes for the titanic series. your other suggestions are also very welcomed here.

so what do you think guys? shoot me your ideas as to what you think would work best to get that kick in the chest, make your heart skip a beat bass.

thanks
guy

i dunno. it looks good to me, but i'm still super green at this and don't interpret the graphs as well as you guys. basically, i should look at the SPLtot line graphed? all the other lines are what add up to make the SPLtot, right?

i thought the one eclipse would satisfy me and it didn't. so, i'm going to rely more on you guys this time around. would three 12's (of any brand) be enough to fill 3200cuft of space with very loud, clean bass? or should i rule them out and look at only 15's. what program are you using to make your graphs derek?

id rather have two to four 15's than one, i don't think a single 15 would suffice either.

look nice and at a very reasonable price. i would be willing to guinea pig them. i'd love to have a couple 18's pounding away.

yeah, but the ssd's are cheap enough, plus i'll have to buy 12' of sonotube anyhow so why not build two. one to start with and go on and build the second enclosure then slap another sub in there a little later. if ones good, then two is better.

(edit) - wow, the prices are shipping included. even better. i will deffinately give these a go unless someone knows something better.

those deffinately are cheap. i could get 4 of them for the price of one fi. but, how would they compare?

by "it" are you referring to the 3 eclipse? also, when i used the sonocalculator and plugged in what you mentioned, it showed me needing 62" long piece of 32" diameter sonotube. perhaps i did something wrong.


keep the recommendations coming guys. some excellent options are being presented.

willd, do you have a link for the rlp15?

i want the loud output, but i think i'd be willing to sacrifice some of it for the deeper extension. that's why i went sealed originally, because i've always heard that sealed enclosure gives the most accurate bass reproduction. and whilest the sub does great, i'm just asking too much of it for it's size to fill my room with the bass levels i seek. 3 more of the eclipses would likely sound unbelievable, but also becomes somewhat expensive if i were to buy 3 more dayton enclosures and then a second amp to power them with.

(edit) - steve, you dont think the fi 18's would perform as good or better than the rpl? also, i like the idea of 125db, just depends on how much it cost to get there.

yeah, i knew that. i got it mixed up with another driver. simple brain fart.

http://www.ficaraudio.com/

ssd and q series are the ones that were recommended