Sony BRAVIA KDL46XBR2 - User Settings/calibration - Page 41

thanx for the reply EADGBE

Yeah Petmic, i think i used the same calibration for my XBox Elite as well.

Gosh, i cannot wait til football season, i have absolutely no reason to leave the house. My wife loves the TV and gave me two thumbs up and a kiss. It just reaffirms the purchase even more.

I will be posting pics in a couple of minutes, and the pics don't do it justice.

Check these out.

^Nice pictures, what kind of programming do you have?

I have Comcast...........i just wish all networks broadcast in 1080i. You can tell the difference in picture quality from ESPN HD and Discovery HD or NBC/CBS HD

^Definitely ESPN just isn't on par with those other networks. Question, does Comcast/Time Warner also give off a lot of compression artifacts? I'm sure they do at least a little bit but nearly as much as Dish Network.

I don't know because i haven't viewed HD on Time Warner or Dish Network. I want to try Verizon FIOS but they not servicing my neighborhood yet.

I'm a little late to the Sony party but I just wanted to also thank Petmic10 for sharing his calibration settings. I picked up a 52XBR2 LCD a couple of weeks ago and these threads and Petmic's settings in particular have been very helpful. Now my Xbox 360 and upscaling DVD player look great. I hope to get a PS3 soon so that I can see some real 1080p content thru the set. Thanks again.

You can play 360 in 1080p, full pixel via the component input on the 52XBR.

I'd noticed that in the manual and have been thinking about seeing what the 360 looks like thru component. It would give me more options for tweaking the picture; but on the other hand VGA looks just fine. What was your experience? I'd think that VGA would cause less color bleeding.

I thought component 1080p & full pixel was great. I'm really missing that now with my 5054.

Hey guys,

This is my first post but i have been reading this thread for a while. Just got my 46xbr2 yesterday and it is outstanding. I am usng Petmic10's settings and it looks fantastic!!!!!! Does anyone kow what the noise reduction feature is used for? Everyone seems to have it off in most cases. Also, i am using a progressive scan dvd player (cant buy upconvert or blue ray for a while). Will my tv upconvert my progressive scan player at all or is there some feature in particular that needs to be turned on to get the most out of it? Also, should i use the DRC mode1 at all times? Thanks alot guys.

Noise Reduction removes the random static you see all over the screen
Leave it off, it only makes the whole picture less sharp.

In order to get progressive scan from your player it needs to be hooked up to the tv via component or HDMI (the better if available). As far as your progressive scan player is concerned you only can use drc mode 1, drc mode 2 needs a 1080i source . then you need to play with the drc palette. Look around this thread for various settings and stick to which one works best.

For those who have 1080i or 1080p sources you should be using full pixel.
Think of these tvs as a computer monitor. Computer monitors don't scale, they show everything right to the border. When You zoom on the picture your worsening the picture quality cause your stretching it, full pixel is the opposite.

Thank you so much for taking the time to put these up for other people to utilize. You are the man

When I get the HD-DVD player for Xbox, I'm assuming that none of the settings you posted at that link will change for watching movies on my 480p dvds...

Would I use these same settings at the above link for the PS3 on my KDL46XBR3? I'll finally have the PS3 on the 18th. Thankful for price drops

Thank you again!

P.S. Wait a minute...

This one or this one?

Petmic10 recommended the first link (HDMI settings, not xbox 360) for the PS3. He also recommended to boost the color to something in the 50's or 60's like he did with the xbox 360 component settings ("58") .

Thank you for that He has the 1st calibration I linked to at 45 and the 2nd one at 48... I'm confused.

Thank you

For your PS3, when you do get it, pickup a HDMI cable for it. After you plug it all in, set your PS3 to 1080p (it's in the manual how to do so), then use the following settings

Petmic10 settings

change the sharpness to 35 (this was advice petmic10 gave a while after the settings), ignore the DRC thing and enjoy.

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Yes, those are the settings I still use and they still are fantastic.

When this tv is sent a 1080p signal, DRC mode is disabled so I would bump
sharpness to 35 as stated above.

I just bought a KDL 46 XBR2. The manual which came with the set does not explain in detail how to adjust the set. Does anyone know where I can find more detailed instructions how to adjust for the best picture quality? My set has cloud (but tolerable). What settings can I use to minimize the cloud?

Verizon will come to install fiber TV to my home. Do I need to rent the set-top box (rent $10/mo)? Or is the set "cable ready"?

I will appreciate your answers.

What does calibration mean? Does it mean that RED=xxx Kelvin, etc?
What equipment is needed for the calibration? Can the owner do it himself?

For some reason, my Xbox Elite had two HDMI cables, so I'm hoping I can use the extra one for the PS3 when it arrives next Friday.

Can't wait to see how it all looks and sounds. My Denon 2807 arrives the same day

P.S. Thank you petmic for the valued help you've provided many users on this forum with your calibration settings.

suomynona, you know the advice i gave you on your PS3, do those exact same things for your XBOX 360 cause your using a HDMI cable for your 360 right?
2 HDMI cables in the box?

awesome. thank you. changed it to 35.

yeah, it was surprising. hopefully someone isn't missing one in theirs.

I'd like to hear your experiences with Full Pixel mode. I am also using this mode, because it does indeed show valid picture information beyond what Normal mode shows. You can see that some of the picture is cut out in Normal mode when you switch back and forth between these two settings with a still image on the display.

BUT - there are some times when Full Pixel mode shows some garbage info along the top edge of the screen - a sequence of white lines that blink on and off - looks like a digital code of some sort, a few pixels in height. It's not on all of the time, just during some commercials, and mostly on SD channels. I tried to look for a way in the Service Menu to change the vertical height a couple of pixels to get rid of these lines, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do this.

Do you see these white lines as well, or could it be my cable box (Comcast)?

Thanks tpfaz for bringing that up. I just noticed that problem on my 360. Hey suomynona, for your Xbox 360 are you using Full pixel, if you are can you tell me is your picture underscanned, like do you see like junk on the sides or is it perfect. I'm using a monster vga cable and i have a lot of underscanning and distortions on the side.

I'm seeing the underscanning with an HDMI connection between my set top box and the TV, so I don't know if this problem is limited to VGA. I'd love to find a way to adjust the vertical position/height to move this stuff out of the image. Or, if this really is a problem with the signal source, that might also lead to a solution.

My experience with Full Pixel (FP) on my 52, so far:

Fundamentally, I want to watch everything in FP mode, to avoid that re-scaling the TV does to 1080 inputs when in 'Normal' mode. It does that re-scaling well mind you, but I know (and occasionally can see depending, on how close I am sitting) some aliasing and artifacts that are introduced by that re-scaling. In FP mode, these small but additional visual defects are not created since there is no re-scaling. Also (and not trivially), I want to see everything I've paid for in my source content. In Normal mode, I miss some of that.

For DVDs and HD-DVDs, I always, always, always use Full Pixel. That's because my Tosh HD-XA2 player totally rocks, as it does the best upconverting of standard DVDs to 1080p around, at least for anything even remotely close to it's price. Obviously, HD-DVDs are output at 1080p. So there no reason not to use FP with that source. Yeah, I have to 'reboot' the player once in a while...but I can live with that for all the other goodness it has.

For my cable (a Tivo S3 with Comcast digital service), I pretty much leave it on FP all the time, too. Yes, to avoid the same 1080 re-scaling and see-all-the-content reasons. However, I do see that white 'chatter' line at the top of the screen or a line up the left side, usually on network TV channels over cable, but that's only on a few channels. I find that after a while, I really don't notice it that much. BUT it does annoy my wife, so when we watch those channels together, I'll tend to change to Normal mode. But less and less often, I've noticed...I think she's adjusting, too.

Bottom line is that for any HD content, FP is the way to go, and I pretty much just leave it in FP and Watch the Show. And the set still blows me away almost every time I turn it on. ;-)

Cheers!
-3Gun

NB: With my settings, SD is certainly watchable on my set, but most of the time there is no mistaking SD for HD content. However occasionally there are some SD channels and content where I do actually hit the display button to check, it looks that good...

NB2: Don't go into your service menu and do ANYTHING. Honestly, you don't have the calibration & measurement equipment nor the know-how to do anything but harm messing about in the service menu. And even if you could "adjust" the image up a few pixels to hide the few lines of CC data at the top of the screen, that would result in you also hiding those few pixels of image when the signal isn't carrying the CC data - which defeats the purpose of FP. So don't waste your time...either learn to live with the lines, or just switch to Normal mode when you want to hide the lines and live with the overscan/re-scaling.