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post #31 of 2813
O.k. is ANYONE having issues with artifacting and muddy images with this set. The scaler is either broken or it is total crap. The only signals that look good are true native 1080i signals on some of the HD channel(and these do look good). Even upconverted images on HD channels look like crap(was watching kill bill on TNT and almost kicked the t.v.). Normal nonhd channels are just unbearable. They look very "soft" and blurred. Is this everyones experience or do I have a bad set??? Also, is anyone running theirs though cablecard..maybe this is the problem??
post #32 of 2813
I just got the 940 HD and the tech who installed the set told me it was ok just out of the box-no special settings, etc. The picture looks great to me but now you have me wondering if he was wrong?
post #33 of 2813
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Originally Posted by adam771 View Post

O.k. is ANYONE having issues with artifacting and muddy images with this set. The scaler is either broken or it is total crap. The only signals that look good are true native 1080i signals on some of the HD channel(and these do look good). Even upconverted images on HD channels look like crap(was watching kill bill on TNT and almost kicked the t.v.). Normal nonhd channels are just unbearable. They look very "soft" and blurred. Is this everyones experience or do I have a bad set??? Also, is anyone running theirs though cablecard..maybe this is the problem??


Adam,
Have you turned the set to 'Pure' mode? If not, do so. Also, remember the GIGO credo. If the cable or satellite signal coming in to the set is crap, it will still look crap when displayed. I use a combination of Directv, OTA and basic cable, (which also gives me my locals in HD). HD looks spectacular, even the upconverts on TNT-HD look good. A good SD feed whether from Directv or my Cox cable, (their digital channels), also looks good, but of course nothing like true HD or the HD-Lite that Directv foists upon us. Analogue cable looks terrible on my system however. When in 'Pure' mode, use D-Nice's basic video settings that can be found here within the many Pioneer threads; you may even find more extensive settings specific to the Elites.
Bish
post #34 of 2813
I picked my 1140 up yesterday and spent the evening getting everything set up and running.

I'm one happy camper, HD, DT and SD all look great on this set.

I was bummed when I first fired it up because the SD looked like mud. But after I let it do a channel scan, made some basic setting changes, from various recommendations on this site, and then turned off a large share of the automatic "adjustments" the picture is super!

The only time things look bad is with a bad channel feed, but otherwise great.

My cable system passes network HD and DT in the clear and the built in tuner can receive the cable HD without a cable box or CableCard. I'll be contacting my provider tomorrow to arrange a switch to digital services and get the CableCard installed which will add more HD channels.

It's eye opening to do a side by side comparison of OTA stations analog SD vs DT as my system puts them side by side in the channel line up. Flipping between the two is interesting, to say the least.

I'm still in play mode with the various settings, seeing what they all do and so on, but I did dial the contrast down to 27 from the factory setting of 40.
That alone helped tremendously without compromising picture quality.

I'll be doing a rough calibration with the Digital Video Essentials in a few days, but right now I'm just enjoying this new toy!

Ted
post #35 of 2813
Still waiting on my 1140...
post #36 of 2813
I'm a newbie so please be patient with me. It seems to me that on 940 the PURE mode is the way to go but what is the difference between the PURE and the factory setting out of the box? If it does make that much of a difference I'll use D-Nice's settings for 200hr burn in. But can anyone explain to me what is difference because right now I still have not adjusted any of the picture setting (left at factory setting) because that is what I was told by the installer and don't want to screw anything up. The picture looks fine to me right now and it always shows 1080i on the 8300hd although when watching some HD channels from a local outlet feed (NBC, etc.) I do get the side bars. Is this right?. Can anyone decipher this for me?
post #37 of 2813
Local stations are not HD except maybe 2 in the nation. Local network stations relay the HD of its' network. Local news, etc. are done in a non-HD format with side bars. Some network programs are also in SD. If picture looks fine to you, leave it alone for time being. You can turn down brightness and contrast for first 100 hours but remember what your present settings are. Remember what is important is what looks good to you and not to others. But do not stray to far from 'dead' center on settings.
post #38 of 2813
Thanx
post #39 of 2813
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Originally Posted by bond51 View Post

I'm a newbie so please be patient with me. It seems to me that on 940 the PURE mode is the way to go but what is the difference between the PURE and the factory setting out of the box? If it does make that much of a difference I'll use D-Nice's settings for 200hr burn in. But can anyone explain to me what is difference because right now I still have not adjusted any of the picture setting (left at factory setting) because that is what I was told by the installer and don't want to screw anything up. The picture looks fine to me right now and it always shows 1080i on the 8300hd although when watching some HD channels from a local outlet feed (NBC, etc.) I do get the side bars. Is this right?. Can anyone decipher this for me?

Pure mode turns off most if not all of the video processing software built into the set; it looks much better without it, imho. You should turn down the contrast at least from the factory settings for the first 200 hours. I would strongly recommend D-Nice's settings; when you become used to them you will see that they give a much more 'natural' look to the picture. When watching SD material on the set, especially for the first 200 hours, use the 'Size' button on the Pioneer remote to stretch the picture to fill the whole screen. This will lessen the small chance of 'burn-in' early in the panels life cycle.
Bish
post #40 of 2813
Thread Starter 
Been out of town, but I'm back and excited for the new TV season to start really using the 1140. How are you guys going to mount it? I'm going with the Sanus VMSA wall mount that is only 2.5" thick when up against the wall. Still in burn-in period, but Discovery HD is just stunning, sometimes I just leave it on there all day to burn-in and just drool at the picture.

I'm pretty sure there are some other new owners coming on board, so hopefully we can get some more version for Home Gallery and build dates.

Wohoo, I was getting lonley.

Russ
post #41 of 2813
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Originally Posted by russwong View Post

Been out of town, but I'm back and excited for the new TV season to start really using the 1140. How are you guys going to mount it? I'm going with the Sanus VMSA wall mount that is only 2.5" thick when up against the wall. Still in burn-in period, but Discovery HD is just stunning, sometimes I just leave it on there all day to burn-in and just drool at the picture.

I'm pretty sure there are some other new owners coming on board, so hopefully we can get some more version for Home Gallery and build dates.

Wohoo, I was getting lonley.

Russ

Mines mounted on a Salamander triple cabinet using their flat panel mounting kit. A very sturdy arrangement that keeps the cabling nice and tidy.

The cable company is coming Friday to install the CableCard so I can get access to Discovery HD, etc.
For the time being I leave it on the PBS HD feed quite a bit for break in purposes. But I mix it up. Spent last evening on the CBS HD feed to see what that was like. Watched a lot of the HD sports feeds on Sunday. Absolutely no hints of any IR showing up even with the Sunday dose of prolonged graphics, tickers, etc.
DVD's are super through the HDMI cable. I'm feeding it a 1080i signal but haven't experimented with the resolution settings on the DVD player too much. 1080i looked the best of the various resolutions I could feed it on a quick test.

I'm still in awe of the HD picture quality. The SD is good, but HD spoils a person.

I haven't had a chance to play with the Home Media yet. I have to run a cable from my router to the panel, which will take some work. Fortunately the two rooms are side by side.

So far, nothing but solid performance from the 1140. No, glitches, hitches or picture problems like macro blocking, pixelation, freezing, etc. It seems to handle fast motion very well and while there's some degree of jaggies on some material, there's nothing that's been really objectionable.
I haven't deeply explored the settings for NR and such to see what effect those would have.

Ted
post #42 of 2813
wondering if you had a choice between FHD1 or the 1140?
post #43 of 2813
Just got my 1140 from Magnolia. Convinced myself that the 1140 will do better with standard definition (SD) and almost as well with HD. From an authorized dealer, The FHD is not worth double the price. If cost is no object, get the FHD as it is the best picture on the planet right now. I am watching at 10 feet and at 10 feet, I am told it is very, very difficult to tell the difference between 740 and 1080 resolution. At 5 or 6 feet, it is easy to see that the 1080 set is better. Hope this helps a bit.
post #44 of 2813
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by flatbush View Post

wondering if you had a choice between FHD1 or the 1140?

As a matter of fact, those were the two panels I was comparing. My contact was able to get me an amazing deal on the FHD1. Much lower then the MSRP, so I was posed with the question of: 1140HD or FHD1 for "only" $2500 more then the 1140HD.

In my case, my viewing distance is greater then 7', so I might not have benefited from the 1080p. The additional media center function on the 1140 was a plus for me. Also, I'm still holding out hope for SED in 2-5 years.....

That's why I went with the 1140HD, but I loved the picture of the FHD1, it's just awesome from the 2 times that I saw it.
post #45 of 2813
I had the same idea in regards to the 1140 and FHD1, I found a deal on the FDH1 for about 1000 more but I do like the media deal also.
post #46 of 2813
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by essogas View Post

^^^ Russ let me know what works better for this as I don't have my set yet! When I tried at the store, I used HDMI and I couldn't fill the screen perfectly. Either it was a little over scanned or ua little nderscanned but not perfectly fit on the screen.

So... this is what I've done and figured out, but I'm still not sure I know which way is the best... I have a AGP Nvidia 6600GT.

DVI -> HDMI directly to the TV - Computer recognizes the TV as a TV and I can select some present configurations for 1080i or 720p. Then I can use Nvidia's drivers to adjust the overscan/underscan to fit the screen.

VGA directly to the TV - 1360x768 resolution fits perfectly on the screen.

Here are my observations:

PC Input on the 1140 has different picture adjustments then the other inputs. Seems to be less granular adjustments. Seems to be only an R G B adjustment, vs all the other options. I'm assuming, that's because you would adjust picture settings through the video driver on the HTPC.

Text does appear crisper and easier to read via VGA compared to HDMI.

I still haven't analayzed HD programs yet via the HTPC.

Does that make sense? Or am I way off base?
post #47 of 2813
just had my 1140 delivered. I'm upgrading from the 1120. Looking forward to getting it hooked up tonight. I'll post some pics later

marty
post #48 of 2813
Got delivery of my 1140 today. Am totally pleased. WOW what a picture in HD and the SD picture is pretty good. I replaced a Samsung 43 inch DLP which in fact was pretty good. The 1140 is just better.
post #49 of 2813
What is the media center that the 1140 has?
post #50 of 2813
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by paris_tn View Post

What is the media center that the 1140 has?

It's a DLNA compliant device and has some Microsoft Play for sure certification. Looking at the info screen, it seems to be from a company called Digion and Pioneer.

That's about all I can tell from now. It connects to any Windows XP pc which has windows media connect and seems to work fairly well from what I've done.

http://www.digion.com/
post #51 of 2813
Ok thanks. I want to see the 1140 in action and maybe soon i can get to look at it.
post #52 of 2813
Quote:
Originally Posted by flatbush View Post

I had the same idea in regards to the 1140 and FHD1, I found a deal on the FDH1 for about 1000 more but I do like the media deal also.

A few people mentioned they were able to get or negotiated a good deal on the FHD1. Why is this? No demand? Big markup on the FHD1?
post #53 of 2813
Russ-

Thanks for the information on hooking up the HTPC to the 1140, very useful! Now I just have to decide house or 1140 first..lol All of these wonderful posts are torturing me!

-DrPyro
post #54 of 2813
Thread Starter 
So the 1140HD can take a 1080p input via HDMI. Anyone know how I would configure that on my HTPC? I'm trying to see what are my options to feed this thing!

As a side note, season premiers in HD were amazing last night... I didn't know what to watch... I saw Smith, I even watched part of Dancing with the Stars... man...

Anyways, great to see the new owners. When you're done fiddling, can you post your build dates and Home Media Gallery versions? Just curious.

Thanks!
post #55 of 2813
Does anyone know the "dynamic" settings of the 940hd? They are greyed-out.
post #56 of 2813
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by omeletpants View Post

Does anyone know the "dynamic" settings of the 940hd? They are greyed-out.

From what I understand, according to the manual is that the plasma adjusts the setting for you as it sees optimal, so there is no tuning of any other settings, because it's being done by the TV, hence everything is grayed out when you are in dynamic mode.
post #57 of 2813
Just received a 940hd today and here are my observations and question:

-The blacks on the Pio are very nice

-I would describe the colors as lush or rich compared to other plasmas. There seems to be a red hue that I have adjusted down via the yellow/magenta control

-Objects are a little less crsip compared to other sets. I had a similar issue with focus on a Sony CRT 34XBR960. There were two settings in the XBR service menu that fixed that problem and the picture became very focused.

-Is there a similar setting on the Pio 940hd? I have no intention of going into the service menu and am having UMR calibrate this set in December. I just want to know that there is something that can be done to improve this focus issue
post #58 of 2813
Quote:
Originally Posted by omeletpants View Post

Just received a 940hd today and here are my observations and question:

-The blacks on the Pio are very nice

-I would describe the colors as lush or rich compared to other plasmas. There seems to be a red hue that I have adjusted down via the yellow/magenta control

-Objects are a little less crsip compared to other sets. I had a similar issue with focus on a Sony CRT 34XBR960. There were two settings in the XBR service menu that fixed that problem and the picture became very focused.

-Is there a similar setting on the Pio 940hd? I have no intention of going into the service menu and am having UMR calibrate this set in December. I just want to know that there is something that can be done to improve this focus issue

Are you in Pure mode? If not, try that first.
Bish
post #59 of 2813
Thinking about the 1140HD, but I need to know the exact height when it is on the stand. Can anyone here help? Measurement with stand is not on Pio's website! Thanks!
post #60 of 2813
I also am planning on purchasing the 1140HD and have a stand question. Is the mounting configuration/design on the back of the 1140HD the same as it was on the back of the 1130HD? I am looking at purchasing a Chief Mfg. PDR-2081B (B is only for Black) dual arm mount (this is the mount specified for the 1130HD) and want to make sure I order the correct mount. Also, any site sponsors a good source for this equipment?

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
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