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I agree, the results were as it should be although I suppose now Kirstie will get all the VFTW votes which along with her fans may keep her out of the bottom in the next results show.
I've heard Susan Boyle before and she sounded quite good, last night she was just awful. From her first off key note she just sounded way off. I feel sorry for Donny who looked like he knew what was going on but just kept singing like a trooper.

I really thought that Bristol would hang around somewhat longer considering all the support (outnumbering the hate) she receives on the DTWS board. Was surprised and pleased that the issue is cleared up. All it took was an additional judge so the point differential was just enough.. I don't think Kristi survives another week. She's going to be at the bottom and kill her team's scores in any free style competition. Scratching my head that Gilles chose her over Melissa or Apolo.

This season has been spectacular with the dancing getting better with each passing week. In regard to Val and Kelley, there is certainly "that vibe" coming off of them, especially after their beautiful Lyrical routine. They seemed to be totally lost in each other in a way that went well beyond the typical "in the moment" emotions that all actors and dancers experience.

I wonder if Carrie Ann suffered a head injury after her fall...last night she penalized Shawn/Derek for a 'lift' that I never saw (she simply ran and leaped into Derek's arms), yet gave Sabrina/Louis a 10 on their waltz, which I thought was good, but not THAT good.

I loved the 'Call Me Maybe' team freestyle, which was reminiscent of the choreographed results show pro numbers; the 'Gangnam Style' dance, while a bit funny, wasn't quite as good dance-wise.

I thought both Carrie Anne and Len jobbed Shawn and Derek last night. Maybe a little auto-correcting going on keeping the scores bunched up. Before eliminations they each dance again with a slight advantage for Sabrina and Louis...major disadvantage for Kelly and Val.

Based on how they score the more dances they have the better (easier) it is for Kelly and Val to make up for their (solo) low score. In fact the team dance wiped out half their deficit.

My understanding of ballroom rules is that it definitely was a "lift". My understanding is that the actual rule is that "both feet can never leave the floor for more than a single beat". But kind of like US law, there is "case law" (judge's rulings) that have interpreted that rule a little looser because most people can jump high enough on their own to have both feet off the floor for more than a single beat and they didn't want that to be illegal. So the judges interpretation is that if both feet are off the floor and the dancer's partner is aiding them in keeping their feet off the floor in any way, then it's a lift.

So in this particular case, Shawn had both feet off the floor and she could not have held that position without the aid of her partner, so it's a lift. Now if Shawn had landed in Derek's arms and with one foot on the floor simultaneously then it would have been legal. But both feet off the floor while touching your partner is a no-no.

So if your on a floor that has a wall and you grab onto something (not your partner) and lift yourself in the air for two beats is that cheating?

Not sure. I doubt that the issue has ever come in competition because in competitions the "floor" is usually in the middle of the room surround by an open space for the judges and chairs for spectators so there's never a wall close enough to the floor to be an issue.

I think the single beat rule was trying to ban things like cartwheels and walkovers and handstands which would keep your feet off the floor for more than a beat as well as banning lifts, so I'm guessing that using any foreign object to lift yourself would also be illegal.

I watched the show last night but after awhile I found my attention waning. The concept of performing classic Latin and Ballroom dances to country songs is too far fetched for my tastes. The dancing was excellent overall but trying to shoe horn them into music so far removed from the genres just didn't work for me. The one memorable moment was Apollo and Karina waltzing to Rascal Flatts' Skin (Sara Beth), a heart wrenching, beautiful song about a high school girl who has just been diagnosed with Leukemia. The music video that was done by the group was stunning and Apollo and Karina really "sold" (and I hesitate to use that word since both of them have been touched by cancer in their lives) the emotion of the piece and their movement on the floor was effortless. It wasn't in the same league as Tice Dioro's "Breast Cancer" routine on SYTYCD but it did tug at the heart strings in its own way.

+ 1. I couldn't overcome the disconnect either, but then I have an aversion for country twang and pop music in general that has twang artificially injected to reach that demographic. While the scores really don't matter that much from the judges for the popular couples (since they are so close), I do think Len is playing an annual game with Derek. Underscoring just to get a point across on generally superior dances. Hopefully, it won't backfire. I also thought Kirsti was overscored again, then getting the bonus...hmmm.

While that is true they did say Apollo&Karina were not necessarily in the bottom two.......my guess and hope is Kirsti and Max were but for whatever reason the producers are trying to manipulate the voting public and they didn't want to keep them to the end.

My sentiments exactly! Even Sabrina's "worst" dances were miles ahead of Kirstie's "best". Makes me wonder about the minds of the voting viewers (maybe they think the heated exchanges between Kirstie and Maks during rehearsal make for good TV?)...

When the last three were waiting for the results, I thought that, for sure, Melissa would go. After Apollo and Karina's stunning waltz on Monday, I couldn't imagine them leaving but when Melissa was safe, I had no idea as to who was getting the black ball. When Sabrina got the boot, I thought that the "shocked and stunned" look on the judges faces was a bit overplayed. I mean, it was her or Apollo so what were they expecting? Was Sabrina so superior to Apollo that it was a no brainer? After Monday night, no way. In regard to Sabrina, I can't put my finger on exactly why, but I get the feeling that the viewers just don't see her as "likeable" as many of the other celebs. It's a mystery because she seems to be a very nice kid and very talented. I also felt that there was a false equivalency beiing drawn between her elimination this season and on her original season. When she was bounced then, it was a shock because she was vastlly superior to many of the contestants who survived. This season, however, the overall level of performance has been so high that any daylight between the the celebs has been been minimal (except for Kirstie who is very entertaining, a sympathetic character and funny). BTW, what did everyone think of the lip lock that Val laid on Kelly at the end of their dance on Monday? As Louis told them "get a room".

I thought Apollo and Karina technically executed the dance well but I saw no emotive chemistry between them. His face seemed expressionless to me.

Anybody else feel this way?

I have a friend who watches this show (I won't go near it with a 10 foot pole) and he is pissed at how the eliminations happen.

when the public gets to vote, it becomes largely a popularity contest. sabrina was voted out early in her first go round against a weaker field so i don't know why people would be surprised. the judges are going to be surprised because they gave her high scores. she's obviously a good dancer but for whatever reason she doesn't measure high on the popularity meter.

I haven't quite figured out why people don't like her. She has a good smile and seems to enjoy it. Kelly Monaco dances well but does not have any charisma yet she survives.

I think it's mostly demographics. This season I'm guessing Shawn Johnson is taking a lot of her votes. Also, she is kind of a tweener. She is 28 but I would have guessed 18... remember the fans voted her in so she does have a few. Just not enough there to draw votes from others (to her)...

My take is if they can dance (to any degree) they vote for who they relate to. Later on after so many of their favorites get voted off those voters end up voting for the best dancer (to a large degree). Of course there are always exceptions to the rule.
Edited by Charles R - 10/31/12 at 12:05pm

Brooke Burke-Charvet revealed in a video yesterday that she has thyroid cancer and will undergo surgery soon:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57547352/brooke-burke-charvets-thyroid-cancer-is-it-common/ (watch the video here)

Please keep Brooke in your prayers...