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post #5341 of 5460
Yes, I got the "Clutch Cargo" reference, Humdinger70, so you weren't the only one.

Throughout the show they said nothing about last week's gaffe, and I was sure that they were going to ignore it and use the bad vote from October 14.  But they did know, and in the end they decided on the same remedy that I thought of, except for saying nothing about a double elimination to fit the season into the allotted schedule.  Perhaps instead they'll have four finalists in the closing week?

Bergeron did mention that the wrong numbers were displayed only in the Eastern and Central feed; that explains why Humdinger70 didn't know about them before seeing my post.
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Weekly BUMP for tonight's performance/elimination show.

Because of the phone number foul-up two weeks ago, there are still eight contestants left (no elimination last week). The total scores for the contestants will be the combination of the audience vote from last week, the judges scores from last week and the judges scores from this week.

By the way, the return of the team dances tonight.
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Show over on the west coast.

Although not mentioned until the end, the judges scores from last week were factored in with this week's judges scores.

Max score from individual dance performances was 29 (once Len was the one who messed it up, once it was Bruno). Carrie Ann actually broke her 10 paddle! Gave it to Jack&Cheryl. (Don't worry, they have plenty in reserve).

Team dances were #SpookyBomBom (zombie inspired) and #FoxingAwesome (using some song popular on YouTube).

#SpookyBomBom got 27 points, #FoxingAwesome got 30. And the way the teams were arranged, all members of #FoxingAwesome were declared safe.

Final two couple left standing - Bill&Emma (last on judges score board with all scores factored in) and Nicole&Sasha. Thought it over for Bill.

However, eliminated were....

Nicole&Sasha. Guess the Jersey Shore people didn't support her that much anymore.

I almost forgot!! Guest judge next week (for Len): Cher!
Edited by humdinger70 - 10/29/13 at 12:32am
post #5344 of 5460
Just as two weeks ago they announced early that the celebrity of the trailing couple was, last night they announced early that the trailing couple were a member of Team Spooky Bom Bom.

Now, I'm not spoiler-sensitive, but dropping clues when the scores are not yet fully determined is a rotten thing to do to the contestants.  Those in the classification that includes the trailing couple are as likely to be disheartened as to try harder (weren't they already going to strive for their best?), and those who are not will slack off.

Viewers who are sensitive to spoilers can't be pleased about it either, and that would apply even if the hints are leaked after the result is definite.

I think it's a bad practice and can see no upside to it.

Ah well: for the rest of the season we won't be hearing the announcer call Farber "Sæsh-a" with a flat A, but he'll still be calling the last dance Farber did with Polizzi the "sæm-ba" and still calling Bleu's partner "Smeuh-noff."  (I know he's doing a non-rhotic accent but he could get the vowel right and say "Smih-noff.")

Also, now we know that flab is not the reason we'll never see Osbourne dance shirtless.

With no double elimination yet, they're still one remaining couple ahead of the original plan.  Perhaps there will be four finalists instead of three in the closing week?
 
Edited by dattier - 10/29/13 at 3:41pm
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However, eliminated were....

Nicole&Sasha. Guess the Jersey Shore people didn't support her that much anymore.

 

I think the show as less than a dozen 18-49 viewers. :) They don't even know who she is... although it was a shame to see her go. I thought she stole the team dance and overall talent wise had an outside shot.

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Weekly BUMP for tonight's show.

Special guest judge (and performer too) - Cher.
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Late night west coast recap.

Cher did two numbers and two costume changes. All the dances were done to songs of Cher (or Sonny&Cher). As some of the celebs pointed out, Cher's judging was more likely looking at the overall performance than critiquing specific moves.

Individual dances followed by dance-off challenge. Top scoring team from individual dance was safe from doing the challenge and guaranteed a spot in next week's show. That was Amber&Derek for their rumba. They scored 28 points - three other couples scored 27. Three rounds of challenges - winner of each round (determined by judges) got 3 bonus points for their judges scores.

Challenge:
Corbin&Karina vs. Elizabeth&Val in the cha-cha - won by Corbin&Karina.

Leah&Tony vs. Brant&Peta in the rumba - won by Leah&Tony.

Jack&Cheryl vs. Bill&Emma in the disco - won by Jack&Cheryl.

After the last challenge dance, Tom let Bill read the Teleprompter. He got two words in before he and Emma started screaming - yes, they were safe. Again. eek.gifrolleyes.gif

The last two couples standing were: Jack&Cheryl and Brant&Peta.

And eliminated are: Brant&Peta.

Next week - Len returns, plus return of the trio dances (one celeb and two pro partners).
post #5348 of 5460
I was a little sad to see Daugherty and Murgatroyd eliminated; I always liked watching their dances and was hoping they'd be around all the way to the finals.

The announcer reverted to "arj'ntighn" for Bleu and Smirnoff's (excuse me, Smeuhnoff's) Argentine tango.

Bergeron and Burke-Charvet introducted the contestants and pros at the beginning of the show only by their first names.  It came off like a local teen dance party show from the 1950s, or the Mickey Mouse Club (1950s edition).

Cher gave everyone nines except for an eight to Engvall and Slater.  Tonioli's ten to Riley and Hough was the only score all evening that was neither an eight nor a nine.

Still no double elimination to catch up with the original schedule, so perhaps there will be four couples in the finals.
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Hi there, with today being a holiday, I almost forgot.

Weekly BUMP for tonight's performance/elimination show. Two dances for each of the six remaining couples, their own individual dance, plus a trio dance (couple plus one additional pro).
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Well it's over on the west coast...

Individual dances - Jack&Cheryl at the top (29 points), Bill&Emma at the bottom (21).

Trio dances - two perfect 30s - Corbin&Karina, with Witney (Fosse inspired jazz) and Elizabeth&Val, with Gleb (salsa). Bill&Emma, with Peta were last (21).

Last two couples not knowing their status - Elizabeth&Val and Bill&Emma. Bill looked resigned and probably relieved that he thought it was over for him.

SURPRISE! Eliminated were Liz&Val (who had second highest combined score of judges points, 56). Bill&Emma looked totally shocked they were safe and moving to the semi-finals.

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I'm sorry, but the 'Vote For The Worst' contingent has gotten out of hand. DWTS needs to implement some sort of vote control (like SYTYCD does) to prevent this from happening. I think Bill has enjoyed his time on the show and with Emma, but even he believes he should be gone. Unfortunately, the WFTW group disagrees. If he does wind up winning, there will be a lot of controversy about it.
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[RANT]
I'm sorry, but the 'Vote For The Worst' contingent has gotten out of hand. DWTS needs to implement some sort of vote control (like SYTYCD does) to prevent this from happening. I think Bill has enjoyed his time on the show and with Emma, but even he believes he should be gone. Unfortunately, the WFTW group disagrees. If he does wind up winning, there will be a lot of controversy about it.
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Totally agree, for this and other reasons this has been my least favorite season by far, going back to season 1. When someone like Bill makes it to the semi finals, well the whole thing is a joke :(

At this rate the finals will have Bill, Leann and Jack :eek: of course IMO Corbin is tops but this season that seems to matter very little.....

 

I really really believe shows like this should vote on who the viewer wants to GO(not who they want to stay), IMO this would help stop the very odd eliminations we see going on. I mean you may have a few VFTW voters who would vote for Elizabeth but they would be  far outweighed by the majority of people that would probably vote for someone like Bill or even Leann. IMO if the producers don't go to a model like that they will continue to lose their core audience(even though advertisers probably don't care for that demographic anyway) and the few "kids" they may gain won't be enough to sustain the show.

If my prediction comes true for the finals I'm pretty sure I won't even bother to watch, I've seen every final since the beginning but that would be too much of a joke to bare.

post #5352 of 5460
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It's all dependent on viewer moods. I mean when Snooki was eliminated, she was at the top of the judges scoreboard, but her audience vote count from the prior week was so low that even first place on the judges leader board the following week wasn't enough to save her. Elizabeth was second for the judges scores (and she got a perfect 30 for her trio dance) but that still wasn't enough.

Next season, we need the return of the results show on Tuesday. The differential between the audience vote from the prior week and the judges score from the current week is getting ridiculous (I wouldn't be surprised that Bill&Emma were on top of the audience voting block last week, and probably the same this week).

Tom Bergeron obviously knows the result (he has to, it's on the card in front of him and he has to announce it) and I'll bet he's got to be somewhat perturbed about the outcomes from this season. Some eliminations have made sense (a lot of the early ones) and some have not.
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I agree. Viewers votes based on the prior week makes things appear even more "off the wall" Not to say there hasn't been wild upsets in the past. Also, this year I think several of the "great" dancers who have been booted off are lesser known and this year there are some that are still fairly current. Presumably with a voters' base. And lastly viewers always love dancers who improve over the weeks often beyond those that start out good.

 

Finally, having two dances in most cases waters down the judges' percentage differences between the dancers. Making the judges' score less important. You could pretty much see them trying to will Bill off the show... but didn't dare go below 7s.

post #5354 of 5460
One of the remaining pros is in her first season as such (Slater), and all the others are not just longtime veterans but also have won at least once (Burke, Dovolani, D. Hough, and Smirnoff).

Hard for me to speak ill of Engvall's dancing, since I could come nowhere near it myself, but this is the third consecutive elimination where a pair with high scores from the judges were voted off.  It's beginning to feel funny, and I can't blame Humdinger70 for the foregoing rant.

Nothing in the rehearsal montage for Remini, Dovolan, and Bialykov's trio dance specified that the song would be "We're Not Gonna Take It" by Twisted Sister rather than the song by the Who with the same title.  I wasn't positive which it would be until the music started.
post #5355 of 5460
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Weekly BUMP for tonight's performance/elimination show.

Semi-finals this week and no indication of a double elimination, so they'll probably go with four couples into next week's finals.
post #5356 of 5460
Yup, there was only one elimination tonight, and it was [markup for spoiler edited out the next morning] Remini and Dovolani; Engvall and Slater, Osbourne and Burke, Bleu and Smirnoff, and Riley and Hough are in the finals next week.

But it seems that next week there will be another viewer vote Monday night, so I'm not sure whether no results will be announced Monday and then the finals will be based on tonight's vote, next Monday's vote, and next Monday's scores from the judges, or what.  Perhaps I misunderstood and there will be no viewer vote next week.
 
Edited by dattier - 11/19/13 at 6:50am
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Hi, show over on the west coast.

Semi-finals, 5 couples start, 4 couples go on. I didn't know this but Maks was back and a judge too. Four judges with paddles.

Two dances for each couple, both to the same song, but different types of arrangements. Special guests for second song (the way to shoehorn in guest singers). Kurlie and Noah.

Max score was 40 and two couples got it - Corbin&Karina and Amber&Derek. Good news, sanity prevailed this week, both couples who got 40 advanced to next week's finals.

Once again, Bill&Emma were one of the last couples waiting their fate, along with Leah&Toni (both were the lowest scoring on tonight's judges scoreboard) and gone are....

Leah&Toni.
Bill&Emma survive to make the finals, Bill's aches pains and injuries not withstanding.

Next week - two night finale (just like past seasons), so audience vote on Monday night will be (most likely) combined with tonight's audience vote and next week's judge's scores to find a winner.

Who knows, maybe DanceCenter makes its return?? biggrin.gif
post #5358 of 5460
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Final weekly performance BUMP for the season.

Two nights of competititon and results. Freestyle routines tonight. Did I read program guide correctly? Four rounds of competition for the four couples? Isn't that a bit much?

BTW, last season's winner, Kellie Pickler, returns to perform on the show.

(Please let there be DanceCenter).
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I am wondering, for one reason I have not watched the show this year just how often does Cheryl Burke make it to the finals, it seams to be often.
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I am wondering, for one reason I have not watched the show this year just how often does Cheryl Burke make it to the finals, it seams to be often.
I referenced Wikipedia for this.

She's made it to the finals six (6) times. Winning twice (seasons 2 and 3), second twice (seasons 8 and 13) and third twice (seasons 6 and 14).

She's in this season's finals as well.
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I referenced Wikipedia for this.

She's made it to the finals six (6) times. Winning twice (seasons 2 and 3), second twice (seasons 8 and 13) and third twice (seasons 6 and 14).

She's in this season's finals as well.

Thanks I guess thats about half the time. She is a very good coach.
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First day of finals over on the west coast.

Three rounds - judges choice, samba relay and freestyle. Group TLC provided live music for samba relay.

Score totals were judges scores tonight and last week's audience vote.

And not making it to Tuesday's finale....

Bill&Emma. He enjoyed his time but he's happy it's over.

One more competitive dance tomorrow, plus the return of prior contestants from the season (will Keyshawn be there??).
Score total will be total judges scores from both nights plus tonight's audience vote.

My guess it will be either Corbin&Karina or Amber&Derek.
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I haven't really watched this season and haven't seen Jack Osborn in any videos lately, so I was impressed at how mature he is now. the last time I saw him was in the Ozzy Osborn MTV reality show where he barely got out of bed and was a walking mess when he did.
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My guess it will be either Corbin&Karina or Amber&Derek.

As much as I think Corbin&Karina are the better dancers I think it's Amber&Derek's to lose....

Keli Pickler sure looked nice last night, much better hair than when she danced(although I know why).

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And not making it to Tuesday's finale....

Bill&Emma.
I guess the fans of the last several weeks’ eliminees haven't been joining the Engvall/Slater voting bloc but rather throwing their support to others, so he wasn't getting enough preponderance of viewer votes any more to overcome his disadvantage in judge scores.

The original plan for this week may have been to be down to three couples after last week and to have no elimination last night, but they had to make adjustments for the screwup that invalidated the October 7 vote.
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The finale (and season 17) are now over on the west coast.

Jack&Cheryl, Corbin&Karina and Amber&Derek were there for one more competitive dance - a fusion of different styles for which they only had 24 hours to prepare.

But all the other competitors were there to perform new and or old dances one last time.
Except Keyshawn. He was there just to watch. rolleyes.gif

First up was Bill Nye, supposedly reconstructed ala The Six Million Dollar Man (somewhere Lee Majors had to be cringing). Nice cutting to the stunt double who did the hard tricks (although Bill did a couple of flips and jumps on his own. I assume.).

And the rest came out. Even a reprise of the group dance to that same YouTube song by the artists who were on the show to perform it.

Then came the fusion dances (and forgive if I don't remember the specific combos).

Jack&Cheryl - 27 points, 84 points total.
Corbin&Karina - 27 points, 87 points total.
Amber&Derek - 30 points, 94 points total.

The final results -

3rd place - Jack&Cheryl

2nd place - Corbin&Karina

winner and new champions -
AMBER&DEREK!

For Derek his FIFTH (yes, he now has 5!) mirror ball trophy.

(And somewhere in the ABC complex, Jimmy Kimmel is jumping up and down with glee (pun intended) as Nostra-dance-mus has now correctly predicted his SEVENTH (yes 7!) winner - he predicted Amber to win in week 1 - and won more money in Vegas with betting on his prediction. He will be harder to live with now. Again).

That will do it for season 17. All the finalists (I'm assuming Bill&Emma included) are off to New York for their appearance on Wednesday's Good Morning America for the traditional DWTS after party).

See you in March 2014 for season 18.
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What happened to the DWTS theme song this year, I don't think I heard it once :confused: For our family it was a big part of the show, before we started watching the show we would sing the da da da da da da da, da da da da da! to alert everyone the show was about to begin, this year it was totally lacking. Even the few times they announced the contestants as they entered(something else for the most part lost this season) they played some other music.

What, did they poll some teenagers(or whatever demo they are chasing) and find they found the DTWS theme song to be old fashioned and therefor should be dropped? Whatever, I was very little invested in this season and hardly watched last nights finals, just kind of had it in the background while working on the computer. I hope the producers are getting the demo they want because my guess is they are losing the demo that put them on the top......dang it's a long way off to the next SYTYCD ;)

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Then came the fusion dances (and forgive if I don't remember the specific combos).
From memory, the fusions were

Osbourne & Burke: paso doble/salsa
Bleu & Smirnoff: cha cha/fox trot
Riley & Hough: quickstep/??

The Wikipedia page for DWTS Season 18 says that Riley and Hough's fusion was quickstep/samba.
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All the finalists (I'm assuming Bill&Emma included) are off to New York for their appearance on Wednesday's Good Morning America for the traditional DWTS after party).
Engvall and Slater were not present, nor was Smirnoff because she had a family emergency.  Bleu (or should I use his surname, Reivers) and Riley won the quiz portion, and Riley and Hough repeated their Charleston from Monday's first hour.  Four of the troupe were there as well, dancing without speaking, and they were not introduced by name; I am horrible with faces and couldn't begin to guess who they were, except to say that both of the females were bleached blondes, so neither was Sharna Burgess.  (Hmm; I could be wrong about saying that Emma Slater wasn't there, because one of them might hve been she.)  I've yet to watch my recording of "The View" and therefore don't know who appeared there.

Seems the judges’ scores from Monday were used twice: once in Monday's elimination and again in Tuesday's final rankings.
 
Edited by dattier - 11/28/13 at 11:15am
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Engvall and Slater were not present, nor was Smirnoff because she had a family emergency.  Bleu (or should I use his surname, Reivers) and Riley won the quiz portion, and Riley and Hough repeated their Charleston from Monday's first hour.  Four of the troupe were there as well, dancing without speaking, and they were not introduced by name; I am horrible with faces and couldn't begin to guess who they were, except to say that both of the females were bleached blondes, so neither was Sharna Burgess.  (Hmm; I could be wrong about saying that Emma Slater wasn't there, because one of them might hve been she.)  I've yet to watch my recording of "The View" and therefore don't know who appeared there.

Seems the judges’ scores from Monday were used twice: once in Monday's elimination and again in Tuesday's final rankings.
Yes, they used the total scores from the two nights for all four dances to get the total judges scores, making up that 50 per cent of the total. If it was the troupe, then probably were Witney Carson and Leslie Arnold. Those two and their male counterparts really are the 'troupe'. The regular pros are only added in once they're out of the competition.
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If it was the troupe, then probably were Witney Carson and Leslie Arnold.
Do you mean Lindsay Arnold?  (Having to spell Carson's first name without the H -- probably her manager's bright idea rather than her parents’ -- would throw anybody off.)  The males might have been Gleb Savchenko and Henry Bialykov.

As it turned out, I had no recording of Wednesday's "The View."  Either the DVR failed to record and failed to log the failure, or I had forgotten to set the recording in the first place.  It's not available on Comcast VOD but it's at abc.com, so I'll watch it there and report back.
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