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2007 Mitsubishi WD-57731 and WD-65731 Owner's Thread

post #1 of 280
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Here are my settings for the 65731. I am not an expert at this. These are the settings that looked pleasing to my eyes. I hope to see other owners share their settings so we can all do some testing.

For viewing with normal day light
Picture mode = Bright
Contrast = 45
Bright 35
Color = 32
Tint = 32
Sharp = 20
Temp = High
Perfect Color = Default
Video noise = Off (couldnt tell difference on/off)

For viewing with low lighting
Picture mode = Normal
Contrast = 35
Bright 25
Color = 32
Tint = 32
Sharp = 20
Temp = High
Perfect Color = Default
Video noise = Off (couldnt tell difference on/off)
post #2 of 280
Thank you for sharing your settings.

On a side note, I set the video noise to medium when viewing OTA HD programs. This helps remove any unwanted artifacts.

I use my 65731 mainly for HD viewing (OTA HD, Cable HD and upscaled DVD movies). Have this set for over a month now with no problems!
post #3 of 280
This is for those users who wonder how well these sets handle glare and reflections.

I have a 52631 which lacks the improved screens of the 831.
The TV is opposite a south facing wall in Southern California, with a 7 foot picture window that contains white wooden shutters. These pictures were taken at mid-day, with the shutters fully open, and the set at my normal low brightness settings: Natural range, and brightness tweaked down to 31 to improve shadows and provide more accurate colors.

South Window a.jpg is the offending window.

TV off a.jpg is the TV turned off showing the severe reflections in the wall unit doors and some flare on the screen.

TV on a.jpg is a freeze frame of an HD cable program.

The picture punches through much more effectively than the antique direct view CRT that used to be in the same spot and was almost unwatchable under these conditions. The remaining flare that the camera captures is almost invisible to the eye. I think that the bright or brilliant settings aren't necessary for most users except for direct sunlight on the screen.
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post #4 of 280
Suggestion: Since there already exists a general thread for the 2007 Mitsubishis, a separate tweeks thread is not needed. Just use this one.
post #5 of 280
I'm getting a WD-57731 shipped to me on Wednesday so I'm glad to see this thread. Has anybody seen any other calibration settings around the web that they can share in here?
post #6 of 280
I'm glad to see a 731 thread. Good Job.

So has anyone else had problems with Lip Sync. It is bugging me. The picture is great but I don't know if I can take the Lip Sync problems. It might be my DVR. I'd love to hear other people's opinions on this.
post #7 of 280
Also, Football looked really good tonight. Outcome was not so good, but the games looked good.
post #8 of 280
Lip Sync has to be a problem with an external device, no? I don't think I've ever hear of lip sync being an issue on any set I've ever seen reviewed in the years I've been scoping out HD sets.
post #9 of 280
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Originally Posted by neoufo51 View Post

Lip Sync has to be a problem with an external device, no? I don't think I've ever hear of lip sync being an issue on any set I've ever seen reviewed in the years I've been scoping out HD sets.

I'm no expert, but couldn't the "lip sync" effect come from the set itself? My friend bought one of those HLR Samsungs that lag badly when trying to output videogame images. While reading about that problem, I believe I also read complaints from some HD set owners that their set's videoprocessing was creating an image that lagged behind the (relatively unprocessed) audio.

Anyone else notice audio out of sync with video on the new Mits? Has anyone had a chance to sit down with a game system to check out input lag, yet?
post #10 of 280
Wow, thats pretty insane. I hope I can fully test out my set before the 30 day return period ends. I realize that the 732 sets are preferred because of some better black level performance, but its nothing a good tweaking with an AVIA disk and a non-professional eye for detail can't help me ignore! Anybody out there have any tips, settings, service menu offerings that they can share?
post #11 of 280
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Has anyone had a chance to sit down with a game system to check out input lag, yet?

I just sat down with Hot Shots Golf on PS2 and the timing is way off. I'm going to try Tiger Woods next but I'm really unhappy at this point. Lip sync issues and game Lag. I'm also going to hook my antenna straight to the TV and see if I still have lip sync problems. NOT GOOD.
post #12 of 280
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i am not noticing any game lag on my 360 on conponent but i did w. my old sammy from costco. did you try the second set of conponent inputs. maybe they are just bad. is ur dvr also on the conponent. have mitsubishi come out and look at it or just exchange it.

i am getting an annoying high pitch sound from inside the tv. it's not the fan and the only time i don't hear it is when the volume is set to over 15. it's driving me exchange. a teach should be coming out to look at it this week.
post #13 of 280
I have a 65731 and have not noticed any lag on XBOX 360 through component, and I find the TV to be very quiet.

I do notice some things that don't seem right. The white text in the ESPN bottom line, when scrolling, has trailing white artifacts to the right of many of the letters.

Also, when watching football, I see white flashing marks during field-level closeup shots. These are particularly noticeable with black-and-white jerseys (like the Raiders) or shots of a referee. When the camera is low and panning to follow a player running, there are a number of sparkling white marks that appear in the background during the motion. These do not appear during normal overhead shots or during stills. The jerseys sometimes appear to be "flashing", for lack of a better term.

This is visible using Cablecard and when the Motorola cable box is set to 1080i, but is not visible when the box outputs 720P.

Anyone else see this?
post #14 of 280
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Originally Posted by jferris View Post

I do notice some things that don't seem right. The white text in the ESPN bottom line, when scrolling, has trailing white artifacts to the right of many of the letters.
Also, when watching football, I see white flashing marks during field-level closeup shots. These are particularly noticeable with black-and-white jerseys (like the Raiders) or shots of a referee. When the camera is low and panning to follow a player running, there are a number of sparkling white marks that appear in the background during the motion. These do not appear during normal overhead shots or during stills. The jerseys sometimes appear to be "flashing", for lack of a better term.
This is visible using Cablecard and when the Motorola cable box is set to 1080i, but is not visible when the box outputs 720P.
Anyone else see this?

I am on dish and i do see the white flashing artifacts on espn. like you said, it is only present on 1080i. i just order a hdmi cable for the sat box. i will see if that does the trick or make any difference on the PQ. i will also have the tech check on that when he is here. nfl channel is repeating the dallas & saint games tonight (hopefully in HD). is there any specific part of the game we should look for.
post #15 of 280
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Originally Posted by jferris View Post

I have a 65731 and have not noticed any lag on XBOX 360 through component, and I find the TV to be very quiet.

I do notice some things that don't seem right. The white text in the ESPN bottom line, when scrolling, has trailing white artifacts to the right of many of the letters.
Anyone else see this?

The scrolling letters have the white artifacts on mine too. I was thinking that it was just an Espn issue, but I see it all the time. I have satellite HD DVR hooked up with HDMI.
post #16 of 280
I am using a DVI->HDMI cable, I believe I tried both HDMI ports.

I watched a little of the Saints game and it was very noticeable during field-level replays. Any fast-action, low level scene produces the effect. The effect is more noticable with a group of players in the background. The Saints game showed this a ton due to the dark uniforms.
post #17 of 280
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I am using a DVI->HDMI cable, I believe I tried both HDMI ports.

I watched a little of the Saints game and it was very noticeable during field-level replays. Any fast-action, low level scene produces the effect. The effect is more noticable with a group of players in the background. The Saints game showed this a ton due to the dark uniforms.

are those the artifacts you are referring to.
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post #18 of 280
Oh man...I'm not going to switch from Component until Comcast comes out with a box with native HDMI output just to avoid these issues with my 57731 when I get it tomorrow.
post #19 of 280
Hey Guys nice to see the threads opening up. I have a question as I am interested in the WD-Y65 is this the thread for me?
post #20 of 280
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Originally Posted by hd nOOb View Post

Hey Guys nice to see the threads opening up. I have a question as I am interested in the WD-Y65 is this the thread for me?

Is it the same as the 65731? I think it is. What questions?
post #21 of 280
I have artifact...blurring issues on various stations via Comcast HD/DVR, but I've had similar issues with the same stations on my previous Sony Wega SD TV (same STB). I doubt if the problem isn't related to the station feed or the STB. I'm currently hooked DVI/HDMI and have been told the Comcast now has a native HDMI STB. I'm considering changing, but don't want to buy a new cable

With clean feeds from the HD channels (INHD, Discovery, HBO) I rarely notice DD dropouts, but no video issues.

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post #22 of 280
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Originally Posted by btherndon View Post

Is it the same as the 65731? I think it is. What questions?


I have been to the Mits website and its not the same as the 731 more features.

At the bottom of the PDF you can see the pic of the back with all the same connects ecept one componet plus it has a service port. So why do ppl say 731 when its closer to 732?
post #23 of 280
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Originally Posted by hd nOOb View Post

I have been to the Mits website and its not the same as the 731 more features.

At the bottom of the PDF you can see the pic of the back with all the same connects ecept one componet plus it has a service port. So why do ppl say 731 when its closer to 732?

it is the same tv as 731 except the y57/65 has a different color casing, tv guide & net command.
the 732 has dark detailer, perfect tint, deep field imager and sharp edge. these are functions/settings that both the y57/65 and 731 does not have. so if you think the y57/65 is closer to a 732 then so be it.
post #24 of 280
I wasn't trying to be rude hotspot just tryin to get some questions answerd. I have been to local B&M stores and they act like they havent heard of the 732 or 831 so I thought the CC one was the 732 there, just made with differnt name for them. Does any have a idea of where else i can go to see these tv's. I live in Columbus, Ohio.

Thx
post #25 of 280
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Originally Posted by hd nOOb View Post

I wasn't trying to be rude hotspot just tryin to get some questions answerd. I have been to local B&M stores and they act like they havent heard of the 732 or 831 so I thought the CC one was the 732 there, just made with differnt name for them. Does any have a idea of where else i can go to see these tv's. I live in Columbus, Ohio.

Thx

try mit website for a local authorize dealer. call them up and make sure they have the one you want on display. if not call mit.
post #26 of 280
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Originally Posted by hotpot View Post

are those the artifacts you are referring to.

No, I am seeing something different, but thanks for posting those shots. I never see them on the camera angle displayed in image006. Only on a field-level shot, the type they usually cut to after the play. They will cut to field level shot of a player jogging back to the huddle or back to the sideline. If there is a group of players in the background, you see a bunch of white flashes in the background of the shot, almost as if the jerseys have been electrified. They are very rapid and bright.

If you DVR the play and play it back in slow-mo, they are not there. They only appear on the screen if you play it full-speed.

These are not related to the cable box, as they appear when using the internal QAM tuner as well. The only way to get rid of them is to output the cable box to 720P.
post #27 of 280
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Originally Posted by jferris View Post


These are not related to the cable box, as they appear when using the internal QAM tuner as well. The only way to get rid of them is to output the cable box to 720P.

ESPN and Fox are both 720p signals so that is what you should have it on for them anyway. CBS is 1080i.
post #28 of 280
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Originally Posted by btherndon View Post

ESPN and Fox are both 720p signals so that is what you should have it on for them anyway. CBS is 1080i.

True, but simply switching to 1080i for 720P sources should not cause all those issues - you would expect to gain subtle improvements in PQ. Also the internal tuner displays the same problem, which is my main concern. If this was simply a cable box-->TV problem with 1080i then I would not be that worried. If no one else is seeing this, then I would have to assume it is fixable or could be remedied with an exchange.
post #29 of 280
Guys, Do yourself a favor and go see the 57 or 65831. I had the 65731 for almost two months and was able to swap iit for the 65831. The diffrence is striking and if you''re good at negotiating you can get it for not a whole lot more than the 731.
post #30 of 280
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Guys, Do yourself a favor and go see the 57 or 65831. I had the 65731 for almost two months and was able to swap iit for the 65831. The diffrence is striking and if you''re good at negotiating you can get it for not a whole lot more than the 731.

You would have to put that thought in the back of my mind...
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