2007 Mitsubishi 732 series Owner's Thread (57732, 65732, 73732) - Page 5

Originally Posted by TrendSetterX

I think the point he was getting at was whether or not he needed to include the digital-Coax audio OUT from the Mitsu in his list of inputs needed on the receiver. Yes. If you plan on using a cable card or the internal tuners of the TV, AND you want audio through your receiver (not just the TV speakers) then you will need to run a digital-Coax from your TV to your receiver.

As I mentioned earlier, you can't rely on the TV's Digital-Coax -OUT- to provide Dolby Digital signals from your external components when connected via HDMI. For those you'll need to run TOS-Link or D-Coax from the components themselves to the reciever individually.

Originally Posted by SailorKane

This isn't exactly what you want, but is a shootout of 3 midsized receivers. The Yamaha critiqued here is the older model, not the new 2700 due out in a couple weeks.
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/equ...receivers.html

Originally Posted by largdiag

Thanks. I guess that too much$ for me.

I stumbled on crunchfeld and they let you select a reciever to do side by side comparison. The Sony STR-DG600 seems like a good choice to work with the Mitsubishi. Its about 260. 100W and has 4 optical and 2 coax digital inputs. It auto detects the inputs and says Auto will decode the signal in its original form (Dolby Digital, DTS, PCM, etc), PCM decodes the signal to 2-channel. I hope 2 channel doesnt mean stereo.

Originally Posted by Cap'n Preshoot

Get the name and I'll check it out.

In order to be considered the warranty company has to agree to furnish a copy of their actual contract - that's what got WarrantyByNet disqualified. They refused to provide (ignored 3 successive requests for) an advance copy of their legal contract. WBN wouldn't even respond to emails even though they have a web presence and offer a customer service email link.

Per claims history from Service Net approx 80% of their "unrepairable/total replacement" claims occur in the 4th & 5th year making the 5-year plan (4 + Mfr year) a no-brainer, that is, if you're looking at an EW at all.

All of the new 2007 series Mitsubishi's in one way or another represent bits and pieces of cutting-edge technology with as yet unproven life expectancy. I for one don't feel like being anyone's guinea pig. While I can afford the initial outlay I'm sure going to feel like a damned fool 15 months from now if it craps out after the factory warranty and I'm left having to pony up $250 pickup & delivery charge + 1000~1500 to get it fixed and thereafter wonder how good the repair job is. Please spare me the lecture; I know EW's are a bad gamble, but I can't afford the alternative.

Originally Posted by TrendSetterX

Keep in mind that it doesn't have to be "new." There are some great deals to be had on ebay and craigslist or even here from people looking to upgrade.

Originally Posted by Cap'n Preshoot

Thanks. Email has been sent. I may also call them on Monday. I do note that the MACK is only a 3-yr warranty (3 + Mfr year = 4 total) which significantly reduces their risk and so the cost is understandably less expensive. According to ServiceNet year 5 is where most of the expensive (total replacement) claims are occurring.

On the surface, the MACK EW looks like a reasonably priced deal, but not that much of a good deal since it's a full year shorter than what I (and most others) want.

Originally Posted by largdiag

Is it necessary nowadays to get a receiver that has adjustable audio delay to account for lips sync issues?
Im shopping for a new A/V receiver to go with the 65732 and was wondering if lip sync can be aproblem with the mits.

thanks!

Originally Posted by Cap'n Preshoot

Yeah, saw that. Sounds like they're trying to give you the old Bum's Rush like a used car dealer. Personally, I'd pass. The mere fact that the Mack is a 3-yr vs most others are 4 yrs is enough to turn me off. Cheap, yes, but in exchange for the savings, you give up the single most important year of the contract. They're trying hard to avoid paying claims and by eliminating the highest-risk year is one surefire way to avoid a lot of them.

Mits 1-yr factory warranty on the 732 models includes a lamp. However, the lamp (out-of-warranty) is only $249 whereas an in-shop repair typically runs $800~$1000 or more so I'm more inclined to want an EW for the high-dollar protection it affords and I'll eat the lamp cost (if necessary). Sort of like getting 'major medical' coverage with the lamp as the deductible.

In reading the fine print in the warranty "contracts" they all have a lifetime cap on the maximum total of combined claims they will pay. That "cap" is the original purchase price that you paid, not the MSRP for the unit, minus tax. Translation: you only have total replacement cost coverage until you have a claim. Once a claim is paid the amount of remaining coverage is reduced by the total amount of previous claims already paid. - That's a very significant point.

"No Lemon Guarantee" also does not include repairs for the same failure that occurred during the factory warranty period.

NONE, not a single one of the current flock of EW contracts I've looked at include any coverage for annual cleaning & alignment. Do the new 631, 731, 732 and 831 DLP sets need periodic cleaning? What's involved in the cleaning process?

Originally Posted by TrendSetterX

Somtimes. It completely depends on the setup. The thing to keep in mind is that it's not the audio that's delayed, it's the video (so sometimes you need to be able to delay the audio so it matches the video). The cause is fairly straight forward. Because every device can do it's own video processing, each step of processing can add up and cause delays. To compound this, the fact these Mitsus are native 1080p sets combined with the fact that there are almost no 1080p source components means that you will always have to add one video processing step to the mix for the TV to scale to its native 1080p resolution. On the other hand, Audio, more often than not, is passed over TOS-link in pure, untouched bit-stream to be decoded and handled once by the receiver.

Froudja processing is a heavy hitter in this regard and you'll notice on the Sammy DLP threads that lipsynch is often an issue. The Froudja OPPO DVD player (which I have) has also had its fair share of issues but, thanks to OPPO firmware updates is mostly a thing of the past.

The key, for image quality and video delay, is to have fewest steps of video processing possible between source media and the image hitting the screen.

Again, though, it really depends on your setup.

Originally Posted by lagcal3

I'm just wondering if anyone here has used a HTPC through the DVI port. Any actual overscan? How about 1:1 pixal mapping.

HTPC is a major factor in deciding what TV i'm getting. On paper the Mits 732 series seem the perfect tv for me. I'm hoping to get some 1st hand info about HTPC usage.

Originally Posted by Trackman

DLPs use a single chip and thus do not need to be converged or aligned. Nor is there any need to do cleaning of the mirrors as with a CRT.