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post #241 of 2650
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Originally Posted by BadClams View Post

Thanks for the great info Cap'n. I'll look into what you've got!

As far as the lamp issue goes, its a bit of a now-or-later issue (as I see it). My spin would be to use it for lamp replacment as needed and accept the diminished total reinbursment available for a replacement IF that ever happened. Example: what if the ONLY issue you had is a burnt bulb (in, lets say year 2), during your entire 3/4/5 year warrantee period. You get to 4 years, 11 months and 29 days and think, "Crap...I paid for that bulb outta pocket!" I figure if the TV goes T.U., I'll deal with it with whatever buffer the EW still affords but not at the expense of missed opportunities.

My "spin" on it is the cost of a real-McCoy 5 yr plan w/no lamp compared to the cost of any other equivalent 5 yr plan with a lamp. The MACK plan is cheaper, sure but it isn't a 5-yr plan. So far the best price on any 5 yr plan with a lamp is $500, The plan I selected is $356 without a lamp. The $144 I'm saving by not getting lamp coverage will make a nice dent in the cost of a lamp if I need one. I want a 5 yr plan. Read my lips, "5-year plan."

Here's my thinking. There's just my wife and I, both in our early 60s. We've had the set 3 weeks now and only have 51 hours on the lamp. The bulk of our TV watching is on the 27" Tosh CRT in the kitchen. 51 hours in 3 weeks is an avg 17 hours a week. Some of you probably watch 17 hours in a day. I'm betting $105 (the diff. between the cost of a lamp minus the $144 savings on the warranty) that in the next 5 years we're more apt to need a major cost repair than a lamp. You're betting you'll need the lamp. Some of you are betting you'll need 2 lamps.
post #242 of 2650
u can buy a 3 year bulb extended warranty for $99 it covers up to 2 bulbs
post #243 of 2650
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Originally Posted by largdiag View Post

Is there Fry's sale going on for the 732?

If so, can you tell me what store? Can you PM me what you paid?

thanks!

I was in Fry's in Woodland Hills, CA on Tuesday and the 65732 was not on sale. I told the salesman to give me their best deal and he spent 10 minutes going to his manager and came back with a $150 discount (about $250 less than I was expecting).

I just sold my 53" Sony RPTV and so I'll be buying something very soon.

Next up is Ken Crane's tomorrow. Anyone have any experience with how well they deal? If anyone has bought a 65732 at Ken Crane's, maybe you could PM me with the price paid and your experience with them; I'll be going to the Encino store.

By the way, the 732 was sitting right next to a 731 at the Fry's store and I had some time to play with the settings; I thought the 732 was a substantial improvement, and even liked it slightly more than a 57831 that was not located near the 732 and not playing the same material, making it difficult to really compare the two.
post #244 of 2650
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Originally Posted by largdiag View Post

Is there Fry's sale going on for the 732?

If so, can you tell me what store? Can you IM me what you paid?

thanks!

Wholesale distributor net price for the 65732 is approx $2760. Any price above that the difference represents the level of mark-up or margin that the dealer is applying.

Obviously the dealer cannot sell it to you at his cost and no salesperson will want to give up his commission, so somewhere between the above number and the MSRP is where you're going to meet. How close you get to the above number will depend upon your negotiation skill and the dealer's willingness to accept less profit or his anxiousness to sell the TV. Somewhere in between you will meet.
post #245 of 2650
If you purchase the TV from Fry's, their EW is not bad...because any lamps you purchased from them is half price off...cost of a lamp for the 732 series is around $120.

A four year without lamp EW from Frys is around $380... and you save from buying 1 or 2 lamps at 50% off.
post #246 of 2650
I drove down to Brands Mart USA in West Palm Beach tonight, after being jilted today I nearly jumped ship and grabbed the Sammy 6187 (it would have saved me $250 vs the 732), but I decided to wait for my 65732. This was due in part to the fact that they had a floor model stand MB62528 which looks much like the matching MB65GB, it is 58 1/2 inches wide, looks like a perfect fit. And it was $75. My lucky day. I spoke with the salesman about the 65732, I was told their cost is 2690, so I feel like I got a pretty good deal, but he said they would match my price. Their EW is administered by Warrantech, a 5 year EW with up to 2 lamps (for 5 years also) is $399 with a tv purchase, of course. I grabbed a copy of the warranty agreement, it seemed pretty straight forward, in home repair, it includes damage from power surges, also as Cap'n mentioned it is limited to the total cost of the unit. In my earlier net wanderings I found the RepairMaster warranty by television warranties for $264 (sets up to 5k) for a 5 year plan, a 3 year lamp replacement is an additional $64. I also grabbed a Sammy upconverting DVD player for $88. So, the wait for my 732 continues......
post #247 of 2650
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Preshoot View Post

Was the HDNet feed a movie? Some of the recent HDNet stuff hasn't exactly been premier quality for "showing off" a set's attributes. Also how many sets were they driving with that same feed? Amplifiers add a noise figure. I'd want to see it with a DVD feed of something I was familiar with or a live sporting event.


The HDNet feed was just one of their shows. Last time I went I saw a football game live on ESPNHD. It was very clear on the 6188, 60A2000 and even a 52631 they had, but to me the 73732 looked a little fuzzy. That sharpness just seemed out of reach. By the way, this Tweeter has an excellent feed to all of it's TV's, unlike BB's and other big chains.
post #248 of 2650
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Originally Posted by Wahooslayer View Post

I drove down to Brands Mart USA in West Palm Beach tonight, after being jilted today I nearly jumped ship and grabbed the Sammy 6187 (it would have saved me $250 vs the 732), but I decided to wait for my 65732..

I think you're going to be very glad you waited and I am completely sympathetic with your frustration at being let down on delivery day. I'd have been sick. Something I did, which might help reinstill you with the warm fuzzies is call them every couple days, maybe use ext 3819 & talk to Ed Andrews (Ed handles delivery logistics). Just remember, they're not in on weekends.

In the meantime it might not hurt to quit beating yourself up over this temporary setback and stay out of the stores for the next few days until it arrives. "Delayed gratification" is really tough to deal with especially when you've got a dose of the "I Wannas" and are surrounded by competing product tugging at your weaknesses. If you wind up "settling for less" than you bargained for, you may hate yourself the next morning Been there and done that with a car deal once and my wife never lets me forget about the Corvette with the hideous tan interior we ended up hating (and later taking a bath on) because of my impulsiveness.

Hang tough!!
post #249 of 2650
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Originally Posted by RudyMeister View Post

If you purchase the TV from Fry's, their EW is not bad...because any lamps you purchased from them is half price off...cost of a lamp for the 732 series is around $120.

That's very interesting considering the wholesale cost of the lamp (w/module) to the servicing dealer direct from MITS is right at $200. Are we talking about the factory original OSRAM (German-made) lamp and module or something from a secondary source provider that's made in China?
post #250 of 2650
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Originally Posted by domingos1965 View Post

u can buy a 3 year bulb extended warranty for $99 it covers up to 2 bulbs

Where?
post #251 of 2650
and u can buy a 5 year extended warranty 4+1 for $264
post #252 of 2650
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Preshoot View Post

That's very interesting considering the wholesale cost of the lamp (w/module) to the servicing dealer direct from MITS is right at $200. Are we talking about the factory original OSRAM (German-made) lamp and module or something from a secondary source provider that's made in China?

I can see it now, airlines banning carry-on of DLP sets because chinese-made replacement bulbs could blow up.


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Figured I'd better footnote this and say I'M JOKING. I forget how sensitive our readers can be .
post #253 of 2650
When I looked on the Mack website for info on EW on these TV's, I seem to remember that the warrantees for the TV and for the bulbs are two separate part numbers. The outfit in Texas that is reselling the EW's apparently bundles them together, but they might be available for sale individually. The Bulb warrantee started with date of purchase, not end of manufacturer's warrantee, so was more restrictive. But check it out.
post #254 of 2650
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Originally Posted by domingos1965 View Post

and u can buy a 5 year extended warranty 4+1 for $264


Where at?!?
post #255 of 2650
posted this in the general xx731 xx732 xx831 thread, seems this place might be more appropriate(?)

Well, my apt-mate got his 65732 in today.

So far it looks great. I still need to tweak the settings, and read through this thread to gather the important information. It's too bad it hasn't been done and placed in the OP, I'll provide my findings so perhaps the OP can edit his post with the information.

Anyway. I've got my Mythbox connected 1080p via one of the HDMI inputs. My DCT6200 via the other HDMI at 1080i, the Xbox360 and Xbox are connected via component and the PS2 via SVideo. So far its been amazing to look at =)

Anyone know a good center speaker stand to put my center speaker above the tv? Its a Paradigm Reference Center so its relatively heavy. Thanks!
post #256 of 2650
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Originally Posted by RudyMeister View Post

If you purchase the TV from Fry's, their EW is not bad...because any lamps you purchased from them is half price off...cost of a lamp for the 732 series is around $120.

A four year without lamp EW from Frys is around $380... and you save from buying 1 or 2 lamps at 50% off.

Do they have that in writing somewhere? Because I didnt see it in their EW description.
post #257 of 2650
Anyone buy their 65732 from Costco? Did it come with a stand? I ask because all of the RPTV on display at my local Costco, including an older Mitsubishi DLP (WD-52628?) and the Samsung HL-S6767W (which I am also considering), had a stand included in the price despite there being no mention of included stands in the online descriptions for those models. It would make the $3,299 price much more competitive with some of the other deals that have been struck with other retailers.

Also, has anyone seen the 65732 in a Costco showroom yet? Does Costco perhaps plan on selling the 732 models online only? I would love to avoid the $165 shipping charge and would be willing to wait a few weeks if I could pick it up locally.

Thanks!

Gizmo Joe
post #258 of 2650
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Originally Posted by BadClams View Post

Where at?!?

thats Teds unlimited......or television warranties dot calm. With 3 year bulb is 319. sounds like the best EW to me. Frys wants 400.
post #259 of 2650
And another post...

As I plan on purchasing my next RPTV from Costco, I am trying to decide between the Samsung HL-S6767W and Mitsubishi WD-65732, both of which are sold by them. Considering these units are similarly sized and priced, I cannot easily decide and am looking for some advice. My family's current viewing habits are as follows:

40% HD programming via an HR10-250 DirecTV TiVo STB (as much as possible OTA)
30% SD programming via an HR10-250 DirecTV TiVo STB
15% XBox gaming (I will upgrade to XBox 360 or PS3 soon)
15% DVD via a Samsung 1080i up converting DVD player (I will upgrade to HD DVD or BlueRay soon, perhaps relying on game console for playback)

Eliab did a great job on my Pio 64" CRT 2 years ago, so I am well aware of the benefits of ISF calibrations. Nevertheless, I would like to avoid the expense of a calibration for now, so out of the box performance (with some AVIA tweaking by me) is important.

Any input would be greatly appreciated!

Gizmo Joe
post #260 of 2650
Gizmo, I went to Costco this afternoon in tampa and there were no large Mits TV's on display or in the racks. Hopefully they will come in sometime. I never thought of the included stand. You are right that all of the large TV's I saw there had a stand bundled with it. That's probably 2-300 bucks worth of value and may put their price in the running!

On the 6767, that was one TV that I considered some time back. Only concern I would have is that I believe it was this year's electronics in last year's case and size, according to some posts I read. So, seems to be a limited run of TV's, maybe even a "maverick". Supply seemed to be very limited. However, if this set appeals, do check it out for yourself.

Today we also found a place with a Sony A2000, Sammy 61", and Mits 65" next to each other. I'm no expert at these TV's. But, personally we liked the Mits picture best. We found no artifacts, no evidence of poor deinterlacing or any other bad problem in the Mits. We were concerned after some of the posts here. It was specifically 1080i to 1080p that seemed to create problems, and there were none that I could see. There were some Moire patterns in bleachers, but it was worst in the Sammy, about equal and very low in the Mits and Sony. The sharpness was a bit high on the Sammy. The Mits and Sammy both looked better to my eye than the Sony, which looked smooth, but kinda "soft".

But the most notable thing was how good all three TV's looked. I think that if you had any of the 3 in your home and just watched TV on it, you'd be happy. And calibration, esp prof calibration in the Sammy, would certainly help a lot.
post #261 of 2650
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Originally Posted by IndieRockSteve View Post

Anyone know a good center speaker stand to put my center speaker above the tv? Its a Paradigm Reference Center so its relatively heavy.

What are the dimensions and weight of the speaker? I created a very nice home-made center-speaker platform for the back of a 57732 that's currently supporting a 20-pound speaker that is about 9" deep.
post #262 of 2650
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Originally Posted by largdiag View Post

Do they have that in writing somewhere? Because I didnt see it in their EW description.

I don'tknow but the manager whom Ipurchase my TV ...told me so...I'll chk it out though
post #263 of 2650
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Originally Posted by RudyMeister View Post

I don'tknow but the manager whom Ipurchase my TV ...told me so...I'll chk it out though

You know...cometo think of it... at the time of my purchase...I could have bought a bulb for half price if I had bought the EW...he quoted me the bulb for aropund 125 or less.
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It seems as though the RepairMaster 55000 is a frequently seen EW, 5 years under 5k, I have seen it as low as $187 on Page Computers (dot com). Repair Master also has a 3 year bulb replacement warranty, though I don't see it on this website, perhaps a phone call would do the trick. I still DON'T HAVE MY TV YET so I can't buy an EW yet.
post #266 of 2650
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Preshoot View Post

Where?

Cap'n, on the television warranties (dot com) site, they offer the RepairMaster 3 year bulb replacement warranty if purchased at the same time with the television warranty. Perhaps Warranty By Net has it available also?
post #267 of 2650
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Originally Posted by TrendSetterX View Post

What are the dimensions and weight of the speaker? I created a very nice home-made center-speaker platform for the back of a 57732 that's currently supporting a 20-pound speaker that is about 9" deep.

its about 12"x24" and weighs ~35lbs

though I have it sitting on the shelf under the tv, and it sounds pretty good there. I think I want to see how it sounds over the tv though, see which I like better.

thanks!
post #268 of 2650
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Originally Posted by IndieRockSteve View Post

its about 12"x24" and weighs ~35lbs

Ah. In that case I don't think my setup would be a good idea. I created a platform off of the back of the tv so the front of the speaker sits against the back lip of the bezel. This being so, the plastic rearhousing of the set is doing all the support and I think 35# might be a bit much. Wouldn't want to warp anything and mess up mirror geometry.
post #269 of 2650
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Originally Posted by TrendSetterX View Post

What were you calibrating the set to? Internal Tuner? DVD Player (what brand and model and input method)? Cable or Satellite STB (what brand and model and input method)?

These settings will only generally apply to the pairing you calibrated to. Every different DVD player will have different settings when paired with the same TV. For the same DVD player on the same TV, the settings will also change between input methods (hdmi vs component vs firewire vs ...)

The reason the Mitsu remembers different settings for each input is for this very reason. You calibrate the pairing, not the set "in general."

Caveat: Of course settings like image geometry would be for the set "in general"


Can the Mits save settings for input pairings AND for the various input formats it might see on a pairing? For example, say your cable box is connected via HDMI and is set for passthrough. The Mits is likely to see 1080i, 720p and I guess 480i native input. It seems as if it might be importan to tweak not only for the input pairign but for the format as well? - or maybe that's overkill.

In evaluating the 73 Mits' to the JVC (and soon XBR2) it seems that the JVCs do not even have input pairing setting capability (all global) - but I have yet to confirm that and wanted to really understand the Mits capability first.

Thanks,

Pete
post #270 of 2650
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Originally Posted by ptoemmes View Post

Can the Mits save settings for input pairings AND for the various input formats it might see on a pairing? For example, say your cable box is connected via HDMI and is set for passthrough. The Mits is likely to see 1080i, 720p and I guess 480i native input. It seems as if it might be importan to tweak not only for the input pairign but for the format as well? - or maybe that's overkill.

In evaluating the 73 Mits' to the JVC (and soon XBR2) it seems that the JVCs do not even have input pairing setting capability (all global) - but I have yet to confirm that and wanted to really understand the Mits capability first.

Thanks,

Pete

I just looked at this for my Myth box and it doesn't look to have this ability =(
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