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post #1201 of 3703
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Originally Posted by juventuscadillac View Post

can a P362 be use as a center? and how?

Yes, just connect it to the center speaker terminal on the back of your receiver.
post #1202 of 3703
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Originally Posted by juventuscadillac View Post

can a P362 be use as a center? and how?

Yes it can

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/502/editedhtsetup.jpg

Look for a local Fry's and then wait for their 99$ sale. Even though the ad states price is per pair most Fry's stores I know will sell you this speaker individually.
post #1203 of 3703
The Infinity Primus 362 sales at frys.com is back. $99/each.

http://shop4.frys.com/product/522368...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG
post #1204 of 3703
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Originally Posted by jehanzeb View Post

Yes it can

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/502/editedhtsetup.jpg

Look for a local Fry's and then wait for their 99$ sale. Even though the ad states price is per pair most Fry's stores I know will sell you this speaker individually.

but does is sound better than the PC350?
post #1205 of 3703
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Originally Posted by juventuscadillac View Post

but does is sound better than the PC350?

Yes, because it has bigger drivers for both the midrange and the woofers. Plus you'll have a seamlessly identical front soundstage.
post #1206 of 3703
How would these compare to say the Energy C-300? I can get those for pretty much the same price as the P362's. Thanks
post #1207 of 3703
I just picked up two from frys' website, though they look to be sold out now. I can't wait to get them, though I hope they come at the same time.
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I tried to order two 362s from Fry's last night and I kept getting a website error. Their website is complete trash through and through. Now, they're sold out... It'd be so much easier to get this $99/speaker deal if I could actually go to a B&M store, but alas, I live on the east coast and we don't have any Fry's here.
post #1209 of 3703
I also would like to get a pair or 2 but now it says sold out!! I live in OK so we dont have a fry's here. Has anyone talked to them about if they'll be getting more or what??

Also, how do these compare to the BIC Acoustech line??
post #1210 of 3703
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Originally Posted by juventuscadillac View Post

but does is sound better than the PC350?

I tried the PC350 also and thought it was one of the best Center channels I had heard.

Till I tried the P362 and the difference was immediate on how well the soundstage blended into the Front and Left speakers instead of 'sticking out'.

For the 99$ price of the P362, you cannot beat this speaker, especially as a Center Channel.
post #1211 of 3703
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Originally Posted by L4stM4nSt4nding View Post

I live on the east coast and we don't have any Fry's here.

How far is Georgia from you?

http://shop4.frys.com/isp/duluth.html
post #1212 of 3703
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Originally Posted by ousooner2 View Post

I also would like to get a pair or 2 but now it says sold out!! I live in OK so we dont have a fry's here. Has anyone talked to them about if they'll be getting more or what??

Also, how do these compare to the BIC Acoustech line??

Sound is subjective so it depends on who you talk too. There was a simple review from Matt34 above us on his little shoot out between Acoustech, AV123 X speakers, and the Infinity Primus. Click on his link to read his review. Based on his opinion, Infinity wins by a decent margine.


http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...ad.php?t=48411

L4st,

I feel your pain. Must of suck just to get error page as the stocks continue to dwindle. There must of been a lot of orders that may have somehow messed up the site. Keep checking to see if there will be new orders available.
post #1213 of 3703
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Originally Posted by ousooner2 View Post

I also would like to get a pair or 2 but now it says sold out!! I live in OK so we dont have a fry's here. Has anyone talked to them about if they'll be getting more or what??

Also, how do these compare to the BIC Acoustech line??

Here's one that was 1 or 2 pages back;

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Originally Posted by Matt34 View Post

Here is a purely subjective, sighted comparison I did involving the Primus 362 I think you guys might enjoy.

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...ad.php?t=48411

As for stock, Online it seems like it takes them a month or 2 to get them back in stock, then another month or 2 to go on sale. However with Christmas coming up it's anyone's guess. This could have been the last one of the year or maybe they'll do one more around black friday. In store is a little different as I've heard certain stores will do the sale more often, however seeing as michigan doesn't have a fry's...
post #1214 of 3703
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Originally Posted by juventuscadillac View Post

can a P362 be use as a center? and how?

If you have p362's as left and rights then the 362 would be a great center channel. Just put it in between the others. Unfortunately, unless your tv is up pretty high, the speaker might get in the way of the screen.

Here is a link to a Tom Nousaine article about using a non-center channel speaker for a center channel speaker.

http://www.nousaine.com/cen%20chan%201.htm
post #1215 of 3703
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Originally Posted by calnbs View Post

Sound is subjective

I hear what you're saying, but I have a different way of putting it: people's preferences in speakers is subjective, but that's because they do sighted comparisons. When done double-blind, people's preferences are remarkably similar. So, yeah, some people like over-emphasize their bass (think overactive subwoofer) or sizzly high-end (turn up the treble). But when presented the options in a controlled, research situation where they are free to choose, Toole and Olive's research shows the following:

"viewed in the broad perspective, good sound quality is not a matter of individual taste. When dealing with loudspeakers
that are similarly good, there will be small biases in the results attributable to the music itself (as it is able to reveal the problems) and listeners (as they reveal their individual tolerances to the problems they hear in the musical selections)."

Here's a great summary of their work:

http://www.tmworld.com/index.asp?lay...cleid=CA475937

ousooner2 had asked " Also, how do these compare to the BIC Acoustech line??"

It's possible that BIC Acoustech line may be the biggest bargain in audio history. Possible, but highly unlikely. When you read the article from TMM world, you learn that the team that puts together Infinity (or any Harman) speakers has some of the finest speaker building resources on planet earth and has the most innovative subjective testing out there. It's then logical to wonder if the BIC speaker has even a small fraction of the sophistication, refinement and passion (read the white papers on Infinity's site to pick up on Floyd Toole's love for good sound) that is put into every audio product that comes out of that place. I find it amazing to think that most speakers are tested in pseudo-anechoic conditions and with sighted listening tests, while Harman products are tested in full-sized 4 pi anechoic environments then subjected to double-blind, head-to-head tests against leading competitors. There's a big difference between developing speakers with one speaker guru and a listening room versus Harman's cadre of music-loving Ph D's and batteries of DBT's in their multi-million dollar multi channel listening lab.

If the Primus 362's were veneered with decent looking wood (think Quad or Proac) they could sell them for $1500. The P360's embarrassed my Monitor Audio RS8's, which cost $1500.

Hopefully this encourages you to shop hard for some Primus's, ousooner! It will be worth the wait.
post #1216 of 3703
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Originally Posted by jehanzeb View Post

Yes it can

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/502/editedhtsetup.jpg


wow, that is a cool setup!!!
post #1217 of 3703
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Originally Posted by markwriter View Post

I hear what you're saying, but I have a different way of putting it: people's preferences in speakers is subjective, but that's because they do sighted comparisons. When done double-blind, people's preferences are remarkably similar. So, yeah, some people like over-emphasize their bass (think overactive subwoofer) or sizzly high-end (turn up the treble). But when presented the options in a controlled, research situation where they are free to choose, Toole and Olive's research shows the following:

"viewed in the broad perspective, good sound quality is not a matter of individual taste. When dealing with loudspeakers
that are similarly good, there will be small biases in the results attributable to the music itself (as it is able to reveal the problems) and listeners (as they reveal their individual tolerances to the problems they hear in the musical selections)."

Here's a great summary of their work:

http://www.tmworld.com/index.asp?lay...cleid=CA475937

ousooner2 had asked " Also, how do these compare to the BIC Acoustech line??"

It's possible that BIC Acoustech line may be the biggest bargain in audio history. Possible, but highly unlikely. When you read the article from TMM world, you learn that the team that puts together Infinity (or any Harman) speakers has some of the finest speaker building resources on planet earth and has the most innovative subjective testing out there. It's then logical to wonder if the BIC speaker has even a small fraction of the sophistication, refinement and passion (read the white papers on Infinity's site to pick up on Floyd Toole's love for good sound) that is put into every audio product that comes out of that place. I find it amazing to think that most speakers are tested in pseudo-anechoic conditions and with sighted listening tests, while Harman products are tested in full-sized 4 pi anechoic environments then subjected to double-blind, head-to-head tests against leading competitors. There's a big difference between developing speakers with one speaker guru and a listening room versus Harman's cadre of music-loving Ph D's and batteries of DBT's in their multi-million dollar multi channel listening lab.

If the Primus 362's were veneered with decent looking wood (think Quad or Proac) they could sell them for $1500. The P360's embarrassed my Monitor Audio RS8's, which cost $1500.

Hopefully this encourages you to shop hard for some Primus's, ousooner! It will be worth the wait.

I think I am more like what you said. I am not one of those very picky listener. I won't sit there and break down every single sound that comes out of the speaker. Infinity Primus 362 are excellent for the price of $99. I own 4 of them
post #1218 of 3703
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Originally Posted by markwriter View Post

I hear what you're saying, but I have a different way of putting it: people's preferences in speakers is subjective, but that's because they do sighted comparisons. When done double-blind, people's preferences are remarkably similar. So, yeah, some people like over-emphasize their bass (think overactive subwoofer) or sizzly high-end (turn up the treble). But when presented the options in a controlled, research situation where they are free to choose, Toole and Olive's research shows the following:

"viewed in the broad perspective, good sound quality is not a matter of individual taste. When dealing with loudspeakers
that are similarly good, there will be small biases in the results attributable to the music itself (as it is able to reveal the problems) and listeners (as they reveal their individual tolerances to the problems they hear in the musical selections)."

Here's a great summary of their work:

http://www.tmworld.com/index.asp?lay...cleid=CA475937

ousooner2 had asked " Also, how do these compare to the BIC Acoustech line??"

It's possible that BIC Acoustech line may be the biggest bargain in audio history. Possible, but highly unlikely. When you read the article from TMM world, you learn that the team that puts together Infinity (or any Harman) speakers has some of the finest speaker building resources on planet earth and has the most innovative subjective testing out there. It's then logical to wonder if the BIC speaker has even a small fraction of the sophistication, refinement and passion (read the white papers on Infinity's site to pick up on Floyd Toole's love for good sound) that is put into every audio product that comes out of that place. I find it amazing to think that most speakers are tested in pseudo-anechoic conditions and with sighted listening tests, while Harman products are tested in full-sized 4 pi anechoic environments then subjected to double-blind, head-to-head tests against leading competitors. There's a big difference between developing speakers with one speaker guru and a listening room versus Harman's cadre of music-loving Ph D's and batteries of DBT's in their multi-million dollar multi channel listening lab.

If the Primus 362's were veneered with decent looking wood (think Quad or Proac) they could sell them for $1500. The P360's embarrassed my Monitor Audio RS8's, which cost $1500.

Hopefully this encourages you to shop hard for some Primus's, ousooner! It will be worth the wait.

My modified Primus' I'm having built will be vennered in Teak.



Here is a diagram of the modifications being completed to them.

post #1219 of 3703
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Originally Posted by Matt34 View Post

My modified Primus' I'm having built will be vennered in Teak.



Here is a diagram of the modifications being completed to them.


How much is that modification going to cost per speaker? If you don't mind me asking?
post #1220 of 3703
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Originally Posted by calnbs View Post

How much is that modification going to cost per speaker? If you don't mind me asking?

Including the price of the JL 8W7 and the new ribbon tweeter around $1800 for both.
post #1221 of 3703
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Originally Posted by L4stM4nSt4nding View Post



I tried to order two 362s from Fry's last night and I kept getting a website error. Their website is complete trash through and through. Now, they're sold out... It'd be so much easier to get this $99/speaker deal if I could actually go to a B&M store, but alas, I live on the east coast and we don't have any Fry's here.


I found this site where you can order the 362's at a rather low price. Please note that I have never ordered from this site so do not offer any personal endorsement whatsoever.

http://www.electronics-expo.com/inde...d=INFPRIMUS362
post #1222 of 3703
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Originally Posted by markwriter View Post

wow, that is a cool setup!!!

Thanks, markwriter!!
post #1223 of 3703
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Originally Posted by Matt34 View Post

My modified Primus' I'm having built will be vennered in Teak.

Good grief, Matt. You're using Wmax's recommendations on steroids. With that woofer at the bottom, you're turning these puppies into full range speakers and then some.

$1800 is AV123 Rocket, Def Tech, miniStrata, Cascade, RtiA9, B&W, KEF, (not Tannoy or Thiele), RBH, Axiom M80, etc. money.
post #1224 of 3703
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Originally Posted by allargon View Post

Good grief, Matt. You're using Wmax's recommendations on steroids. With that woofer at the bottom, you're turning these puppies into full range speakers and then some.

$1800 is AV123 Rocket, Def Tech, miniStrata, Cascade, RtiA9, B&W, KEF, (not Tannoy or Thiele), RBH, Axiom M80, etc. money.

Who you think is building them?

Objectively they should compare to Revel Studio 2.
post #1225 of 3703
How are you going to handle the veneering? Are you adhering it directly to the existing vinyl?
post #1226 of 3703
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Originally Posted by markwriter View Post

How are you going to handle the veneering? Are you adhering it directly to the existing vinyl?


The old vinyl will be removed and the new veneer will be replacing it as I understand it.
post #1227 of 3703
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Originally Posted by Matt34 View Post


Here is a diagram of the modifications being completed to them.

That looks very impressive! And expensive

Would you suggest filling the cabinet base with some lead shot to minimize some of the resonances as a cheaper alternative?
post #1228 of 3703
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Originally Posted by Matt34 View Post

The old vinyl will be removed and the new veneer will be replacing it as I understand it.

OK, that sounds very interesting. How would one get rid of the vinyl veneer? Take a heat gun to it or something? This is a very interesting idea.
post #1229 of 3703
If you are going to do that much modding why not build statements or mini-statements?

Or is it just a matter of: "because I can"? Because I understand that as well. Sometimes the journey is more important than the destination.

Who's redoing your crossover for you?
post #1230 of 3703
I know this is a bit in left field but I was wondering if any other P362 owner have notice a change in sound quality going from a lower end reciever to a mid to high end reciever. I used to have a Pioneer VSX-816 hooked up to these speakers and they sounded pretty bad...no mid bass and quiet dull..but one I got my Pioneer Elite VSX-01TXH They sounded 100% better. I get great mid-low bass without my sub on. My girlfriend can actually tolerate the bass with these and she has grown quiet fond of them. Clarity inproved dramatically....clearer and crisper...I just can't explain it, you would have to hear the difference. So what are your experiences?
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