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post #121 of 4855
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

I, for one, was wondering when they were going to start limiting them after the second time they made that claim during the show. When they came back for the last segment and claimed there would be no more interruptions, I thought "Oh great. Big deal. They're giving us a whole 10 minutes with no commercials."

Sorry it wasn't to your liking, but there were only 3 commercial breaks. I felt like we got more show than a normal show (which gets, what, 5 or 6 commercial breaks?)
post #122 of 4855
finally got around to seeing this tonight. it was awesome! i REALLY liked it. this could easily be my favorite show on television if they play their cards right, and the first episode was definitely a step in the right direction
post #123 of 4855
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Originally Posted by talbain View Post

finally got around to seeing this tonight. it was awesome! i REALLY liked it. this could easily be my favorite show on television if they play their cards right, and the first episode was definitely a step in the right direction

Completely agree.
post #124 of 4855
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Actually, The 4400 is produced and owned by CBS/Paramount TV and is sold to USA Network for distribution in the US.

Stupid on CBS part, why give away a winner?
post #125 of 4855
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Originally Posted by Wytchone View Post

Stupid on CBS part, why give away a winner?

There's a distinction between the production aspect of the company of the TV network aspect. For example, 20th Century Fox produces many shows that air on a variety of networks, not just Fox.
post #126 of 4855
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Originally Posted by Wytchone View Post

Stupid on CBS part, why give away a winner?

It's very common for production houses affiliated with one network to sell shows to other networks. NBC/Universal has ownership and distribution control for "House" for example, and is syndicated on USA Network, a NBC/Uni property. "House" is one of the FOX network's top shows.
post #127 of 4855
I forgot thanks for clearing that up.
post #128 of 4855
Plus, with tv show DVD sales being such a big deal these days, the production and distribution companies stand to make big bucks on that end.
post #129 of 4855
Well mostly my point was being that CBS has a larger budget and thus could have made the 4400 a even bigger hit. They would have had the jump on Lost, Heroes, etc and would be the standard others compare to and still making big bucks on DVD sales.

4400 is great but with the lack of full seasons and the length between them it reminds me of the Soprano's but with out the larger following.

Hope that cleared that up
post #130 of 4855
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Originally Posted by Wytchone View Post

Well mostly my point was being that CBS has a larger budget and thus could have made the 4400 a even bigger hit. They would have had the jump on Lost, Heroes, etc and would be the standard others compare to and still making big bucks on DVD sales.

4400 is great but with the lack of full seasons and the length between them it reminds me of the Soprano's but with out the larger following.

Hope that cleared that up

But remember one thing, CBS sold The 4400 to the USA network where it has averaged 4 to 5 million viewers. Those are numbers CBS does not like to see. It would have been canceled way before the 6th episode of the original mini-series aired. By selling it to USA they make money and USA makes money by it being a hit. Everyone is happy. Cable gives shows a much better chance to stay alive because they don't look for the ratings the networks look for. Until this week it was unheard of a Cable channel beating the big 4 during the regular season during any hour.
post #131 of 4855
You are correct. I always forget the short sightedness of the networks.
post #132 of 4855
Finally caught the premiere. Liked it a lot. So did the Wife

The only distraction was a friend kept yelling, "Remember the Titans" every time the cheerleader was on screen. Needless to say, he won't be watching with us next time.
post #133 of 4855
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Originally Posted by nuttyinnyc View Post

But remember one thing, CBS sold The 4400 to the USA network where it has averaged 4 to 5 million viewers. Those are numbers CBS does not like to see. It would have been canceled way before the 6th episode of the original mini-series aired. By selling it to USA they make money and USA makes money by it being a hit. Everyone is happy. Cable gives shows a much better chance to stay alive because they don't look for the ratings the networks look for. Until this week it was unheard of a Cable channel beating the big 4 during the regular season during any hour.

Very true. Even (arguably) the best show on TV, Battlestar Galactica, would likely buckle under the ratings pressures of the Big 4. What's worse, even the slightest rating pressure usually prompts meddling in the show's creative aspects. That's why we have a whole lot of the same thing on TV today - it's the attitude of "If you aren't #1 in the ratings, be more like the #1". Instead of Dramas or Sitcoms, the networks will be developing shows that are in the 4 new categories: Lostish, Houseish, Gray'sish or CSIish. The creative producers will fund shows that combine 2 or 3 of those categories.
post #134 of 4855
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Originally Posted by raaj View Post

You saying Invasion, Surface and Threshold were basically the same show is like saying Saving Private Ryan, Apocalypse Now and Full Metal Jacket are basically the same movie, just because they were all wartime movies. I have to at such generalization.

Maybe Friends and Everybody Loves Raymond are basically the same show - afterall they both are sitcoms.

While those shows are not exactly the same, they certainly fall within the same catagory/genre. BSG, Lost and 24 are strongly influencing the face of TV right now. New programs are blending ideas from other successful shows (Jericho is a prime example), if not outright copycatting 'em.
post #135 of 4855
Just watched the premier.

I enjoyed it and will be back.

So far, this and "Smith" have been the standouts. (IMO)
post #136 of 4855
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

Very true. Even (arguably) the best show on TV, Battlestar Galactica, would likely buckle under the ratings pressures of the Big 4. What's worse, even the slightest rating pressure usually prompts meddling in the show's creative aspects. That's why we have a whole lot of the same thing on TV today - it's the attitude of "If you aren't #1 in the ratings, be more like the #1". Instead of Dramas or Sitcoms, the networks will be developing shows that are in the 4 new categories: Lostish, Houseish, Gray'sish or CSIish. The creative producers will fund shows that combine 2 or 3 of those categories.

Even worse, the audience is faddish and fickle. Including me. I've long since tired of the CSI's and recently even started losing patience with House as he gets more extreme.

- Tom
post #137 of 4855
I'm not going to be able to watch tonight. Anyone know if there is going to be a repeat?
post #138 of 4855
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Originally Posted by spike jones View Post

I'm not going to be able to watch tonight. Anyone know if there is going to be a repeat?

Friday on Sci-FI at 6pm CST

Also you can catch it on the website the next day I believe.

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/
post #139 of 4855
I guess owning SciFi as well as BSG doing well has encouraged NBC to have this type of show (I can't help thinking how they will handle the X-Men similarities). However, I agree with some that it may not survive being on NBC. It will definitely do well on SciFi, I guess. I'll have to see.

Hong.
post #140 of 4855
anyone else experiencing voice lag and the whole show in SD?
post #141 of 4855
Yeah, I am in DC too, total audio sync issues and SD. Been that way since the start of the show. Tried both OTA and DISH HD Locals. Same deal.
post #142 of 4855
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Originally Posted by Jimmie Perkins View Post

Yeah, I am in DC too, total audio sync issues and SD. Been that way since the start of the show. Tried both OTA and DISH HD Locals. Same deal.


So its not me then, I guess that's comforting but still messed up.
post #143 of 4855
I have D* and it is looking pretty bad. The camera goes all blurry when it moves quickly and there is bad pixelation going on. There is no doubt that D*is cutting the feed here and it is very evident. I am getting pretty annoyed with the obviously low bitrates with D*, but what can you do?
post #144 of 4855
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Originally Posted by rustyk111 View Post

I have D* and it is looking pretty bad. The camera goes all blurry when it moves quickly and there is bad pixelation going on. There is no doubt that D*is cutting the feed here and it is very evident. I am getting pretty annoyed with the obviously low bitrates with D*, but what can you do?


Its no good OTA either so hold off burning down the dish
post #145 of 4855
Haven't gotten it yet on the West Coast, so I don't know if we'll have the same problem you did.

But I continue to be astounded at these kinds of reports (a number of which I've also seen out west), and the number and frequency of screwups from NBC/HD out of NYC... especially at the beginning of a new season, with brand new shows that are trying to get viewers and ratings and ad buyers, with all primetime in HD so there's really no excuse.

Just inexcusable.

Just unbelievable.

Must be the same rocket scientists in charge who've adjusted their audio levels so low and think that's good.
post #146 of 4855
fixed now at the 45min mark good work nbc
post #147 of 4855
I agree. It's unbelievable how badly NBC is screwing up their very own programming. Last week's debut episode was marred badly by, of all things, the voice track (and the voice track only) being missing from the first 10 minutes or so of Heroes and now in the second episode they are unable to broadcast in HD for more than 10 minutes...

Pathetic...

YY
post #148 of 4855
no complaints here on OTA in Miami. PQ was fine and so was the audio.
post #149 of 4855
No problems here in Charlotte on WCNC
post #150 of 4855
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Originally Posted by Jimmie Perkins View Post

Yeah, I am in DC too, total audio sync issues and SD. Been that way since the start of the show. Tried both OTA and DISH HD Locals. Same deal.

Worked fine in NYC
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