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post #2101 of 4928
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Originally Posted by PeterS View Post

I must applaud Robert for this AMAZING customer service. Though there is nothing here for me personally to take advantage of, I can easily see how it would be extremely beneficial to many.

My hat's off sir!

Is there any particular reason for the secretiveness? I'm waiting to hear myself, but no e-mail. Feel free to ruin the "surprise".
post #2102 of 4928
I do appreciate Robert's offer. It's not like he's the one that needs to give us any deals. It's Toshiba that should be kissing our butts for pre-ordering their products.

If I didn't already have the 360 add on, I would have considered one of the deals, but since I have it, I can't see me taking advantage of any of the offers.

I'll just stick with the add-on for now.
post #2103 of 4928
Please, whats the deal with Robert?
post #2104 of 4928
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Originally Posted by wfujosh View Post

Is there any particular reason for the secretiveness? I'm waiting to hear myself, but no e-mail. Feel free to ruin the "surprise".

It's specifically said not to post any details. Sorry.
post #2105 of 4928
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Originally Posted by metalsaber View Post

It's specifically said not to post any details. Sorry.

Well feel free to PM me. With this and no e-mail forthcoming, I'm ready to cancel on principle, but Robert's such a good guy I wanted to give him the chance and hear from him first.
post #2106 of 4928
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Originally Posted by blackmax2k1 View Post

Silver lining my butt. That's all I'm going to say.

I agree on that...
post #2107 of 4928
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Originally Posted by wfujosh View Post

Well feel free to PM me. With this and no e-mail forthcoming, I'm ready to cancel on principle, but Robert's such a good guy I wanted to give him the chance and hear from him first.

If you don't get the email, just PM or call him for the details.
post #2108 of 4928
Yep no e-mail here either.

Jim
post #2109 of 4928
Help here guys...

What player do you think is more worth it, the HDA2 or the AX1?
post #2110 of 4928
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Originally Posted by Chepekenobi View Post

Help here guys...

What player do you think is more worth it, the HDA2 or the AX1?

A2 if it ever gets released. Assuming you can use Audio over HDMI
post #2111 of 4928
I only just now got the email.. I expect it will take a while for that many emails to get sent.

While none of the inidividual offers are ones I'll take him up on, I will say this to the rest of you posting negative comments:

THIS IS TOSHIBA'S DROPPED BALL, NOT ROBERTS. IF YOU WANT TO ALIENATE A VENDOR DOING HIS BEST TO PROVIDE GOOD SERVICE AND VALUE TO HIS CUSTOMERS DESPITE BEING CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE, THEN KEEP UP YOUR SMART-ASS REMARKS.

Otherwise, try to stop b!tching like little girls, and either take him up on his offer, or don't. If you don't like the situation, call TOSHIBA and see what compensation THEY give you.

Oh, and keep in mind that when you want a Gen-III player in '07, how you treat Robert here today will have a big impact on if you have him around to offer a fair price, good service, and additional incentive then.
post #2112 of 4928
Got the e-mail here.
Frankly, I think it's an amazing deal.
I'm considering taking one, not sure yet.
Not sure yet simply because Robert doesn't owe us anything. He gave a nice deal on pre-orders, and the delay is totally beyond his control and not of his doing. He went above and beyond to put this together in such a short time.
I'm also not sure yet because, well, he asked that we don't post details. If I say anymore, I'd be doing just that.
I'm also not sure yet because my life doesn't revolve around having an HD DVD player now as opposed to a month from now.
Some of you really need to chill out over this whole thing.
And read the offer and think......it really is quite good!

Thanks Robert!

Jack
post #2113 of 4928
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Originally Posted by scaesare View Post

I only just now got the email.. I expect it will take a while for that many emails to get sent.

While none of the inidividual offers are ones I'll take him up on, I will say this to the rest of you posting negative comments:

THIS IS TOSHIBA'S DROPPED BALL, NOT ROBERTS. IF YOU WANT TO ALIENATE A VENDOR DOING HIS BEST TO PROVIDE GOOD SERVICE AND VALUE TO HIS CUSTOMERS DESPITE BEING CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE, THEN KEEP UP YOUR SMART-ASS REMARKS.

Otherwise, try to stop b!tching like little girls, and either take him up on his offer, or don't. If you don't like the situation, call TOSHIBA and see what compensation THEY give you.

Oh, and keep in mind that when you want a Gen-III player in '07, how you treat Robert here today will have a big impact on if you have him around to offer a fair price, good service, and additional incentive then.


Well said!
post #2114 of 4928
All I can say is Thanks. I have never dealt with an individual that cared about his customers the way they do. He fought for us. See if your PS3 preorder don't get filled on launch day will Sony compensate anyone. NOOOO
post #2115 of 4928
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Originally Posted by scaesare View Post


While none of the inidividual offers are ones I'll take him up on.

Exactly, how many people will? With all the hype from Robert I thought it was something everybody could benefit from. I preordered the A2 for a reason. I still will support Robert and his business though.
post #2116 of 4928
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Originally Posted by trgraphics View Post

I wasn't talking about the members of this forum.

The best way to attract new customers is to offer a discount if they pre-order the units now. Look at the excitement Robert has generated just by hinting that some kind of deal was coming for people that pre-ordered from him.

Advertising alone, for a product that you can't get, makes little since to me.

Sales oriented advertising without product on hand is definitely a mistake (can result in sales for the competition). All you can do at that time is information/education based advertising. Also a balancing act since the money needs to be there when product actually arrives. My guess is the marketing group was aware of the delay long before the dealers were.
post #2117 of 4928
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Originally Posted by metalsaber View Post

A2 if it ever gets released. Assuming you can use Audio over HDMI

I don't have a hdmi receiver, so my only options are optical or analog.
post #2118 of 4928
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Originally Posted by Chepekenobi View Post

I don't have a hdmi receiver, so my only options are optical or analog.

Then the Gen 1 is probably your best bet. Then either pick up an G2 when they drop in price or wait it out till the G3s are here.

For me personally the G1 is a step back.
post #2119 of 4928
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Originally Posted by Chepekenobi View Post

I don't have a hdmi receiver, so my only options are optical or analog.

then get the XA1 cause it's a great deal
post #2120 of 4928
Thank you guys!

I guess it will be the AX1, and thanks Robert for giving me an excellent option!
post #2121 of 4928
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Originally Posted by scaesare View Post

I only just now got the email.. I expect it will take a while for that many emails to get sent.

While none of the inidividual offers are ones I'll take him up on, I will say this to the rest of you posting negative comments:

THIS IS TOSHIBA'S DROPPED BALL, NOT ROBERTS. IF YOU WANT TO ALIENATE A VENDOR DOING HIS BEST TO PROVIDE GOOD SERVICE AND VALUE TO HIS CUSTOMERS DESPITE BEING CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE, THEN KEEP UP YOUR SMART-ASS REMARKS.

Otherwise, try to stop b!tching like little girls, and either take him up on his offer, or don't. If you don't like the situation, call TOSHIBA and see what compensation THEY give you.

Oh, and keep in mind that when you want a Gen-III player in '07, how you treat Robert here today will have a big impact on if you have him around to offer a fair price, good service, and additional incentive then.


Well said.
post #2122 of 4928
I took him up on the offer. I don't have HDMI at all, so analog is the way to go. The free movies were a nice kick but this deal more than makes up for it.
post #2123 of 4928
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Originally Posted by Qui-Gon Jim View Post

I took him up on the offer. I don't have HDMI at all, so analog is the way to go. The free movies were a nice kick but this deal more than makes up for it.


Me too.. My XA1 arrives at my house in less than 48 hrs!
post #2124 of 4928
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Originally Posted by darinp2 View Post

Here is what Robert said yesterday before giving the 69,000 number later:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...87#post8889587

If the deal is more G1 players and after that the result is 70,000 G1 players, then I think that is somewhat contradictory to claiming "70,000 G1 players in the market" and "more HD DVD hardware". Yes, I know that people could claim that the 70,000 was rounded, but then the "more" doesn't really result in more than the claim already made.

Okay, I just found a post from 7 weeks ago from Robert here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post8525471

that said:
I know Robert is a nice guy, but 6 weeks ago the claim was that they had sold 70,000 just in the US and now when they have a slip the number changes to 69,000 out there with 1,000 left to sell. What happened over the last 7 weeks? And if they only had parts for 70,000 then have they sold zero outside the US?

Sorry, but this doesn't add up.

--Darin

Daren,

I stand corrected. However, the difference you are talking about is only 2000 units, 68,000 were shipped into distribution at the time of the post. What I did not know about at that time, was TACP's XA1s inventory. Considering that TACP's A1's and D1 and RCA's 5000's have been sold out since the middle of September I had a good basis to go on.

At that time my answer was more than 97 percent correct to the exact number. I think it was an excellent report. My most recent post you referenced, I came in 100% correct.

When making industry estimates even with educated information, calculating sales numbers when no official company statement leads me to support my information as pretty good.

-Robert
post #2125 of 4928
Robert,

Do you know how many Toshiba has sold outside the US? Did they only build 70,000 total as has been stated before?

--Darin
post #2126 of 4928
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Originally Posted by darinp2 View Post

What? MS does a great job of convincing people of certain things here.

--Darin


That's called "community management" but now we're opening up a can of worms
post #2127 of 4928
I believe you can still get the three free movies form Toshiba with the XA1.
post #2128 of 4928
Robert, I never met ya or bought anything from your store (Canuck here), but I just gotta tell you that we need more people like you up here. If you ever move up to Ontario, let me know, eh! Keep up the great work man, I have a feeling that you make a tremendous difference to the HD DVD community.
post #2129 of 4928
Nice. Those getting the XA1, this is a beautiful player. Watching Waterworld right now and awesome awesome picture and audio....best AV value I've owned :-)
post #2130 of 4928
Does anyone know whether or not you still have to buy the A2 if you take one of the other offers from Robert?
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