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post #31 of 4928
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Originally Posted by EchoBaseGeek View Post

Thanks Robert!
As long as the 999 player delivers in performance and qaulity sign me up...

Go to http://www.*********************/Tosh...and_HD-XA2.htm

-Robert
post #32 of 4928
How does the XA2 do 1080p/24? Does it go thru the 1080i/60 - de-intelace - framerate conversion (similar to the Sammy BD player)? Or is it actually able to extract 1080p/24 off-disc? If the second is true, how does it handle PiP, when the small window is 1080i video, etc? And a previous poster already asked, but is 1080p/60 also available, or only /24?
post #33 of 4928
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Originally Posted by DigitalfreakNYC View Post

Robert,
A little off topic but can we expect any other "surprises" over the next couple of days?

Yes.

-Robert
post #34 of 4928
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Originally Posted by rover2002 View Post

Are you lost? maybe you can find a witty comeback there?


How about go forth and multiply?
post #35 of 4928
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Originally Posted by DTV TiVo Dealer View Post

Go to http://www.*********************/Tosh...and_HD-XA2.htm

-Robert

Already discounted, w/2 free HD DVDs! I'm in...
post #36 of 4928
Great news. I will be definitely buying the X2 for Xmas (rhymes doesn't it?) and 2 of the Xbox 360 with the internal HD DVD whenever that comes out, one for the son and one for the dad.
post #37 of 4928
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Originally Posted by Enigma View Post

How does the XA2 do 1080p/24? Does it go thru the 1080i/60 - de-intelace - framerate conversion (similar to the Sammy BD player)? Or is it actually able to extract 1080p/24 off-disc? If the second is true, how does it handle PiP, when the small window is 1080i video, etc? And a previous poster already asked, but is 1080p/60 also available, or only /24?

Hal, I'll find out. I'm off the the floor to speak to the engineers and product specialists and to see if their are any other HD DVD players from other manufacturers.

See you all in about an hour.

Keep asking questions.

-Robert
post #38 of 4928
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Originally Posted by DTV TiVo Dealer View Post

Hal, I'll find out. I'm off the the floor to speak to the engineers and product specialists and to see if their are any other HD DVD players from other manufacturers.

See you all in about an hour.

Keep asking questions.

-Robert

post #39 of 4928
If only the XA2 had 7.1 analog out. That would of been sweet.
post #40 of 4928
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Originally Posted by rover2002 View Post

It seems we pay more now for the same? and no 5.1 on the A2. . .
Forgot to thank you for your good reporting btw

All it means is that the early adopter got more for his/her money! What's wrong with that? I would call it fair compensation for having to deal with the travails of the very first generation. At least you curently have the option to go either way -- there are always compromises. There's nothing to complain about.

-- Trevor
post #41 of 4928
I for one will be very disapointed if the HD-A1 is not upgraded to 1080p24 native output with a firmware revision.... Seems doubtfull as the new lower cost model does not have that ability.
post #42 of 4928
OUCH!!!
I was hoping to get a XA2 but $999? Ok Robert is offering it for $899 pre-sale but still.I guess its save awhile longer or go for the A2 or else hold out for a Liteon HD-DVD player if one comes along.
I agree with a previous poster,I think Toshiba took acouple steps back with this price jump.
Thanks for the great info though Robert!!
Now does anyone have some pic's for us??
post #43 of 4928
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Originally Posted by DTV TiVo Dealer View Post

Yes.

-Robert

haha...like Batman, i guess
post #44 of 4928
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Originally Posted by vinodk View Post

I agree that it is a serious oversight on Toshiba's part not to include analog 5.1 inputs on A2 as many consumers still have receivers and prepro's without HDMI swiching. Glad I bought my second HD-XA1 recently at a good price. As long as Toshiba keeps providing firmware upgrades for G1 units, I will be happy.

Not at all, those people also have S/PDIF inputs which providee very capable multi-channel. Nothing shabby about 640Kbps DD or better yet 1.5Mbps DTS.

-- Trevor
post #45 of 4928
Release dates?
Thanks.
post #46 of 4928
I thought the DAC on the high end unit was improved for better SD DVD upconversion to 12bit-286 from 12bit-216.
Is this wrong?
post #47 of 4928
Robert,

Some questions.

Will the XA2 support 1080p24sf output? Or only 1080p24/60?
Any chance of DLNA support on either unit for playing from a PC (a la the Pioneer BD-DVD)?

What is the build quality like as compared to the existing units (your opinion)?

Thanks
post #48 of 4928
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Originally Posted by DTV TiVo Dealer View Post

Go to http://www.*********************/Tosh...and_HD-XA2.htm

-Robert

Robert, when I try to add the HD-XA2 to the shopping cart it brings me to the HD-A1 page. Same with the HD-A2.

Harry
post #49 of 4928
Are the new units utilizing software on a chip or are they still essentially PC's?

It's great to hear that they will load disc's faster but how long do they take to boot?
post #50 of 4928
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Originally Posted by DTV TiVo Dealer View Post

Hal, I'll find out. I'm off the the floor to speak to the engineers and product specialists and to see if their are any other HD DVD players from other manufacturers.

Thanks. If it can get 1080p/24 straight off discs it would be a major coup, IMO (even if PiP is dis-abled for that output).
post #51 of 4928
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Originally Posted by Enigma View Post

How does the XA2 do 1080p/24? Does it go thru the 1080i/60 - de-intelace - framerate conversion (similar to the Sammy BD player)? Or is it actually able to extract 1080p/24 off-disc? If the second is true, how does it handle PiP, when the small window is 1080i video, etc? And a previous poster already asked, but is 1080p/60 also available, or only /24?

I would be totally amazed if they took the route of converting p24 to i60 to p24.

Since the Broadcom has the ability to directly pass the native p24, I'm sure that's what they did. Without p60, they wouldn't even need an additional chip.

-- Trevor
post #52 of 4928
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Originally Posted by ay221 View Post

If only the XA2 had 7.1 analog out. That would of been sweet.

Now you talking, then that would make way for a third player in the middle with 5.1 but no 1.3HDMI at a more reasonable $799 price point
post #53 of 4928
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Originally Posted by LJG View Post

I for one will be very disapointed if the HD-A1 is not upgraded to 1080p24 native output with a firmware revision.... Seems doubtfull as the new lower cost model does not have that ability.

We don't currently have any reason to presume such a firmware upgrade is possible. It would depend on the specific design implimented around the Broadcom chip. From our position, it's a total crap-shoot.

-- Trevor
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From the Article:
"On October 10 Warner Home Video will release the 2005 blockbuster "Batman Begins," which includes brand new content in the In Movie Experience (IME), allowing consumers to enjoy this movie in a brand new way. On the same day, the popular animated holiday feature film "Polar Express," starring Tom Hanks, will make its debut in the HD DVD format."

Hmmm. Can we get a confirmation of this (especially for Batman)?
J
post #57 of 4928
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Originally Posted by BIG ED View Post

Release dates?
Thanks.

3 weeks
post #58 of 4928
I'm glad to see the article mentions both RCA and Toshiba. I was a little concerned RCA could be bowing out.

"These new players compliment the existing roster of Toshiba and RCA/Thomsen HD DVD players on the market today."

As long as they are in, HDV-5000 owners should continue to have updates made available.

-- Trevor
post #59 of 4928
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Originally Posted by TrevorS View Post

I would be totally amazed if they took the route of converting p24 to i60 to p24.

Since the Broadcom has the ability to directly pass the native p24, I'm sure that's what they did. Without p60, they wouldn't even need an additional chip.

It would seem to be a tortuous path, but I've read some posts previously by folks who IMO know what they are talking about who seemed to think that native 1080p/24 would be a difficult thing to get done off the disc, despite that apparently the Tosh laptop can do it. I hope that it is native off-disc. I would be a much more "videophile" solution, IMO.
post #60 of 4928
The DACs in the A1 aren't amazing or anything. I personally would be happy with DTS to a processor that has nice DACs until HDMI audio capable processors are easily available.

I would take a silent player over a player with analog outs.....during quiet scenes that would do a lot more for the sound in my room.

Any idea how loud the fan is in the A2?
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