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post #1801 of 6023
1/13/09 at 7:58pm
Thanks for the advice on the receivers guys. Boy, a lot of education for me.

Now the question I have is with accessories4less... Are they safe to go with? I see a deep discount on the KEF system but it states cosmetic imperfection. If anybody got any experience with them please let me know. I have read a lot of other people's feedbacks and they are almost all positive.

What do you think? Or should I just go buy something new (not opened) to be safe?
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post #1802 of 6023
1/13/09 at 8:48pm
ac4less is an authorized dealer for KEF speakers. You're safe purchasing from them. They get a lot of imperfections or open box items as well as new in box items but they all come with full mfrs warranty.

If you have doubts, give them a call about the speakers. They're known for good customer service. 800-657-0195
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post #1803 of 6023
1/13/09 at 9:51pm
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Originally Posted by tchen24 View Post

Thanks for the advice on the receivers guys. Boy, a lot of education for me.

Now the question I have is with accessories4less... Are they safe to go with? I see a deep discount on the KEF system but it states cosmetic imperfection. If anybody got any experience with them please let me know. I have read a lot of other people's feedbacks and they are almost all positive.

What do you think? Or should I just go buy something new (not opened) to be safe?

My rears are a pair of Kef 2001.2 bought from a4l. No problems, mine had no blemishes at all.

You could call to ask the extent of the blemishes and go for new (only $200 more) if you think they'll fail WAF inspection.

But odds are you won't be able to see anything unless you are standing beside the speaker doing a detailed inspection; certainly not when you're on the couch, with lights down watching a movie.
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post #1804 of 6023
1/13/09 at 9:56pm
I like brand new stuff.
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post #1805 of 6023
1/14/09 at 3:32am
Thanks for the response on accessories4less. You know what guys?! After discussing the 5005s with you I am having second thoughts about iQs. Let me dig up some room setup pictures for my wife. Maybe they are not that bad.

I must admit buying toys like this is so much fun!!!!!
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post #1806 of 6023
1/14/09 at 6:10am
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Originally Posted by tchen24 View Post

Thanks for the response on accessories4less. You know what guys?! After discussing the 5005s with you I am having second thoughts about iQs. Let me dig up some room setup pictures for my wife. Maybe they are not that bad.

If you have the room for iQ1/iQ2/iQ3/iQ5 the deals (best at Vanns, next is OneCall then a4l) are irresistable.

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I must admit buying toys like this is so much fun!!!!!

fun, yes

but very addicting

I've only had my setup for 7 months and I'm wondering about upgrades
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post #1807 of 6023
1/14/09 at 7:12am
Hey all you KEF fans i wanted to let you know we got an order of IQ's in (the old models) finishes and models are first come first serve... but for all you out there please email me or PM me and i can tell you what we got... i am doing special pricing because i know you guys have been trying to get them... Also please respect your local dealers... thanks! We are an authorized KEF dealer so no worries about warranties because you get it! And no hassles dealing with an online store... its all handled with us!
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post #1808 of 6023
1/14/09 at 8:13am
I really like the look of KEF's floorstanders. Would you recommend them for my small media room? 12.5'x13.5'

here's what I'm looking at:
(2) iQ7's
1 iQ6c

Here are the pics... from this...


to something like this...


I'd have to move the sub to the back. From wall to media cabinet is 22" on each side so they'd have to be pretty close to the corners of the room. I tried bookshelves sitting on the cabinet, but they just didn't look right. (Sounded great though (3 ascend sierras)
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post #1809 of 6023
1/14/09 at 8:18am
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Originally Posted by tpLouKY View Post

I really like the look of KEF's floorstanders. Would you recommend them for my small media room? 12.5'x13.5'

here's what I'm looking at:
(2) iQ7's
1 iQ6c

I'd have to move the sub to the back. From wall to media cabinet is 22" on each side so they'd have to be pretty close to the corners of the room. I tried bookshelves sitting on the cabinet, but they just didn't look right. (Sounded great though (3 ascend sierras)

Sub is always best in the front... ALWAYS... it sounds off in the back... i will have you a price in a few mins.... expect a PM... if you can swing it do IQ9's in that room it is big enough...
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post #1810 of 6023
1/14/09 at 8:21am
I know this is like crazy talk but... i have a pair of of Ref 207's i would like to move as well... in excellent shape not a thing wrong with them.... just need to bring in the new Ref series and have got good use out of these so willing to deal on these ones... These are series 1 Reference 207's
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post #1811 of 6023
1/14/09 at 8:33am
If you don't mind your media cabinet being off centre then you should be able to fit floorstanders, sub and cabinet all in front (since the top of your sub is lower than your screen).

What height is your screen? iQ5s are only 32", they might fit under it too.

I'd say go for the most iQx you can buy for your budget, be it from Vanns or our new friend pal1982.
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post #1812 of 6023
1/14/09 at 8:41am
Just a lil FYI i have alot more Dark Apple than any other color... so if your willing to go that way chances are i will have that model... other colors are well scarce
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post #1813 of 6023
1/14/09 at 9:02am
Hey i am here to help i have been a KEF dealer for over 6 years, they are a great line i got a good deal on the remaining IQ line i figured pass it on... plus if your not in TN there is no tax which saves ya, and i don't charge extra shipping, some companies do that to make their extra overhead... i just charge whatever come up on the UPS shipping meter... so no extra fee.
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post #1814 of 6023
1/14/09 at 9:14am
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Originally Posted by rick240 View Post

If you don't mind your media cabinet being off centre then you should be able to fit floorstanders, sub and cabinet all in front (since the top of your sub is lower than your screen).

What height is your screen? iQ5s are only 32", they might fit under it too.

I'd say go for the most iQx you can buy for your budget, be it from Vanns or our new friend pal1982.

What kind of sub are you using?
Also when its in the front of the room make sure you have it on 0 degree phase, on the side 90 degree or 180 degree depending on the side and in the back well... that can just be a whole new ball game.... usually some subs like we carry Dynaudio, they have a 270 degree setting and thats where you set it.
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post #1815 of 6023
1/14/09 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by tchen24 View Post

Thanks for the advice on the receivers guys. Boy, a lot of education for me.

Now the question I have is with accessories4less... Are they safe to go with? I see a deep discount on the KEF system but it states cosmetic imperfection. If anybody got any experience with them please let me know. I have read a lot of other people's feedbacks and they are almost all positive.

What do you think? Or should I just go buy something new (not opened) to be safe?

I just got my Onkyo 705 from them in perfect condition. It's an amazing sound. and a KEF 2001.2 egg. Both were fine. The KEFs had a couple of scuffs on the back, but not noticeable from a distance. If you are really just looking for aesthetics and a good enough sound I suggest you go with the KEF 5000, 3000, 2000, or 1000 depending on budget. They are more than adequate for most people.
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post #1816 of 6023
1/14/09 at 11:51am
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Originally Posted by pal1982 View Post

Sub is always best in the front... ALWAYS... it sounds off in the back... i will have you a price in a few mins.... expect a PM... if you can swing it do IQ9's in that room it is big enough...

In my room it sounds better in the back actually.

Kinda strange, but the room has a weird configuration. I think the crawl test is the best method to place a sub though.
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post #1817 of 6023
1/14/09 at 12:26pm
Bummer.

I just received my iQ1s (Walnut) from Vann's and the inside part of the front port was detached and rattling around inside the speaker.

I just called and got a RMA no problem, but now no iQ1s!

I guess that's the chance you take ordering from clearance. Has anyone else ever ordered from Vann's clearance?

I ordered a set of open box iQ3s from A4L a while back and they were just about perfect. I tiny scratch in the back of one speaker and that was it.

I guess you never know.
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post #1818 of 6023
1/14/09 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by carolinablues View Post

Bummer.

I just received my iQ1s (Walnut) from Vann's and the inside part of the front port was detached and rattling around inside the speaker.

I just called and got a RMA no problem, but now no iQ1s!

I guess that's the chance you take ordering from clearance. Has anyone else ever ordered from Vann's clearance?

I ordered a set of open box iQ3s from A4L a while back and they were just about perfect. I tiny scratch in the back of one speaker and that was it.

I guess you never know.

Don't chance it... that's always the gamble ordering with an internet company... true we are a little bit more... i think we are about the same as A4l but there is no guess work... we are all family owned me and my dad have been doing this for 6 years... check out our website... www.premieracousticlifestyles.com and read the testimonials and i have a ton of the 2C's as well! If you need walnut i can still get it straight from KEF they have VERY LIMITED quanities!
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post #1819 of 6023
1/14/09 at 2:10pm
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Don't chance it... that's always the gamble ordering with an internet company... true we are a little bit more... i think we are about the same as A4l but there is no guess work... we are all family owned me and my dad have been doing this for 6 years... check out our website... www.premieracousticlifestyles.com and read the testimonials and i have a ton of the 2C's as well! If you need walnut i can still get it straight from KEF they have VERY LIMITED quanities!

I'm certainly not going to report you, pal1982, but I think you are pushing the boundaries of the forum rules, here. Just a friendly warning.
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post #1820 of 6023
1/15/09 at 1:24pm
I'm comparing these sets, and am puzzled by a few things. Please forgive me if these questions have been discussed somewhere in the 60-odd pages of this terrific thread:

1) Seems 3005 satellites have slightly bigger driver (4.25" vs 4"), same tweeter and (unlike the 2005s) a three-way centre. The FR for the 3005 is listed at 70Hz to 55 kHz, versus 80 - 27 kHz for the 2005 -- seems to be a big difference.

2) The higher-priced ($2,000) 5005 set has smaller Uni-Q drivers than the 2005 and 3005 (3 inch), although all the speakers are three-way. Can anyone advise on how all this factors out? Is the 3005 worth the extra $ over the 2005, and is the 5005 worth the extra $ over the others?

3) I just bought the Pioneer 1018. Is it powerful enough for all of these sets? It's rated at 130 watts per channel, but with a continuous power output of 110 watts per channel at 8 ohms. The KEF 2005 satellites are rated at 100 watts.

Thanks for any advice. I've heard only the 2005s at this point, in a lousy big store showroom, and they were absolutely stunning to my ear.

js



Thanks for any advice. js
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post #1821 of 6023
1/15/09 at 3:46pm
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Originally Posted by journalista271 View Post

1) Seems 3005 satellites have slightly bigger driver (4.25" vs 4"), same tweeter and (unlike the 2005s) a three-way centre. The FR for the 3005 is listed at 70Hz to 55 kHz, versus 80 - 27 kHz for the 2005 -- seems to be a big difference.

Not a huge difference but, yes, different. The 3005 is the most popular setup.


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Originally Posted by journalista271 View Post

2) The higher-priced ($2,000) 5005 set has smaller Uni-Q drivers than the 2005 and 3005 (3 inch), although all the speakers are three-way. Can anyone advise on how all this factors out? Is the 3005 worth the extra $ over the 2005, and is the 5005 worth the extra $ over the others?

The 5005's are more expensive because decent performance and smaller costs more. And the 5005s are designed for a smaller niche market of people who want small and sleek looking.

The 3005s should outperform the 5005s. Are the 3005s worth the extra $ over the 2005s? Depends upon what prices you are able to get them for. As I said, the 3005s seem to be, by far, the more popular set. Check the online prices for the 2 sets.



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3) I just bought the Pioneer 1018. Is it powerful enough for all of these sets?

It's perfectly fine.
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post #1822 of 6023
1/15/09 at 7:26pm
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Dealing with a case of insomnia here, so I surfed over to Vann's and finally pulled the trigger on my speaker upgrades; iQ6c (last one in walnut, sorry,) and a pair of iQ7s. I can't wait to hook these babies up to my 805! (Retiring a very old set of Infinity RS-5 towers and a CC-2 from my front soundstage.) I was torn between the iQ5s and the iQ7s for the matching with the 6c, but I've heard that it's really the tweeter that matters more than the midrange for timbre matching, and the tweeters are identical across all of the iQ Uni-q drivers. And I couldn't pass up the full-size towers for $40 more. I'm sure Audyssey will smooth out any rough edges between the center and the front channels. It did a good job with the mismatched Infinity set (5.25" midrange in the fronts, 4.5" in the center.)

I had a set of Ebayed 3005 eggs that were damaged in shipping that finally went back to the post office for the insurance payout, which covered these new speakers. I liked the eggs, a dramatic improvement in the highs over the Infinities, but felt that they were lacking a bit in the bass department, even with my velo subwoofer working in tandem with the 3005's sub. Plus, my wife thought they were a bit strange looking, sitting on their spindly stands.

For now, I'm moving the Infinity set to the rear soundstage, where they'll live until I get a couple sets of iQ3s to take over.

Can't wait!

-P

iQ3s not available in walnut at Vanns. Black and maple.
They do have the side firing iQ8s (8?) in walnut. better jump now.
I got a iQ2 in walnut for $99 shipped !!!!!

Question for all;
I have a pair of old 901s that I plan on using as front speakers being the tight wad . Are the modern centers ( eg; iQ2) a match with these or am I trying to fit a square peg ? Are the iQ5 and 7s that much better?

PS; going to use a Motherthumper of a sub. Down to 17hz.
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post #1823 of 6023
1/15/09 at 7:42pm
Hi, my set-up is...

Marantz SR8002
Marantz BD8002
RDM 2`s front and rear
200C center
Servo-15 sub

I was thinking of upgrading to a RDM 3 for the fronts is it worth it ?

Thx Dave
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post #1824 of 6023
1/15/09 at 10:43pm
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Originally Posted by motogp34 View Post

Hi, my set-up is...

Marantz SR8002
Marantz BD8002
RDM 2`s front and rear
200C center
Servo-15 sub

I was thinking of upgrading to a RDM 3 for the fronts is it worth it ?

Thx Dave

Well, are you going to then go to 7.1? Hwo much are the used RDM3s going to cost you? There aren't many people here who have had any experience with the RDMs.
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post #1825 of 6023
1/15/09 at 10:44pm
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Originally Posted by lightguy View Post

Question for all;
I have a pair of old 901s that I plan on using as front speakers being the tight wad . Are the modern centers ( eg; iQ2) a match with these or am I trying to fit a square peg ? Are the iQ5 and 7s that much better?

Do the 901s have fabric tweeters? The newer KEFs with metal dome tweeters sound a lot different from the old KEFs.
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post #1826 of 6023
1/15/09 at 11:23pm
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Well, are you going to then go to 7.1? Hwo much are the used RDM3s going to cost you? There aren't many people here who have had any experience with the RDMs.

No, i would sell my RDM2 and replace them with the RDM3 ? there about $800
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post #1827 of 6023
1/16/09 at 3:43am
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Do the 901s have fabric tweeters? The newer KEFs with metal dome tweeters sound a lot different from the old KEFs.

Thanks for the consideration of your reply sivadselim.
Yes fabric. 9 per speaker ! This speaker is where Bose established itself.
I thought about this all night, literally. Going to retire them and go with iQs all around for the "oneness" feeling stated a few pages back. Now the next step. iQ1's or 3's. Prolly the 3's but they are 5 lbs more wall mounts all around and don't know if brackets are available for 3's. See them all the time for 1's.
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post #1828 of 6023
1/16/09 at 9:10am
Hey all. I just unpacked and hooked up my iQ7s!

Its freezing out, so I haven't listened to them yet. I'm going to let them warm up a little bit, while I head back to work. A couple quick observations. They are a little smaller that I expected (probably a plus for WAF). And I never picked up from the pics that is mid driver in the uniQ is different material than the woofer. I have no opinion on either of these, just some observations.

I have a couple quick questions.

1. Will they be OK sitting directly on a hardwood floor?

2. I do not want to open a can of worms, but what's the the word about leaving the grills on? I like them off for my bookshelves, but for the floorstanders, the kids will be able to get to them!!! They will be "on" for most of the time(for protection), but I'll probably take them off when I have the house to myself.

I will be cranking them up later!!!!!
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post #1829 of 6023
1/16/09 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by carolinablues View Post

Hey all. I just unpacked and hooked up my iQ7s!

Will they be OK sitting directly on a hardwood floor?

I suggest putting them on 4 little glue-on rubber disks that come with at least some of these speakers.
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post #1830 of 6023
1/16/09 at 12:34pm
I´ve got the IQ3 and think that it´s one of the best speakers for the money Paid only 200 for a pair
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