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post #4621 of 6029
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Originally Posted by toolskizm View Post

Hi guys, I'm looking for advice on a setup. I initially started a thread for open recommendations, but after looking at prices and reading numerous reviews, I think I'm going to try out KEF. Unfortunately, I have nowhere I can audition them, so I'll have to go off what I've read, etc. Unless of course someone knows a dealer in the Houston area..

You can check my setup here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1388468

I'm thinking of going with the (2)q300, (1)q600c, a sub (not sure which yet, but it will be 12"...hsu, rythmik, etc.) and possibly later for the rears, the q100.

I wanted some input on a receiver for a setup like this. Any suggestions? I understand Denon is a good match with KEF, but I'm not too familiar with home audio and how to match them up.

I think its more about the features you want, room correction could be one.
post #4622 of 6029
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Originally Posted by dancel View Post

I think its more about the features you want, room correction could be one.

Right, but what about the wattage. I mean would the Denon 3311 or 3312 be overkill for that setup? Or would I need something more like the 2312? Guess I just need a little direction. I really don't need 3d because I'm not sold on the whole idea really. The newest audyssey would be great to have and at least 5.1. HDMI inputs are a must and optical audio. I think most of these systems have all of these options though..
post #4623 of 6029
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Originally Posted by toolskizm View Post


Right, but what about the wattage. I mean would the Denon 3311 or 3312 be overkill for that setup? Or would I need something more like the 2312? Guess I just need a little direction. I really don't need 3d because I'm not sold on the whole idea really. The newest audyssey would be great to have and at least 5.1. HDMI inputs are a must and optical audio. I think most of these systems have all of these options though..

Any receiver out there right are 3d ready and wattage wise, go more if you need to get an external amp
post #4624 of 6029
Has anyone purchased their kef speakers from either onecall or accessories4less.com? Looking at the open box speakers to save a few dollars. Just curious the "luck" other might have had. Are the speakers in "like new" condition or or should i expect to see large cosmetic blemishes.
post #4625 of 6029
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Originally Posted by sivadselim View Post

How do they sound when running full-range without the sub?

Thanks for your reply. Still very bass light indeed running full range. I'm quite surprised. I ran them for about 2 months before getting the sub. I hoped the sub would fill in the hole - it certainly adds the very low stuff but still leaves a hole a little higher up.
post #4626 of 6029
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Originally Posted by benzjas View Post

Has anyone purchased their kef speakers from either onecall or accessories4less.com? Looking at the open box speakers to save a few dollars. Just curious the "luck" other might have had. Are the speakers in "like new" condition or or should i expect to see large cosmetic blemishes.

honestly, go down to your local place that sells KEF and negotiate a little A4L's price on some stuff for 'blemished' items is really good, but on the kef models its not great.. i live in canada (our audio prices are horrendously high) and I got within 100 bucks of a4l at the local place by giving them a4l's price and saying if they get close ill buy from them instead. the price of the q900s was a little high but they even beat a4l's price on teh q600c

and that was for new in box, not blemished items
post #4627 of 6029
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Originally Posted by benzjas View Post

Has anyone purchased their kef speakers from either onecall or accessories4less.com? Looking at the open box speakers to save a few dollars. Just curious the "luck" other might have had. Are the speakers in "like new" condition or or should i expect to see large cosmetic blemishes.

I can't say for sure because I haven't actually made a purchase from them, but I did email them with that question. Here's the response I got:
Hi

We have looked at the speakers and they are 100% like new with nothing wrong with them anywhere.

Regards,

Mark Sabbarese
Sales Manager
Accessories4less, Inc.

Can take it for what it's worth I guess..
post #4628 of 6029
Thanks. I was kinda thinking that maybe the case. I have dealt with polkaudios ebay store in the past with their "refurbished" speakers. When they arrive they are like new, if not brand new. I will head to my local dealer to see what prices they maybe able to match.
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Originally Posted by toolskizm View Post

I can't say for sure because I haven't actually made a purchase from them, but I did email them with that question. Here's the response I got:
Hi

We have looked at the speakers and they are 100% like new with nothing wrong with them anywhere.

Regards,

Mark Sabbarese
Sales Manager
Accessories4less, Inc.

Can take it for what it's worth I guess..
post #4629 of 6029
Anyone else want to chime in on a recommendation for AVR with my future setup?

(2)q300, (1)q600c, a sub (not sure which yet, but it will be 12"...hsu, rythmik, etc.) and possibly later for the rears, the q100.
post #4630 of 6029
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Originally Posted by toolskizm View Post

Anyone else want to chime in on a recommendation for AVR with my future setup?

(2)q300, (1)q600c, a sub (not sure which yet, but it will be 12"...hsu, rythmik, etc.) and possibly later for the rears, the q100.

very, very happy with my marantz sr5005
post #4631 of 6029
Anyone have suggestions for a good speaker stands for Q300s?
post #4632 of 6029
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Originally Posted by benzjas View Post

Has anyone purchased their kef speakers from either onecall or accessories4less.com? Looking at the open box speakers to save a few dollars. Just curious the "luck" other might have had. Are the speakers in "like new" condition or or should i expect to see large cosmetic blemishes.

I purchased (2) iq90, (2) iq30, and an iq60c from accessories4less a little over a year ago. They said like new but honestly they were flawless. For the price, their isn't a better deal IMO. Maybe I was lucky but I would recommend them to anyone. Good luck!
post #4633 of 6029
I was reading that for home theatre sound, you are supposed to angle your front left and right speakers facing the listening area. With the KEF T305 system wall mounted, how is this possible? With the left and right speakers on the wall, they would be forced to be pointing straight forward. Will I lose sound quality with these speakers by not being able to angle them toward my listening area? What is the ideal position to place the KEF T305 front left and right speakers for home theatre surround?
I want to put these on the wall but i don't want to lose sound quality. I'm thinking maybe i'm supposed to move them closer to the TV, but I don't want to lose the directional feeling. Please let me know any advice you may have.
Thanks
post #4634 of 6029
Hi Everyone, wanted some opinions on 2 options I can get KEF 1505s for around $600 bucks and KHT3005SE for $900 my question is it worth it to spend the 300 bucks for the 3005SE? or is the difference between the two not that noticeable?
post #4635 of 6029
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Originally Posted by Inf123 View Post

Hi Everyone, wanted some opinions on 2 options I can get KEF 1505s for around $600 bucks and KHT3005SE for $900 my question is it worth it to spend the 300 bucks for the 3005SE? or is the difference between the two not that noticeable?

There's really not a comparison. The 3005SE's have KEF's signature Uni-Q coincident driver, low-diffraction metal egg cabinets, and even polar response in all axes. And the best-sounding small speaker I've heard.

The other one's just a standard MTM.

Also, the "feet" of the 3005SE eggs double as wall mounts. It's really a clever speaker, both in terms of audio engineering and industrial design.
post #4636 of 6029
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Originally Posted by wywern209 View Post

there is no way that bi-wiring can give any benefit as the same power flows thru both wires meaning that the speaker isn't getting any more power than it did before. bi-amping has a much greater effect.

If the connector bridges fail, then buy-wiring might be beneficial. Otherwise, nope.

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Originally Posted by toolskizm View Post

I'm thinking of going with the (2)q300, (1)q600c, a sub (not sure which yet, but it will be 12"...hsu, rythmik, etc.) and possibly later for the rears, the q100.

For a front projector setup, get three identical front speakers. Why needlessly compromise performance of the most important part of the system?

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Originally Posted by toolskizm View Post

I wanted some input on a receiver for a setup like this. Any suggestions? I understand Denon is a good match with KEF, but I'm not too familiar with home audio and how to match them up.

Receivers, in terms of audio hardware, are all commodity parts. Most of them (be they from Denon, Pioneer, etc.) are even made in the same place today! But they perform well enough generally. There's only two things to look at: features (need 2 HDMI outs? AirPlay compatibility? HD radio tuner? etc.) and room correction. With speakers that have good pattern control in the midrange, like KEF Uni-Q based designs, I think the best current room correction software is Anthem's ARC.
post #4637 of 6029
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Originally Posted by DS-21 View Post

If the connector bridges fail, then buy-wiring might be beneficial. Otherwise, nope.



For a front projector setup, get three identical front speakers. Why needlessly compromise performance of the most important part of the system?



Receivers, in terms of audio hardware, are all commodity parts. Most of them (be they from Denon, Pioneer, etc.) are even made in the same place today! But they perform well enough generally. There's only two things to look at: features (need 2 HDMI outs? AirPlay compatibility? HD radio tuner? etc.) and room correction. With speakers that have good pattern control in the midrange, like KEF Uni-Q based designs, I think the best current room correction software is Anthem's ARC.

Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by compromising the front stage performance. Are you suggesting the 600c should be replaced with another q300 instead? I thought the 600c would fit best as a center channel and deliver a more powerful center stage with the other 6.5" q300s as opposed to a 200c with 5.25" drivers.
I ended up ordering the Denon 2312 and a pair of q300 for right now. I'm going to slowly purchase the rest of the system. I appreciate the input, I'd just like you to clarify on the fronstage comment if you don't mind. And if you're referring to the other user's comment about the floorstanding q700, I simply just can't afford that right now.
post #4638 of 6029
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Originally Posted by toolskizm View Post

Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by compromising the front stage performance. Are you suggesting the 600c should be replaced with another q300 instead? I thought the 600c would fit best as a center channel and deliver a more powerful center stage with the other 6.5" q300s as opposed to a 200c with 5.25" drivers.***.

There are two types of front stage setups:
(1) identical speakers for all three channels, at the same elevation and in the same orientation, and
(2) flawed

If you want to use three of the 600c's, that would work, too. I'd get three of the biggest ones in the line you can afford, whichever ones those end up being.

The point is, you don't have a television to fit around, so why would you use anything but identical speakers up front?
post #4639 of 6029
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Originally Posted by DS-21 View Post

There's really not a comparison. The 3005SE's have KEF's signature Uni-Q coincident driver, low-diffraction metal egg cabinets, and even polar response in all axes. And the best-sounding small speaker I've heard.

The other one's just a standard MTM.

Also, the "feet" of the 3005SE eggs double as wall mounts. It's really a clever speaker, both in terms of audio engineering and industrial design.

I'm going to be putting these in my bedroom for now (18ft x 14ft) when I eventually move out will these still be good enough to put in a family room? also what kind of receiver would you recommend? I didn't want to spend more then 300-400 (canadian) but I'd like it to have 3d passthrough since I have a 3dtv.
post #4640 of 6029
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Originally Posted by DS-21 View Post

There are two types of front stage setups:
(1) identical speakers for all three channels, at the same elevation and in the same orientation, and
(2) flawed

If you want to use three of the 600c's, that would work, too. I'd get three of the biggest ones in the line you can afford, whichever ones those end up being.

The point is, you don't have a television to fit around, so why would you use anything but identical speakers up front?

I see what you're saying after reading this article:
http://www.audioholics.com/education...valuation.html

I guess my problem is my screen isn't perforated. So even if I could upgrade to three 600c's or even q700s, I wouldn't be able to put them vertical as suggested in the article. But then what concerns me is having to put a driver like the q700 horizontal, wouldn't that be odd since the drivers aren't designed for that type of orientation? Since there are different drivers at the top as opposed to the bottom, there would be a different sound coming from the left center than the right center I would assume.
I guess it wouldn't really matter with the q600c vertical or horizontal though..
EDIT;And I could go with 3 q300s also. That's if they fill the room enough..guess I'll find out soon enough.

What I'll have to see is how these q300s fill the room, I know it seems like sounds travels quite a bit in my room..probably due to the vaulted ceilings and large openness. I plan to add some homemade acoustic panels to assist with that, and I know having carpet helps also.
post #4641 of 6029
Tool..If you were to go with 3 Q300s, would you place the "center" one horizontally or vertically. I was thinking of doing a similar set up. But can only get mine in horizontally, and not sure if that would effect the sound quality. I watched a video saying that the XQ series bookshelves can be placed horizontally with the same functionality. But not sure with the Q series...
post #4642 of 6029
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Originally Posted by toolskizm View Post

I see what you're saying after reading this article:

Just for some clarification............. KEF's horizontal center channel speakers, because of KEF's coincidentally-arrayed UniQ driver, suffer considerably less from most of the issues associated with horizontal center channel speakers. In fact, because of that driver, they sidestep most of them completely. Yes, three identical vertical speakers across the front is still ideal, no matter the speaker design. But I think you can rest assured that if you do need a horizontal speaker in the center postion, a KEF, with the UniQ driver, makes for a great center channel speaker.

And, yes, for the same reason, KEF's horizontally-oriented speakers can be used in any and all positions with very good results were you to have a specific need for horizontally-oriented speakers in locations besides your center speaker position.


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Originally Posted by benzjas View Post

Tool..If you were to go with 3 Q300s, would you place the "center" one horizontally or vertically. I was thinking of doing a similar set up. But can only get mine in horizontally, and not sure if that would effect the sound quality. I watched a video saying that the XQ series bookshelves can be placed horizontally with the same functionality. But not sure with the Q series...

It should work pretty well horizontally. Again, because of the coincidentally-arrayed UniQ driver, the speaker lends itself well to being flipped on its side. Now, because the driver is located toward the top of the cabinet in the standard vertical orientation the speaker's dispersion characteristics will not be identical to that when oriented horizontally. Still, it will not differ nearly as much as a standard bookshelf MT speaker's dispersion would when flipped on its side.

So, a horizontal Q300 is a reasonable option although, as I pointed out in the response above to toolskizm, because of the UniQ driver, KEF's horizontal center channel speakers are some of the better designs out there.




Point being, here, is that, yes, no matter the design, 3 identical vertical speakers across the front is obviously best. But, with the UniQ-equipped KEFs, you can be much less concerned with trying to achieve that and much less concerned with the issues that are usually associated with most of the more standard horizontally-oriented center channel speakers than you might be were you considering speakers from another manufacturer.
post #4643 of 6029
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Originally Posted by sivadselim View Post

Just for some clarification............. KEF's horizontal center channel speakers, because of KEF's coincidentally-arrayed UniQ driver, suffer considerably less from most of the issues associated with horizontal center channel speakers. In fact, because of that driver, they sidestep most of them completely. Yes, three identical vertical speakers across the front is still ideal, no matter the speaker design. But I think you can rest assured that if you do need a horizontal speaker in the center postion, a KEF, with the UniQ driver, makes for a great center channel speaker.

And, yes, for the same reason, KEF's horizontally-oriented speakers can be used in any and all positions with very good results were you to have a specific need for horizontally-oriented speakers in locations besides your center speaker position.


It should work pretty well horizontally. Again, because of the coincidentally-arrayed UniQ driver, the speaker lends itself well to being flipped on its side. Now, because the driver is located toward the top of the cabinet in the standard vertical orientation the speaker's dispersion characteristics will not be identical to that when oriented horizontally. Still, it will not differ nearly as much as a standard bookshelf MT speaker's dispersion would when flipped on its side.

So, a horizontal Q300 is a reasonable option although, as I pointed out in the response above to toolskizm, because of the UniQ driver, KEF's horizontal center channel speakers are some of the better designs out there.




Point being, here, is that, yes, no matter the design, 3 identical vertical speakers across the front is obviously best. But, with the UniQ-equipped KEFs, you can be much less concerned with trying to achieve that and much less concerned with the issues that are usually associated with most of the more standard horizontally-oriented center channel speakers than you might be were you considering speakers from another manufacturer.

Do you know if this is the same for the KEF T series T301s? I'm thinking about putting my front three speakers all horizontal. Any advice would be appreciated.
post #4644 of 6029
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Originally Posted by MM007 View Post

Do you know if this is the same for the KEF T series T301s?

Do they have a UniQ driver? If so, then yes.
post #4645 of 6029
Bought a Kef Refence Speaker from an individual, who purchased it from an authorized dealer. The speaker is still under warranty but broken. Can I go ahead and have it repaired?
post #4646 of 6029
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Originally Posted by exm View Post

Bought a Kef Refence Speaker from an individual, who purchased it from an authorized dealer. The speaker is still under warranty but broken. Can I go ahead and have it repaired?

Call up KEF America and ask. It's usually not too hard to get a live person who can direct you to a tech familiar with your speaker to help. Customer Service can probably answer whether your repairs are covered under warranty.
post #4647 of 6029
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Originally Posted by exm View Post

Bought a Kef Refence Speaker from an individual, who purchased it from an authorized dealer. The speaker is still under warranty but broken. Can I go ahead and have it repaired?

What are you asking, exactly? If the warranty is transferable? You need to talk to a dealer or KEF before you assume the repair will be covered.
post #4648 of 6029
I don't see why would the warranty be lost just because the product changed it's owner. Unless You bought it from another country it should still be covered
post #4649 of 6029
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Originally Posted by samanuel View Post

I don't see why would the warranty be lost just because the product changed it's owner. Unless You bought it from another country it should still be covered

Some products' warranties are transferable. Some aren't.
post #4650 of 6029
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Originally Posted by MM007 View Post

Do you know if this is the same for the KEF T series T301s? I'm thinking about putting my front three speakers all horizontal. Any advice would be appreciated.

No it doesn't use the Uni-Q driver. The KHT2005/3005 series does however.
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