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post #4711 of 6059
2/24/12 at 11:40am
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Good call on the auto body shop. I haven't thought of that. I did talk to a furniture refinisher and he can do it but I think the auto body shop would be cheaper. Yes, I will remove all drivers and components and probably even sand and primer it myself. Just have the shop paint and clear it for a smooth finish.

Pics when you're done, please.
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post #4712 of 6059
2/24/12 at 11:41am
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That probably doesn't make any sense but I don't have fancy technical terms to describe it.

"accurate" ;P

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Originally Posted by arshishb View Post

It is after all a sealed enclosure.

No, it's a bass reflex enclosure, no different from vented, only with passive radiators instead of pipes. And by running it full range, you're asking for a lot more output / motion out of the K900's coaxial midrange, which means that at higher SPLs you're modulating the tweeter's response.

It might seem counterintuitive but I would cross these at 100hz to two to four QUALITY subwoofers.
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post #4713 of 6059
2/24/12 at 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by Eternal Velocity View Post

"accurate" ;P



No, it's a bass reflex enclosure, no different from vented, only with passive radiators instead of pipes. And by running it full range, you're asking for a lot more output / motion out of the K900's coaxial midrange, which means that at higher SPLs you're modulating the tweeter's response.

It might seem counterintuitive but I would cross these at 100hz to two to four QUALITY subwoofers.

OK i can understand that for HT. What about music? I actually like the sound a LOT better without the sub. Yes, I have a good sub, its a Rythmik E15.

I am not running them at any high volumes, -30 to -25 max. Being in an apartment I don't have the luxury of shaking walls & pets :P
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post #4714 of 6059
2/25/12 at 8:42am
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Originally Posted by sivadselim View Post

What is this a picture of?

Ok, so it's small piece of rubber holding the grill in place. Behind it you can find normal philips screws. Mystery solved!
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post #4715 of 6059
2/25/12 at 10:02am
finally picked up my Q300s last week.. brings me to a full Q series 5.1 setup
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post #4716 of 6059
2/25/12 at 10:08am
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Ok, so it's small piece of rubber holding the grill in place. Behind it you can find normal philips screws. Mystery solved!

Ah. Makes sense, I guess. How did you get that piece out? Just slip something underneath and pry it out?
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post #4717 of 6059
2/25/12 at 10:09am
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Originally Posted by cream puff View Post

finally picked up my Q300s last week.. brings me to a full Q series 5.1 setup

Enjoy!
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post #4718 of 6059
2/25/12 at 4:57pm
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finally picked up my Q300s last week.. brings me to a full Q series 5.1 setup

So what are all the speakers you are using?
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post #4719 of 6059
2/25/12 at 5:10pm
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Originally Posted by punman View Post

So what are all the speakers you are using?

Q900 (2)
Q600c
Q300 (2)

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post #4720 of 6059
2/25/12 at 5:29pm
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Originally Posted by arshishb View Post

OK i can understand that for HT. What about music? I actually like the sound a LOT better without the sub. Yes, I have a good sub, its a Rythmik E15.

That means your E15 is very poorly placed.

What you need is multiple subs for flatter frequency response.
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post #4721 of 6059
2/25/12 at 6:30pm
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Originally Posted by Eternal Velocity View Post

That means your E15 is very poorly placed.

What you need is multiple subs for flatter frequency response.

I might tend to agree. I have Dunlavy SC-IVA's for stereo music and still prefer having dual SVS PC-2039+ subs judicially intergrated.

I use KEF Q900's and a Q200c across the front of my Home Theater system, just to stay somewhat on topic.
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post #4722 of 6059
2/25/12 at 8:28pm
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Originally Posted by cream puff View Post

Q900 (2)
Q600c
Q300 (2)


Cream Puff, I think I'm going for your same setup eventually. After falling in love with my q300's, I'm picking up my 600c tonight or tomorrow. Then I think eventually get the q900 and move my q300 to the rear. How does it sound? Is a sub really needed since the 900s can get fairly low?
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post #4723 of 6059
2/25/12 at 8:44pm
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Originally Posted by toolskizm View Post

Cream Puff, I think I'm going for your same setup eventually. After falling in love with my q300's, I'm picking up my 600c tonight or tomorrow. Then I think eventually get the q900 and move my q300 to the rear. How does it sound? Is a sub really needed since the 900s can get fairly low?

for music i run pure direct mode (2.0 no sub), and prefer it that way.. although for movies a sub is still needed in my opinion.
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post #4724 of 6059
2/26/12 at 1:26pm
Got my IQ90s dialed in. Really good speaker for the money.

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post #4725 of 6059
2/26/12 at 4:45pm
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Originally Posted by sivadselim View Post

Ah. Makes sense, I guess. How did you get that piece out? Just slip something underneath and pry it out?

Yep
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post #4726 of 6059
2/26/12 at 7:41pm
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Originally Posted by toolskizm View Post

Cream Puff, I think I'm going for your same setup eventually. After falling in love with my q300's, I'm picking up my 600c tonight or tomorrow. Then I think eventually get the q900 and move my q300 to the rear. How does it sound? Is a sub really needed since the 900s can get fairly low?

Tool. I am glad to see that you are enjoying your 300s. I too am really enjoying listening to all my music over now. I no longer get a headache after listening to music like i used to with my old polk monitor system. .

Toool, creampuff What kind of source are you using for your listening? Ps3? dedicated CD/blu ray player? About to pull the trigger on a universal player, denon 1611.
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post #4727 of 6059
2/26/12 at 8:43pm
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Tool. I am glad to see that you are enjoying your 300s. I too am really enjoying listening to all my music over now. I no longer get a headache after listening to music like i used to with my old polk monitor system. .

Toool, creampuff What kind of source are you using for your listening? Ps3? dedicated CD/blu ray player? About to pull the trigger on a universal player, denon 1611.

I use a combination of things, samsung bluray player, Western Digital Live TV media center full of music/movies, and a PC connected via HDMI.

I would also like to get a turntable at some point, but not sure if that will end up happening or not.
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post #4728 of 6059
2/26/12 at 9:23pm
I got a question for Kef america or anyone who might know the answer to this,
but on the boxes for the Q series there are stickers for manufacture date and compliance, now I get the manufactured date part, but there is another one there which says complaint phase 1 or phase 2.

for the speakers I own it says:

Kef Q900: Built 10.2010 compliant with phase 1
Kef Q600C: Built 12.2011 compliant with phase 2.

now what does those phases mean?
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post #4729 of 6059
2/27/12 at 4:59am
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Originally Posted by dancel View Post

I got a question for Kef america or anyone who might know the answer to this,
but on the boxes for the Q series there are stickers for manufacture date and compliance, now I get the manufactured date part, but there is another one there which says complaint phase 1 or phase 2.

for the speakers I own it says:

Kef Q900: Built 10.2010 compliant with phase 1
Kef Q600C: Built 12.2011 compliant with phase 2.

now what does those phases mean?

It just has to do with the elimination of using certain chemicals such as formaldehyde in the manufacturing processes of the wood to comply with new standards of production...(CARB) nothing to do with the speaker itself. More of an environmental thing. Kinda like Rohs compliant products.
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post #4730 of 6059
2/27/12 at 5:32am
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It just has to do with the elimination of using certain chemicals such as formaldehyde in the manufacturing processes of the wood to comply with new standards of production...(CARB) nothing to do with the speaker itself. More of an environmental thing. Kinda like Rohs compliant products.

Thanks
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post #4731 of 6059
2/27/12 at 1:05pm
I listened to a Kef T205 system hooked up to a 2112, and I really liked what I heard so I got the set for my condo. I would have got the 2112 but I want a receiver with pre outs for future use, I guess if I want the Denon with this feature I would have to get the 3312.

The other receiver I am considering is the Onkyo 709, mainly because I found a good deal on it (about $250 cheaper than the 3312), and feature wise, it is comparable to the 3312. I know some of you said that the Kef's and Denon's work really well together, but I don't know if it is worth the extra money???

So my question is do you think I should get the 709 or spend a bit more and get the Denon? I tried to find a place that has both set ups but no luck.

I will be using the speakers and receiver for mostly music and watching TV, roughly in a 19' by 11' condo living room.
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post #4732 of 6059
2/27/12 at 1:10pm
What about the denon 2310. It is two models older than the 2110. But it has preouts and i think it will sound very good. It is quite cheap on a4L
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Originally Posted by remush View Post

I listened to a Kef T205 system hooked up to a 2112, and I really liked what I heard so I got the set for my condo. I would have got the 2112 but I want a receiver with pre outs for future use, I guess if I want the Denon with this feature I would have to get the 3312.

The other receiver I am considering is the Onkyo 709, mainly because I found a good deal on it (about $250 cheaper than the 3312), and feature wise, it is comparable to the 3312. I know some of you said that the Kef's and Denon's work really well together, but I don't know if it is worth the extra money???

So my question is do you think I should get the 709 or spend a bit more and get the Denon? I tried to find a place that has both set ups but no luck.

I will be using the speakers and receiver for mostly music and watching TV, roughly in a 19' by 11' condo living room.
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post #4733 of 6059
2/27/12 at 2:51pm
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Originally Posted by remush View Post

I listened to a Kef T205 system hooked up to a 2112, and I really liked what I heard so I got the set for my condo. I would have got the 2112 but I want a receiver with pre outs for future use, I guess if I want the Denon with this feature I would have to get the 3312.

The other receiver I am considering is the Onkyo 709, mainly because I found a good deal on it (about $250 cheaper than the 3312), and feature wise, it is comparable to the 3312. I know some of you said that the Kef's and Denon's work really well together, but I don't know if it is worth the extra money???

So my question is do you think I should get the 709 or spend a bit more and get the Denon? I tried to find a place that has both set ups but no luck.

I will be using the speakers and receiver for mostly music and watching TV, roughly in a 19' by 11' condo living room.

You could get the Pioneer VSX 1021 or VSX 1121, they both are good receivers & have pre-outs. The 1021 goes on sale often for $300 on Newegg & the 1121 for $449.
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post #4734 of 6059
2/27/12 at 3:12pm
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Originally Posted by benzjas View Post

What about the denon 2310. It is two models older than the 2110. But it has preouts and i think it will sound very good. It is quite cheap on a4L

Thanks for the suggestions, one thing i noticed was that these units have Audyssey MultEQ instead of XT like the newer 3312, which is something i would pay extra for.

But you're right, maybe i should look at discontinued models to save some money, I believe the 3311 would be almost identical to the 3312.
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post #4735 of 6059
2/27/12 at 3:19pm
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Originally Posted by arshishb View Post

You could get the Pioneer VSX 1021 or VSX 1121, they both are good receivers & have pre-outs. The 1021 goes on sale often for $300 on Newegg & the 1121 for $449.

I actually owned a Pioneer with a set of JBL speakers and they were great, I would definitely consider these.

One of the main reasons why I am leaning towards the Denon is because it was highly recommended as a pairing with KEF by a few members in this thread and on this forum.
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post #4736 of 6059
2/27/12 at 3:30pm
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Originally Posted by remush View Post

I actually owned a Pioneer with a set of JBL speakers and they were great, I would definitely consider these.

One of the main reasons why I am leaning towards the Denon is because it was highly recommended as a pairing with KEF by a few members in this thread and on this forum.

I have paired Q900, Q300 & Q600C to the 1121 & it sounds good to me. I haven't heard anything else with the Kefs so not sure how good/bad they are compared to the Denon. I did have Marantz few years ago & I like Pioneer sound better than the Marantz which seemed more "muffled" to me.

I recently bought a used Emotiva UPA7 to see what the deal is with getting a seperate v. a receiver. But even without the Emo, I am quite pleased with the way they sound.
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post #4737 of 6059
2/27/12 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by arshishb View Post

I have paired Q900, Q300 & Q600C to the 1121 & it sounds good to me. I haven't heard anything else with the Kefs so not sure how good/bad they are compared to the Denon. I did have Marantz few years ago & I like Pioneer sound better than the Marantz which seemed more "muffled" to me.

I recently bought a used Emotiva UPA7 to see what the deal is with getting a seperate v. a receiver. But even without the Emo, I am quite pleased with the way they sound.

I would like to audition these speakers with a Pioneer, but all the places I've been to that had the T205 in store, had it hooked up to a Denon.
I will look around some more, and I guess i can always audition the receiver at home from a place with a good return policy.
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post #4738 of 6059
2/27/12 at 4:13pm
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Originally Posted by remush View Post

I would like to audition these speakers with a Pioneer, but all the places I've been to that had the T205 in store, had it hooked up to a Denon.
I will look around some more, and I guess i can always audition the receiver at home from a place with a good return policy.

Where are you located?
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post #4739 of 6059
2/27/12 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by arshishb View Post

Where are you located?

Toronto, I found a place through Pioneer's dealer list that has both the 1021 and the KEF T205 listed on the website. I will go see them and hopefully they will pair these up for me.

I also remember finding a good deal on a SC-25, but that might be overkill for a condo living room and small speakers.
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post #4740 of 6059
3/3/12 at 1:08pm
Amazing speakers...blow away the oldies XQ20, rich and tight bass, sounds like towers!
Congrats Kef!
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