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post #5281 of 6029
8/5/12 at 9:03pm
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Originally Posted by GlassWolf View Post

maybe it's just me, but they look very simple and blocky.. like an overpriced DIY project with some veneer.

Yes they look simple, but watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHCK7Y5Vk-c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frl2NLeIp6c&feature=related

Also read the reviews:

- http://6moons.com/audioreviews/zu16/essence.html

- http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/zu12/presence.html

- http://hometheaterreview.com/zu-audio-omen-def-loudspeakers-reviewed/
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post #5282 of 6029
8/6/12 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by SJHT View Post

What is the target application for these? Music? SJ

Hi,
The LS50 is very versatile in its use. It has mostly been used in a 2 channel setting for critical listening, however, some people have started to use them in a home theater application by mixing in R Series speakers.

Sincerely,

KEF America
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post #5283 of 6029
8/6/12 at 1:41pm
Why do you have a restocking fee, I would love to try them at home but can't bear the fact that if I don't like them I have to pay $450 as a restocking fee?
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post #5284 of 6029
8/6/12 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by KEFAmerica View Post

Hi, The LS50 is very versatile in its use. It has mostly been used in a 2 channel setting for critical listening, however, some people have started to use them in a home theater application by mixing in R Series speakers. Sincerely, KEF America

Hello KEF America,

Why do you have a 15% restocking fee, I would love to try them at home, but don't want to pay $450 as a restocking fee plus shipping back and forth!!!

So probably over $500 total that is not a money back guarantee frown.gif
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post #5285 of 6029
8/6/12 at 2:07pm
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Hello KEF America,
Why do you have a 15% restocking fee, I would love to try them at home, but don't want to pay $450 as a restocking fee plus shipping back and forth!!!
So probably over $500 total that is not a money back guarantee frown.gif

So, if it's that expensive, why don't you just sell them on eBay/Audiogon/Craigslist for 100-200 less?
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post #5286 of 6029
8/6/12 at 3:49pm
Any KEF owners have experience upgrading the KHT3005se 5.1 system to 7.1?

I'd like to upgrade my 2-channel music sound and wonder if there are certain speakers that match well with the 3005 eggs, centre and sub.

I'm not inclined to just add two 3001 eggs, since 7.1 sound is less important to me than improving the sound of my 2-channel or 2.1 channel music.

Overall, I love these speakers for home theatre sound, but feel they fall short for music listening. I don't use the stands btw, if they would really improve things, I'd also love tips on where in North America they can be found.

Cheers
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post #5287 of 6029
8/6/12 at 5:27pm
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Originally Posted by bunu View Post

Any KEF owners have experience upgrading the KHT3005se 5.1 system to 7.1?
I'd like to upgrade my 2-channel music sound and wonder if there are certain speakers that match well with the 3005 eggs, centre and sub.
I'm not inclined to just add two 3001 eggs, since 7.1 sound is less important to me than improving the sound of my 2-channel or 2.1 channel music.
Overall, I love these speakers for home theatre sound, but feel they fall short for music listening. I don't use the stands btw, if they would really improve things, I'd also love tips on where in North America they can be found.
Cheers

I can't comment on the KHT3005se but from what I've heard the new R series (eg R700?). would be a great choice. But even if you went Q series I would think you would need to purchase three, L/C/R.
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post #5288 of 6029
8/7/12 at 5:49am
I'm looking at a pair of KEF Hts5001.2 from accessories for less. I'll use them as wides in a 11.2 setup.

I see these can be wall mounted with what looks like a pole that goes through a hole in the back.

My question is...
Can the speakers be rotated around the pole?

It looks like they can be, but I need them to be at an angle and just want to make sure I can do this. I want them to go straight up but at roughly 45 degrees relative to the wall surface.
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post #5289 of 6029
8/7/12 at 7:18am
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Hello KEF America,
Why do you have a 15% restocking fee, I would love to try them at home, but don't want to pay $450 as a restocking fee plus shipping back and forth!!!
So probably over $500 total that is not a money back guarantee frown.gif

Hi,
We are confident that you will enjoy the LS50 in your home. For questions on the return policy of KEFDirect you can email Orders@kefamerica.com or call 888-533-3728. LS50s will be available at local dealers in September.

Sincerely,

KEF America
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post #5290 of 6029
8/7/12 at 9:17am
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Originally Posted by KidHorn View Post

I'm looking at a pair of KEF Hts5001.2 from accessories for less. I'll use them as wides in a 11.2 setup.
I see these can be wall mounted with what looks like a pole that goes through a hole in the back.
My question is...
Can the speakers be rotated around the pole?
It looks like they can be, but I need them to be at an angle and just want to make sure I can do this. I want them to go straight up but at roughly 45 degrees relative to the wall surface.

Hi,
You should be able to put the wall mount for the HTS5001.2 at a 45 degree angel. Please make sure the bracket is secure on the wall since the speakers are heavy.

Sincerely,

KEF America
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post #5291 of 6029
8/7/12 at 11:02am
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Originally Posted by jima4a View Post

I can't comment on the KHT3005se but from what I've heard the new R series (eg R700?). would be a great choice. But even if you went Q series I would think you would need to purchase three, L/C/R.

I suspected as much. Thx!
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post #5292 of 6029
8/7/12 at 3:04pm
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Originally Posted by bunu View Post

I suspected as much. Thx!

I should restate. For years I had Kef Reference 103/4s with a M&K satellite as a center. For music I went only 2 channel but had no issues for movies. It is desirable to get a matching center but not a requirement. You can always upgrade the center later. Perhaps others more familiar with your current models can comment.
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post #5293 of 6029
8/11/12 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by bunu View Post

Any KEF owners have experience upgrading the KHT3005se 5.1 system to 7.1?
I'd like to upgrade my 2-channel music sound and wonder if there are certain speakers that match well with the 3005 eggs, centre and sub.
I'm not inclined to just add two 3001 eggs, since 7.1 sound is less important to me than improving the sound of my 2-channel or 2.1 channel music.
Overall, I love these speakers for home theatre sound, but feel they fall short for music listening. I don't use the stands btw, if they would really improve things, I'd also love tips on where in North America they can be found.
Cheers
Well I got a nice pair brand new still in box sitting in my garage since 08. If you have plans on coming down to So Ca or have relatives in the area of SD let me know I'll be glad to give em to you for $40.
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post #5294 of 6029
8/13/12 at 8:21am
I preordered the LS50's and received them about a week ago. They are the best small monitor speakers I have ever had in my home and I have had quite a few.

The first thing I noticed was really how small they are but still somewhat hefty in weight. The usual wrap on the top revealed a very "dead" cabinet. The next thing that struck me is that there is some bass coming from these little things. It didn't sound emphasized but was there and was tight and not boomy. The speakers seem very detailed without harshness. I listened to a variety of blues and female vocal music and the soundstage was extended both in width and depth. The speakers really did disappear in my room. I played them relatively loud and they were very dynamic and filled my 21' x 15' room. I paid full price but felt they were worth every penny. I think they are a great speaker and I think there will be some very favorable reviews (read that Atkinson will review in Stereophile). I think the only con I can come up with is maybe a slight lack of mid to upper bass.
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post #5295 of 6029
8/13/12 at 8:57am
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Originally Posted by Randy Bessinger View Post

I preordered the LS50's and received them about a week ago. They are the best small monitor speakers I have ever had in my home and I have had quite a few.
The first thing I noticed was really how small they are but still somewhat hefty in weight. The usual wrap on the top revealed a very "dead" cabinet. The next thing that struck me is that there is some bass coming from these little things. It didn't sound emphasized but was there and was tight and not boomy. The speakers seem very detailed without harshness. I listened to a variety of blues and female vocal music and the soundstage was extended both in width and depth. The speakers really did disappear in my room. I played them relatively loud and they were very dynamic and filled my 21' x 15' room. I paid full price but felt they were worth every penny. I think they are a great speaker and I think there will be some very favorable reviews (read that Atkinson will review in Stereophile). I think the only con I can come up with is maybe a slight lack of mid to upper bass.

Thanks for the quick review Randy. Have you heard the R100 or R300, what are your thoughts on them compared to the LS50s?
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post #5296 of 6029
8/13/12 at 9:48am
I have not heard those.
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post #5297 of 6029
8/13/12 at 10:25am
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Originally Posted by Randy Bessinger View Post

I preordered the LS50's and received them about a week ago. They are the best small monitor speakers I have ever had in my home and I have had quite a few.
The first thing I noticed was really how small they are but still somewhat hefty in weight. The usual wrap on the top revealed a very "dead" cabinet. The next thing that struck me is that there is some bass coming from these little things. It didn't sound emphasized but was there and was tight and not boomy. The speakers seem very detailed without harshness. I listened to a variety of blues and female vocal music and the soundstage was extended both in width and depth. The speakers really did disappear in my room. I played them relatively loud and they were very dynamic and filled my 21' x 15' room. I paid full price but felt they were worth every penny. I think they are a great speaker and I think there will be some very favorable reviews (read that Atkinson will review in Stereophile). I think the only con I can come up with is maybe a slight lack of mid to upper bass.

Thanks. What other small monitors have you owned?
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post #5298 of 6029
8/13/12 at 11:18am
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Originally Posted by SweElite View Post

Nice to hear m8 !



I just wished that Marants would throw us some new "upper range" recievers.
yea i geuss they think why mess with a good thing:)smile.gif
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post #5299 of 6029
8/13/12 at 11:24am
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Originally Posted by bunu View Post

Any KEF owners have experience upgrading the KHT3005se 5.1 system to 7.1?
I'd like to upgrade my 2-channel music sound and wonder if there are certain speakers that match well with the 3005 eggs, centre and sub.
I'm not inclined to just add two 3001 eggs, since 7.1 sound is less important to me than improving the sound of my 2-channel or 2.1 channel music.
Overall, I love these speakers for home theatre sound, but feel they fall short for music listening. I don't use the stands btw, if they would really improve things, I'd also love tips on where in North America they can be found.
Cheers
couldnt agree more i listin in 2.1 and for movies and sacd i power up my mision center and surrounds and they are quite tonally balanced although the kefs offer more detail:eek:biggrin.gif
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post #5300 of 6029
8/13/12 at 11:40am
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Originally Posted by yveletnik View Post

Just got R300s love them just have a little problem. They sound nicely balanced, full bodied and relaxed. But voices seem little recessed, moved back into sound stage, highs missing spark and air. Sometimes I get a feeling like speakers are covered with a towel, I'm almost reaching for a remote to push a magic button to open up the highs. I use those with Marantz SR6005 and don't really want to run Audyssey just yet...


Anybody had similar experience with R series? Or do I just need to adjust?
well ill tell you ive got the q300s and love them i think these speakers take a while to break in and for the moment ive got my tone set at +4 on the bass and +2 on treble on my sr6005:)
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post #5301 of 6029
8/13/12 at 12:02pm
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Originally Posted by pinoy ako View Post

Hello everybody! I am just new here so please bear with me.
I just recently bought KEF R-Series R700, R600C & R300 and JL Fathom F113 as sub to complete my 5.1 channel setup. I have Onkyo 3009 as receiver and PopcornHour C200. I have an approx room of 3000 cubic feet with carpet. I am using my sytem for movies and music 70/30
I just need some advice because i am planning to add ext power amplifier,
and these are my choices -->> NAD M25 (160W per channel - 7 Channels) and Parasound Halo A51 (250W-5 Channels)
I'm still in limbo which way to go, so please any guys here who has owned/experience with those big amp daddys running KEF R Series?
Please help me to decide by comparing the two i.e. sound quality, performance etc if this is not to much to ask.
Have no chance to demo these amps because these are pre orders in my current location.
Thanks a lot,
pinoy ako
if you have the choice i.e cash i would go with parasound
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post #5302 of 6029
8/13/12 at 12:02pm
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Originally Posted by drewTT View Post

Thanks. What other small monitors have you owned?
Let me think, Ascend 170's, PSB Miini's, NHT's (the first ones), NHT the ones that the guy from NM loved (whatever happened to him?) that look space age but also have subs to go with them, Snell, golly, a load more that I can't think of right now. Also, had the small Triad Gold on loan for awhile. JBL LSR6325's (I think that is the model/...the one Nousaine said measured better than any speaker he as has ever measured. I will post more as I go down memory lane. Oh yea, Aperion Grand bookshelf too, Wharfdale Diamond 4's. I guess some could be considered small/medium bookshelfs.
Edited by Randy Bessinger - 8/13/12 at 12:10pm
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post #5303 of 6029
8/14/12 at 6:17pm
Does anyone who owns or had owned IQ, XQ, or current Reference have experience matching them up up with Integra Electronics, Receivers or Prepros? I have the 80.3 and I have not yet decided if that was a good choice. I know a review of the XQ40s a few years back said they were not a good match with an Integra but I had an Onkyo that worked quite well, assumed sonically similar. Just interested in anyone's experiences with that match up. I believe the current Q and R series are a bit more laid back so may not be as relevant. You can PM me if you prefer.
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post #5304 of 6029
8/14/12 at 6:27pm
I have listened some more. There are only two speakers in the past that I was absolutely blown away by. This will tell you how old I am, but the first was an AR speaker when I was in college must have been 1966 or there abouts. The second was the Martin Logan Sequel.. Limitations but the midrange was sublime. The LS50 is the newest one. Only my opnion.
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post #5305 of 6029
8/14/12 at 7:39pm
I'm close to finishing a 21' x 13' dedicated movie room which is enclosed and have two SVS subs. I have it wired for a 7.2 and wanted to found out which KEFs I should go with?

The screen fwiw will be approx 120".

Thanks.
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post #5306 of 6029
8/15/12 at 4:46am
Many of you guys have extensive experience with KEF's R line? Specifically the R500 and R700? I've done quite a bit of reading and much of it says the 500 may be a bit better at imaging/soundstage and provide a slightyl cleaner overall sound but lacks the bottom end of the R700?
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post #5307 of 6029
8/15/12 at 5:40pm
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post

Many of you guys have extensive experience with KEF's R line? Specifically the R500 and R700? I've done quite a bit of reading and much of it says the 500 may be a bit better at imaging/soundstage and provide a slightyl cleaner overall sound but lacks the bottom end of the R700?

If reading is what you're going to go by, logic to me says buy the 500 and a sub.

But if you're able to audition, I'd say check out the Q900's. Best of both worlds.
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post #5308 of 6029
8/16/12 at 5:59am
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Originally Posted by jima4a View Post

Does anyone who owns or had owned IQ, XQ, or current Reference have experience matching them up up with Integra Electronics, Receivers or Prepros? I have the 80.3 and I have not yet decided if that was a good choice. I know a review of the XQ40s a few years back said they were not a good match with an Integra but I had an Onkyo that worked quite well, assumed sonically similar. Just interested in anyone's experiences with that match up. I believe the current Q and R series are a bit more laid back so may not be as relevant. You can PM me if you prefer.
I've used the Onkyo NR5009, which is pretty much the same thing as the 80.3, in regards to the amplifier section, with my Q1 monitors, and with my 104/2 mains and 200C center, and they sound fantastic. The person who told you they aren't a good match is mistaken, in my view.
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post #5309 of 6029
8/16/12 at 4:48pm
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Originally Posted by GlassWolf View Post

I've used the Onkyo NR5009, which is pretty much the same thing as the 80.3, in regards to the amplifier section, with my Q1 monitors, and with my 104/2 mains and 200C center, and they sound fantastic. The person who told you they aren't a good match is mistaken, in my view.

I have the DHC80.3, prepro not receiver. I am questioning the match. Unless I have it in Direct, some music is harsh even at lower volumes. I just level matched to be sure.
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post #5310 of 6029
8/16/12 at 7:44pm
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Originally Posted by Jive Turkey View Post

If reading is what you're going to go by, logic to me says buy the 500 and a sub.
But if you're able to audition, I'd say check out the Q900's. Best of both worlds.
Q900's definitely on the list but I'm reading the R series images a lot better and sounds far more open and clear without a hint of harshness that it has me thinking strongly about the R series.
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