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post #5341 of 6599
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Originally Posted by fmaz View Post

Hi all -
Been struggling to find that perfect 5.1 set up to work with a family room renovation that we are doing. Like everyone else, trying to combine performance with cost and something that will not stick out like a sore thumb. My wife would say that cost is the main factor, I'd vote performance.. but we both agree they need to work with the room design. Room is a 20x25 room with no back wall (it's an open floor plan, into the kitchen)... and the entire front wall (where the TV, centers and fronts will go) will be shelving. So floor standing speakers are out. And in reality... the main viewing area doesn't use the last 10 feet... so it's more like a 20x15 space, I suppose.
I've been looking at the KEF-KHT3005BL set. Or at least at all the reviews. I haven't read the whole 178 page thread yet, but can someone speak from personal experience on these? Are they powerful enough to really serve that space? We watch a lot of movies, but we will also listen to music... and I don't want to skimp... I want to do this right. I'll be getting a new receiver to go along with it... but for now I'm trying to settle on speakers so I can integrate that into the final plans.
Any input on this set, or perhaps some comparables to look at, would be great.
Thanks,
Frank
Hi Frank,

I have a similar room layout to yourself. Originally used the Kef 2005.3's for a while, which are a great little movie package but I got a great deal from Best Buy on the 3005SE's after they went bust in the UK last Christmas. 3005's will fill your room space without any issues whatsoever, and the dedicated Centre is a very strong performer. I watch 75% movies vs 25% music and the 3005's suffice in both areas, but they are designed primarily as a movie speaker so do have bass limitations with music.

Would score them 9/10 for movies and 7/10 for music compared to the 2005.3 - 8/10 movies and 5/10 for music. The 3005's are more 3D sounding compared to the 2005.3, integrate better with each other in a 5.1 set up. (Better tweeter design). HTB2SE is a great looking sub and handles music and movies beautifully.

3005's are solid built and are wife friendly looking. Nice design, small and they blend into furniture background well.. Can use them with front covers on or off, also available in black and white versions. Bare wire or banana plug fixing.

Regarding your amp, hi fi specialists over here suggest that the Kef's are best suited to Yamaha amps. I'm not overly keen on the Yamaha internal sound processing features so I have partnered mine with the Onkyo 709 amp, and they sound great together. Kef UK suggest that the 3005's will perform better with more powerful amps in the $1000+ bracket. Onkyo 7,8+ series - Denon 3313, Yamaha A1020 + etc.

Hope this info is of help.

Cheers,

Rob
post #5342 of 6599
KEF iQ70 has been recommended to me by several folks on the forum but unfortunately I couldn't find a shop with kef speakers in my area (Pittsburgh, PA). I can order them from newegg and return them but I would rather setup the thing once. I would really appreciate if someone with these speakers is willing to give me brief demo. I would really appreciate it.

Thanks!
post #5343 of 6599
Hi all,

I just bought a pair of Kef reference 207 instead of my xq40. I will use it only for multi channel movies, So I will have one stereo amp for the 207´s and one 5 channel amp for the central speaker and the 4 surrounds. I currently have the emotiva xpa-2.

Which amp do you guys reccomend for the 207´s?

Thank you very much

Ash
post #5344 of 6599
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Originally Posted by ashalc View Post

Hi all,
I just bought a pair of Kef reference 207 instead of my xq40. I will use it only for multi channel movies, So I will have one stereo amp for the 207´s and one 5 channel amp for the central speaker and the 4 surrounds. I currently have the emotiva xpa-2.
Which amp do you guys reccomend for the 207´s?
Thank you very much
Ash

For stereo I would recommend Parasound Halo JC1s but if you are only doing HT then I am sure they would be great but what is your budget? Did you like the XPA-2, if so a pair of XPA-1s might work.
post #5345 of 6599
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Originally Posted by Greeng4309 View Post

Hi Frank,
I have a similar room layout to yourself. Originally used the Kef 2005.3's for a while, which are a great little movie package but I got a great deal from Best Buy on the 3005SE's after they went bust in the UK last Christmas. 3005's will fill your room space without any issues whatsoever, and the dedicated Centre is a very strong performer. I watch 75% movies vs 25% music and the 3005's suffice in both areas, but they are designed primarily as a movie speaker so do have bass limitations with music.
Would score them 9/10 for movies and 7/10 for music compared to the 2005.3 - 8/10 movies and 5/10 for music. The 3005's are more 3D sounding compared to the 2005.3, integrate better with each other in a 5.1 set up. (Better tweeter design). HTB2SE is a great looking sub and handles music and movies beautifully.
3005's are solid built and are wife friendly looking. Nice design, small and they blend into furniture background well.. Can use them with front covers on or off, also available in black and white versions. Bare wire or banana plug fixing.
Regarding your amp, hi fi specialists over here suggest that the Kef's are best suited to Yamaha amps. I'm not overly keen on the Yamaha internal sound processing features so I have partnered mine with the Onkyo 709 amp, and they sound great together. Kef UK suggest that the 3005's will perform better with more powerful amps in the $1000+ bracket. Onkyo 7,8+ series - Denon 3313, Yamaha A1020 + etc.
Hope this info is of help.
Cheers,
Rob

Rob - thanks so much, that's some great info.

Frank
post #5346 of 6599
It is for HT only but i need a dual channel amplifier due to space. I was thinking on something up to 5k
post #5347 of 6599
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Originally Posted by jima4a View Post

For stereo I would recommend Parasound Halo JC1s but if you are only doing HT then I am sure they would be great but what is your budget? Did you like the XPA-2, if so a pair of XPA-1s might work.

I only have room for a 2 channel amp, but i think that for the 207 i need something stronger than the xpa-2
post #5348 of 6599
I am sure there will be more suggestions but you may want to try out a Crown XLS2000 or 2500. It is a pro class D but as long as the fan does not need to run feedback seems good. If it does not work out you can sell and be out very little. Another option would be an ATI AT3002, 300 wpc class AB. ATI is used in a lot of higher end custom home theater and reviews are very positive. I will post the link where you can purchase ATI as an edit to this.

http://www.classicaudioparts.com/index.php/about-magento-demo-store

Wyred4Sound also makes a 1000watt 4 ohm / 500 watt 8 ohm Class D - W4S ST-1000 Stereo for $2K.

For HT I think you can get by for about $2K or less if you go with the Crowns. You also could try the XPA-2 first since you own it already. What will you use for the center and for a 5 channel amp?
Edited by jima4a - 9/3/12 at 6:40pm
post #5349 of 6599
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Originally Posted by jima4a View Post

I am sure there will be more suggestions but you may want to try out a Crown XLS2000 or 2500. It is a pro class D but as long as the fan does not need to run feedback seems good. If it does not work out you can sell and be out very little. Another option would be an ATI AT3002, 300 wpc class AB. ATI is used in a lot of higher end custom home theater and reviews are very positive. I will post the link where you can purchase ATI as an edit to this.
http://www.classicaudioparts.com/index.php/about-magento-demo-store

I live in south america, so i can not make any mistake. What is the problem with tge crown's fan?
post #5350 of 6599
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Originally Posted by ashalc View Post

I live in south america, so i can not make any mistake. What is the problem with tge crown's fan?

If it runs it makes noise. However, for your application it will not likely ever need to ever run if you keep air flow open for it. Although the 207/2s are demanding, no where near as much as the Crowns are designed for.
post #5351 of 6599
With KEF IQ90's front, an IQ60C center, what do you think of using IQ70's as rear surrounds in a 5.1 HT setup?
post #5352 of 6599
Hi, guys. I own the 207/2 and 204-2c loudspeakers and would like to know if those silver little covers that protect the tweeters are detachable. I intended to try to take them out, but was afraid of causing some damage. Thanks for helping.
post #5353 of 6599
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Originally Posted by cyberbeach View Post

With KEF IQ90's front, an IQ60C center, what do you think of using IQ70's as rear surrounds in a 5.1 HT setup?

I would think that would work well. I know the XQ50c works well with the XQ40s and the have the same 5 1/4" , 6 1/2" Uni-Q delta so I believe you could go with IQ70, 30 or 10s. IQ70 would be best but may need slightly stouter amp, but only marginally.
post #5354 of 6599
Realizing that this is the Kef thread, I will just point at that I'm debating a few Definitive speakers vs Kef or even mix and match and looking for advise.

I have a legacy 2 channel system with Vandersteen series 2 speakers that I can surely use for great audio but wondering if they could be incorporated into my surround set up so as to put more cash into the center, sub and surrounds.

I've got a Denon 3313 en route.

For the Kefs, it was Q or R series 100 or 200 KHT 6000 or Q200C and saw a great deal on an Htb2 and wondering if wireless is good and moreover, will that be a nice addition to the vandersteens in terms of musical low end?

Thinking Def Supercube 4000 , CD 8040 HD and a few Studio Monitors (or 4 if people tell me the Vandersteen idea is really bad). I can go up a bit in budget but I will say my room is only 10x12 ish (NYC apartment) and I'm much more of a music guy than a surround sound (tend to watch foreign and Indie flicks moreso)

Any direction in terms of what I would gain by going up or what I might save...greatly appreciated.
post #5355 of 6599
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Originally Posted by ovrdrvn View Post

Realizing that this is the Kef thread, I will just point at that I'm debating a few Definitive speakers vs Kef or even mix and match and looking for advise.
I have a legacy 2 channel system with Vandersteen series 2 speakers that I can surely use for great audio but wondering if they could be incorporated into my surround set up so as to put more cash into the center, sub and surrounds.
I've got a Denon 3313 en route.
For the Kefs, it was Q or R series 100 or 200 KHT 6000 or Q200C and saw a great deal on an Htb2 and wondering if wireless is good and moreover, will that be a nice addition to the vandersteens in terms of musical low end?
Thinking Def Supercube 4000 , CD 8040 HD and a few Studio Monitors (or 4 if people tell me the Vandersteen idea is really bad). I can go up a bit in budget but I will say my room is only 10x12 ish (NYC apartment) and I'm much more of a music guy than a surround sound (tend to watch foreign and Indie flicks moreso)
Any direction in terms of what I would gain by going up or what I might save...greatly appreciated.

I would take KEF.

For subs, I would go with HSU, SVS, Rythmik, Epik, Funk, Velodyne.

And don't mix and match. Just stick to the same brand for the 5.1 system.
post #5356 of 6599
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Originally Posted by marklima View Post

Hi, guys. I own the 207/2 and 204-2c loudspeakers and would like to know if those silver little covers that protect the tweeters are detachable. I intended to try to take them out, but was afraid of causing some damage. Thanks for helping.

Why would you take them out?

When Stereophile and Soundstage measured those KEF Reference, they didn't take them out. They measured extremely well and sound great with them on. Why take a risk like that? eek.gif

Don't do it. That is evil. biggrin.gif
post #5357 of 6599
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Originally Posted by AcuDefTechGuy View Post

I would take KEF.
For subs, I would go with HSU, SVS, Rythmik, Epik, Funk, Velodyne.
And don't mix and match. Just stick to the same brand for the 5.1 system.


OK so then I can't make use of the Vandersteens...meaning I'd have to get a set of L/R fronts? (would have to be bookshelf then otherwise no woman will have me!)
post #5358 of 6599
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Originally Posted by AcuDefTechGuy View Post

Why would you take them out?
When Stereophile and Soundstage measured those KEF Reference, they didn't take them out. They measured extremely well and sound great with them on. Why take a risk like that? eek.gif
Don't do it. That is evil. biggrin.gif

I agree with you. That's why I haven't tried yet, but I'd like to listen without those 'veils' to experiment, who knows, an improvement on the treble... But I'll forget it... Thanks!!!
post #5359 of 6599
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Originally Posted by jima4a View Post

I would think that would work well. I know the XQ50c works well with the XQ40s and the have the same 5 1/4" , 6 1/2" Uni-Q delta so I believe you could go with IQ70, 30 or 10s. IQ70 would be best but may need slightly stouter amp, but only marginally.

I have a Denon 3313CI, with a stated125 watts/channel. The room is 22x15. What do you think?
post #5360 of 6599
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Originally Posted by cyberbeach View Post

I have a Denon 3313CI, with a stated125 watts/channel. The room is 22x15. What do you think?

That is an excellent receiver and should be all you need. Edit: I am never opposed to more power but that is a very capable receiver and should drive that system fine.
post #5361 of 6599
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Originally Posted by cyberbeach View Post

I have a Denon 3313CI, with a stated125 watts/channel. The room is 22x15. What do you think?

HTM measured the 3312: 143wpc x 2ch 8ohm, 225wpc x 2ch 4ohm.

http://www.hometheater.com/content/denon-avr-3312ci-av-receiver-ht-labs-measures

Should be good enough for you. Just make sure the speaker channel levels are around +0.0 dB.
post #5362 of 6599
New set up installed

Iq70s and iq60 in the front
Iq10s for surround
Old jbl sats as rear surrounds
Energy s10.3 sub
Yamaha Rx a720

Any preferable break in methods and duration ?

Thanks much
post #5363 of 6599
Just play music on your system. i've never done anything out of the ordinary to break in speakers. Everyday use will do that.

If you feel you need to break them in, put in a CD and set your receiver up for all channel stereo or whatever Yamaha calls it and let it run for several hours while you're gone. That way you'll get sound thru all 7 speakers and the drivers can loosen up or whatever happens to them during this process.
post #5364 of 6599
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Originally Posted by sagecounsel View Post

New set up installed
Iq70s and iq60 in the front
Iq10s for surround
Old jbl sats as rear surrounds
Energy s10.3 sub
Yamaha Rx a720
Any preferable break in methods and duration ?
Thanks much

Hey, where'd do you find the iQ60c?

The only ones I can find are on eBay...
post #5365 of 6599
Newegg
Sold out quick though...
Wish I knew another dealer for you
post #5366 of 6599
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Originally Posted by Greeng4309 View Post

Hi Frank,
I have a similar room layout to yourself. Originally used the Kef 2005.3's for a while, which are a great little movie package but I got a great deal from Best Buy on the 3005SE's after they went bust in the UK last Christmas. 3005's will fill your room space without any issues whatsoever, and the dedicated Centre is a very strong performer. I watch 75% movies vs 25% music and the 3005's suffice in both areas, but they are designed primarily as a movie speaker so do have bass limitations with music.
Would score them 9/10 for movies and 7/10 for music compared to the 2005.3 - 8/10 movies and 5/10 for music. The 3005's are more 3D sounding compared to the 2005.3, integrate better with each other in a 5.1 set up. (Better tweeter design). HTB2SE is a great looking sub and handles music and movies beautifully.
3005's are solid built and are wife friendly looking. Nice design, small and they blend into furniture background well.. Can use them with front covers on or off, also available in black and white versions. Bare wire or banana plug fixing.
Regarding your amp, hi fi specialists over here suggest that the Kef's are best suited to Yamaha amps. I'm not overly keen on the Yamaha internal sound processing features so I have partnered mine with the Onkyo 709 amp, and they sound great together. Kef UK suggest that the 3005's will perform better with more powerful amps in the $1000+ bracket. Onkyo 7,8+ series - Denon 3313, Yamaha A1020 + etc.
Hope this info is of help.
Cheers,
Rob
Couldn't say it better. Don't ever under estimate the size of Kef's eggs for it's size and quite honest I can't really blame joe six pack who has never heard them. But as someone who's been with Kef from day 1, the sound stage Kef puts out is extraordinary because of the Uni-Q tweeters disperse capability.

And having the 3005 in my room and watching movies at my friends iQ90's set up the 3005 is right up there. The quality and excellence with Kef is that there really is no such thing as entry level in their line up. It starts out high and only improves in small increments. It's the same with Velodyne. So in short, no problems with that room size as mine was 26 x 13 x 8 plus two openings in the kitchen and dining room.

Lastly, can I just add how good it is to see a Kef thread and see folks talking on a daily basis. About 5 yrs ago and beyond you would rarely see a Kef thread and when one popped up hardly anyone knows anything about them. Back then it was all Klipsch and Paradigm. Long live Kef.
post #5367 of 6599
There are iq60 avail. on Amazon fyi
post #5368 of 6599
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Originally Posted by sagecounsel View Post

There are iq60 avail. on Amazon fyi

And I just got one - thanks!
post #5369 of 6599
Just ordered on Amazon:

iQ90 x2 Amazon via Vann's not Prime but free-shipping courtesy of Vann's
iQ70 x2 Amazon via Premier Audio Video
iq60c x1 Amazon via Premier Audio Video

Don't know if speakers are an exception but normally you can return to Amazon for 30 days.

I had checked with KefDirect but they actually do charge a 15% restocking fee, plus they were sold out of the iQ60c anyway.

Have them all next weekend if I'm lucky!
post #5370 of 6599
Excellent
Loving my setup
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