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post #6511 of 6601
Continuing In KEF .. picked up a pair of M200 in ear headphones.
Got em yesterday and with a very small bit of practice got em fitting well. NICE piece of gear
KEF makes such great stuff...
post #6512 of 6601
Had some time with my setup and i love it! I have an onkyo 809, kef q700's, q300's, q600 and a svs pb12nsd. Now i would like a 7.2 setup another pb12 and pair of q300's
post #6513 of 6601
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Originally Posted by tristan82 View Post

Had some time with my setup and i love it! I have an onkyo 809, kef q700's, q300's, q600 and a svs pb12nsd. Now i would like a 7.2 setup another pb12 and pair of q300's

I would suggest looking at Power Sound Audio. Amazing products for the price!! Can't be beat.
post #6514 of 6601
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Originally Posted by tristan82 View Post

Had some time with my setup and i love it! I have an onkyo 809, kef q700's, q300's, q600 and a svs pb12nsd. Now i would like a 7.2 setup another pb12 and pair of q300's

Might want to snag the SVS PB12-NSD. They've been replaced by the PB-2000 and they're down to whatever PB12 stock is on hand.
post #6515 of 6601
Well im out here in toronto canada so i will have to take another look on sonicboomaudio and see whats going on plus i get my 5% discount to boot
post #6516 of 6601
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Originally Posted by jer181 View Post

I would suggest looking at Power Sound Audio. Amazing products for the price!! Can't be beat.
im gonna stick with my kef setup and svs combo for now but now i know about psa 15inch subs very tempting but i want matching subs
post #6517 of 6601
Hi everyone just a quick question how much watts can i bi-amp into my kef q700's was thinking about getting an emotiva xpa5 and bi-amping the fr/fl
post #6518 of 6601
Seems to be a big debate going about KEF Q800DS dipole speakers. They have no markings for left or right.

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?cspkr&1376417568&read

Would love to get some feedback from owners of these speakers.
post #6519 of 6601
Correct and phase wiring for the R series rears is supposed to be nerfed as well.
post #6520 of 6601
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Originally Posted by fatbottom View Post

Correct and phase wiring for the R series rears is supposed to be nerfed as well.

I am looking at Q series to match my Q5s and Q 9 center. Are these a good buy or should I avoid them because of this issue?
post #6521 of 6601
I wouldn't say to avoid them but you need to check wiring, run phase checks or battery test.

ps I'd upgrade the Q9. I've had Kef Q, Q55, Q75, Q95C, Q15, the weakest is the Q95C cannot match and keep up with Q55's range. Bought Model 200. Doesn't match but better sound. If your Q9 is anything like the Q95C (which I thought was crap)
post #6522 of 6601
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Originally Posted by Tfleming675 View Post

Seems to be a big debate going about KEF Q800DS dipole speakers. They have no markings for left or right.

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?cspkr&1376417568&read

Would love to get some feedback from owners of these speakers.

I don't know Q800DS's, but I do own R800ds's. My feedback is, typical Audiogon nonsense.

The KEFs are not standard bidirectional out-of-phase (often erroneously called "dipole") speakers. They highpass the MF driver on one side, so that there is no bass null. It's only when both sides of a BOOP surround run full-range that pair-matching matters.
post #6523 of 6601
Just purchased the Q300 and a cambridge audio 651A amp. Running my Cambridge x300 watt sub with them and enjoying them. But im already thinking of upgrading lol. 5.1 or 7.1 looking at the cambridge audio 751R and getting some more of these q300s or even the q700's for FR.




post #6524 of 6601
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Originally Posted by hatlesschimp View Post

Just purchased the Q300 and a cambridge audio 651A amp. Running my Cambridge x300 watt sub with them and enjoying them. But im already thinking of upgrading lol. 5.1 or 7.1 looking at the cambridge audio 751R and getting some more of these q300s or even the q700's for FR.
Congrats!
post #6525 of 6601
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Originally Posted by Mendan View Post

I just got 35% off a revel set of 5 speakers. I was quoted 25% off of the Msrp for the KEF r700/r600 etc set I was looking at also. I would keep looking. Have you tried AVscience? They are a forum sponsor and gave me a great price on my x4000. They deal with KEF. PM JD for a price.

35% off very nice it's hard to get for B&W! Almost impossible, I know that the margins can as high as 70 point for some of the brands biggrin.gif
post #6526 of 6601
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Congrats!

Thanks
post #6527 of 6601
Hi, been wondering few things since my upgrade from 2001.2 speakers to 3005 SE speakers.

1) crossover setting : on 2001.2 speakers 120hz was the best sounding crossover setting on my receiver. So everything below 120hz was being sent to the subwoofer ( = REL Quake Q3).
Now, should I leave it at 120hz for my new speakers or should I change it to 100hz? (receiver has no option of 110hz). BTW : 2001.2 speakers had 80hz @ -3db and the 3005 SE speakers have 70hz @ -3db

2) Yesterday I noticed something when watching an ''in conversation'' piece on the new Trek Blurays. It lasted more than an hour and was all talking between 4 people, so I turned up the volume quite loud, at the end of the feature the end credits was covered with the flute melody from Picard from the episode ''Inner Light''. But the sound of that was very loud and very sharp in the high tones. That is something I did not notice with my 2001.2 speakers - they never sounded so sharp, no matter how high the volume was. Is this normal? Is it cause my new speakers just give more detail than my previous ones?

I should mention these are new speakers and they have only played for 10 days so far.
post #6528 of 6601
Your room/space is factor so you should probably test both 100hz and 120hz and see which one sounds better to you. I would test some favorite movie (blu-ray) sections and some favorite music.
post #6529 of 6601
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Originally Posted by hatlesschimp View Post

Just purchased the Q300 and a cambridge audio 651A amp. Running my Cambridge x300 watt sub with them and enjoying them. But im already thinking of upgrading lol. 5.1 or 7.1 looking at the cambridge audio 751R and getting some more of these q300s or even the q700's for FR.

Nice system. I was thinking of similar approach using R300 with computer.
post #6530 of 6601
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Originally Posted by sdg4vfx View Post

Your room/space is factor so you should probably test both 100hz and 120hz and see which one sounds better to you. I would test some favorite movie (blu-ray) sections and some favorite music.

Hi

I settled on 100hz as crossover.

When listening to music without the bungs at the back of the speakers it sounded very boomy to me.
After listening to the same piece with the bungs it sounded better. So I'll stick WITH bungs.
For movies I did not hear much difference with or without bungs.
post #6531 of 6601
I snagged the minx x500 watt sub for 350 on ebay yesterday. Retails for 1200 here in Aus. Hopefully it goes well with the q300s. Cant wait for it to arrive!
post #6532 of 6601
Just wanted to chime in and say thanks for all the posts in this thread, and to give a little info on my recent KEF speaker purchases. I have spent the last three weeks with my KEF R700s. I also got a R600c at the same time and am about to go ahead and finish off the speaker setup with the R800ds and a sub.

My room isn't dedicated, it's just a spare bedroom in the middle of the house. I've got a Panny projector and a 106" screen. Because of that I went for the walnut instead of the gloss black.

Here are just a few things about using the KEF R series in a home theater room with a projector.

1) The speakers are absolutely beautiful without the grills attached. The walnut finish is as fine a finish as any piece of furniture I've bought for my home in the last five years. That being said, when it's movie time, I put the grills on. The shiny aluminum rings and shiny Uni-Q driver really can be distracting without the grills on while playing movies.

2) I'm also running these speakers on a recently purchased Marantz AV7701 pre/pro into a Parasound Halo A52.

3) My room is about 13.5' x 13'. Not ideal for acoustics, but the R700s aren't too bass heavy for me. In fact, I'm probably going to order to R400b because I just want a little bit of bass support. Not anything too boomy. I just don't think the speakers need it in my room.

I first got a test listen to the R500's at a dealer in Dallas and I was very impressed with how neutral they sounded. They were running on Parasound Halo JC1 mono amps. I really only had a chance to listen to CD's as a source at that dealer.

I have been happy with my old home theater speakers from a long time ago but finally decided to go for a great system. I was still using an old Denon AVR1400 with analog outputs from many upgraded DVD and Blu-Ray players over the years. I had experience with KEF in the past. I helped my parents pick out a home theater system using KEF speakers like the Reference 100 and 90s and then upgraded their fronts to KEF RDM 2's (I think). I loved the neutrality of the speakers compared to my DefTech's I'd always had.

The thing that strikes me about the R700s is they don't really have that distinctive flat/neutral sound I'm used to in the older KEF series of speakers. Maybe it's the new Uni-Q with the Blade technology. I did audition some PSB Imagine T2's just for comparison and those were very nice speakers as well (I thought). These speakers are pretty awesome after spending three weeks with them. It's the best set of speakers I've ever owned. They are a lot more lively in the higher frequencies than I remember KEF being. But acoustic guitars and strings still sound accurate without being overly bright.

What has been the biggest difference for me is in how revealing and controlled they are. It's hard for me to judge how loud they are playing. I can go from 72db to 77db on my Marantz and everything is so clear just at a higher volume. It's not like anything I've experienced before with my own speakers. There is no level of volume that makes you think the speakers are being pushed to their limits. (I dare not push them too far being this new). They just stay composed and play at a higher volume level.

The other thing for me that has been surprising with two channel music is they have such a great separation in the soundstage. It's more revealing of left and right channels than my DefTech satellites were. I had always read that towers wouldn't be able to create the type of soundstage satellite speakers are capable of reproducing. The KEFs also were so revealing. I could tell after a couple of days of listening to vinyl that the higher frequencies were too harsh. I was really worried the KEF neutrality I was looking for wasn't in these speakers. It turned out the speakers were just revealing to me that my phono preamp needed to have it's settings lowered when loading my MC cartridge. I made a few tweaks to my phono preamp and another world opened up.

I couldn't tell that on my former system even though the Parasound Halo amp was already in that setup chain.

For movies, they are great speakers as well. I just do so much critical two-channel listening on vinyl that I'm not quite as good at evaluating movie sound through the speakers. The R600c is a great match with the R700s. Just a seamless soundfield up front.

Again with movies, I am still re-teaching myself to judge volume levels too. You hear everything so well that you have to say to yourself, 'I'd like it to have a little more volume.'

I presume this is the biggest difference between the Q and the R series. I've read a lot about the Q series really opening up at higher volume levels. From my listening to movies and vinyl so far, the Rs are very good at producing a nice, clean, clear soundstage at medium listening levels.

I'm just really enjoying these speakers. I still have plenty to do to finish off the system with cables, interconnects and getting some people in to do some in-wall installation for the surrounds and projector chords, install new outlets, etc., but I couldn't be happier with holding out for the R series.

I'm a little bit of an analog freak and I do love movies. But I've really been blown away with the R700s for two-channel music. Just get some help carrying those speakers if you pick them up from your dealer. Those boxes are massive!

The wood finishes are beautiful. But if you are buying for just two-channel listening you should definitely go for the gloss black or white finishes. They are really pretty pieces of furniture with the grills off either way.
post #6533 of 6601
Careybsn - Congrats on the R700 / R600 setup and thanks for sharing your impressions.
post #6534 of 6601
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The shiny aluminum rings and shiny Uni-Q driver really can be distracting without the grills on while playing movies.

Agreed. They should offer a model with black rings. It looks cheap and is very distracting. Wharfedale did this too. As a result their Diamonds look like cosmetic jewelry out of claires boutique.
post #6535 of 6601
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Originally Posted by tritiumglo View Post

Agreed. They should offer a model with black rings. It looks cheap and is very distracting. Wharfedale did this too. As a result their Diamonds look like cosmetic jewelry out of claires boutique.

I would disagree that it looks cheap. I actually really like it. When I go back to two-channel listening, I take the grills off and really just marvel at the shiny-ness. I wouldn't like black rings, especially with the walnut veneers. Maybe it would work with the glossy finishes.
post #6536 of 6601
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Originally Posted by careybsn View Post

I would disagree that it looks cheap. I actually really like it. When I go back to two-channel listening, I take the grills off and really just marvel at the shiny-ness. I wouldn't like black rings, especially with the walnut veneers. Maybe it would work with the glossy finishes.

Well, with KEF not so much cheap. A bit distracting. Wharfedale, cheap. Very distracting. Like big hoops of joined ear rings. Just differences of opinion. It would be nice if there were an option though. Then everyone could be happy. Well, mostly happy.

post #6537 of 6601
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Originally Posted by tritiumglo View Post

Well, with KEF not so much cheap. A bit distracting. Wharfedale, cheap. Very distracting. Like big hoops of joined ear rings. Just differences of opinion. It would be nice if there were an option though. Then everyone could be happy. Well, mostly happy.


Oh man, that does look bad. The screws just ruin rings like those. I do remember seeing the Bowers and Wilkins CMx line and thinking the same thing. Plus you add the yellow cone into the mix with that one.
post #6538 of 6601
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Originally Posted by careybsn View Post

Oh man, that does look bad. The screws just ruin rings like those. I do remember seeing the Bowers and Wilkins CMx line and thinking the same thing. Plus you add the yellow cone into the mix with that one.

...and tweeter through wet blanket highs (to me, ymmv).
post #6539 of 6601
Looks like a lot of manufacturer are adding silver rings it first started with Tannoy, then B&W, then wharfs dale then KEF!, oh wait it looks like it is a British thing?
post #6540 of 6601
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Looks like a lot of manufacturer are adding silver rings it first started with Tannoy, then B&W, then wharfs dale then KEF!, oh wait it looks like it is a British thing?

Yep, monitor audio's gold gx line has them too. My rx8s and new silvers have a very thing ring that looks better to me.
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