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post #121 of 830
9/16/06 at 11:40am
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Wow that's pretty bad. I did see rainbows at first but after 100+ hours I don't see them unless I dart my eyes around. THe wierd thing is that I have never had a guest that sees rainbows, not even my family members. I just badly want a 1080p PJ. The pearl looks like it will fit my bill.


Yeah I work in IT for a large company. Every year when all the IT people from around the world get together to go over projects and things like that it's almost all projector based. They use a DLP and it's impossible for me to concentrate. I basically don't eat for 4 days because I'm nauseas.
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post #122 of 830
9/16/06 at 12:17pm
My Pearl arrived this morning as well. Just want to thank those people who helped me get one rather quickly. You all know who you are! Thanks for the superior service.

My current projector is the Sony VPL-VW100 with about 225 hours on the bulb. I love the projector. To me LCOS throws and amazingly filmlike and smooth picture. I cannot handle the sharper, harsher (with rainbows every now and then) look of DLP's. Just to get my bias out of the way early.

The unit is much smaller than the Ruby. It reminds me more of the HS51 which I owned a year ago. I prefer the look of the Ruby hands down. It looks thinner and sleeker while the Pearl is smaller and feels fatter. Overall, I have no problem with the Pearl and most will like the smaller size compared to the Ruby.

I have the Pearl setup on a 96" Firehawk. The remote is exactly the same as the Ruby so I powered the unit on (and it worked thankfully!) There is still auto lens shift and focus. I focused the projector and there is a cool green grid that wasnt present on the Ruby. The menu system is similar to the Ruby, but it now has a blue background. Otherwise most of the controls are the same (see the Cine4home) review for these details. The fan noise is also very low in high and obviously low lamp modes.

My initial impression compared to the Ruby was that this projector felt brighter (I only ran high lamp mode). I have not calibrated the picture yet other than reducing the sharpness to zero, but I viewed HD material from Directv and from my Toshiba HD DVD player connected via HDMI. I watched The Bourne Supremacy, Swordfish, and We Were Soldiers. The picture of the Pearl is very comparable to the Ruby. HD was stunning as expected and the extra brightness (or percieved brightness) really helped the picture as I do not have complete light control during the day.

I will be able to do more critical viewing tonight as I am busy watching college football all day today. Hope this impressions help.
Andy
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post #123 of 830
9/16/06 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by Projectorguy1 View Post

One of the best posts I have ever seen on AVS - A real gem!

Thanks for the laugh!


Heh - thanks.

-tony
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post #124 of 830
9/16/06 at 12:41pm
Andy,

Are you watching the college football on the Pearl? I'm very curious about that as for sports I've found that the DLP sharpness is great over smoother LCD. Watching the World Cup, baseball or fooball is just tremendous. I'm not sure of how much beter it can get.

So I'm curious as how sports, both 1080i and 720p will look on the "film-like" pearl.

Thanks for your early posting and congrats on your new Pearl.
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post #125 of 830
9/16/06 at 12:42pm
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Originally Posted by Andrew P View Post

My Pearl arrived this morning as well. Just want to thank those people who helped me get one rather quickly. You all know who you are! Thanks for the superior service.

My current projector is the Sony VPL-VW100 with about 225 hours on the bulb. I love the projector. To me LCOS throws and amazingly filmlike and smooth picture. I cannot handle the sharper, harsher (with rainbows every now and then) look of DLP's. Just to get my bias out of the way early.

The unit is much smaller than the Ruby. It reminds me more of the HS51 which I owned a year ago. I prefer the look of the Ruby hands down. It looks thinner and sleeker while the Pearl is smaller and feels fatter. Overall, I have no problem with the Pearl and most will like the smaller size compared to the Ruby.

I have the Pearl setup on a 96" Firehawk. The remote is exactly the same as the Ruby so I powered the unit on (and it worked thankfully!) There is still auto lens shift and focus. I focused the projector and there is a cool green grid that wasnt present on the Ruby. The menu system is similar to the Ruby, but it now has a blue background. Otherwise most of the controls are the same (see the Cine4home) review for these details. The fan noise is also very low in high and obviously low lamp modes.

My initial impression compared to the Ruby was that this projector felt brighter (I only ran high lamp mode). I have not calibrated the picture yet other than reducing the sharpness to zero, but I viewed HD material from Directv and from my Toshiba HD DVD player connected via HDMI. I watched The Bourne Supremacy, Swordfish, and We Were Soldiers. The picture of the Pearl is very comparable to the Ruby. HD was stunning as expected and the extra brightness (or percieved brightness) really helped the picture as I do not have complete light control during the day.

I will be able to do more critical viewing tonight as I am busy watching college football all day today. Hope this impressions help.
Andy

Wow, this direct comparison to a Ruby is of great value!

Why did you buy a Pearl when you already have a Ruby?
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post #126 of 830
9/16/06 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by djzelos View Post

You know I actually looked to see if that frame existed. LOL I'm and idot

Now *that's* funny.

Congrats again on the projector!

-tony
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post #127 of 830
9/16/06 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by Andrew P View Post

My Pearl arrived this morning as well. Just want to thank those people who helped me get one rather quickly. You all know who you are! Thanks for the superior service.

My current projector is the Sony VPL-VW100 with about 225 hours on the bulb. I love the projector. To me LCOS throws and amazingly filmlike and smooth picture. I cannot handle the sharper, harsher (with rainbows every now and then) look of DLP's. Just to get my bias out of the way early.

The unit is much smaller than the Ruby. It reminds me more of the HS51 which I owned a year ago. I prefer the look of the Ruby hands down. It looks thinner and sleeker while the Pearl is smaller and feels fatter. Overall, I have no problem with the Pearl and most will like the smaller size compared to the Ruby.

I have the Pearl setup on a 96" Firehawk. The remote is exactly the same as the Ruby so I powered the unit on (and it worked thankfully!) There is still auto lens shift and focus. I focused the projector and there is a cool green grid that wasnt present on the Ruby. The menu system is similar to the Ruby, but it now has a blue background. Otherwise most of the controls are the same (see the Cine4home) review for these details. The fan noise is also very low in high and obviously low lamp modes.

My initial impression compared to the Ruby was that this projector felt brighter (I only ran high lamp mode). I have not calibrated the picture yet other than reducing the sharpness to zero, but I viewed HD material from Directv and from my Toshiba HD DVD player connected via HDMI. I watched The Bourne Supremacy, Swordfish, and We Were Soldiers. The picture of the Pearl is very comparable to the Ruby. HD was stunning as expected and the extra brightness (or percieved brightness) really helped the picture as I do not have complete light control during the day.

I will be able to do more critical viewing tonight as I am busy watching college football all day today. Hope this impressions help.
Andy

Andy,

First off congrats. I was wondering who the person in NC was that got Saturday delivery was. Now I know. We now have our own club, I call it "The first two consumer Sony Pearl's in the county club" also know ask TFTCSPINCC for short.
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post #128 of 830
9/16/06 at 12:54pm
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Andy,

Are you watching the college football on the Pearl? I'm very curious about that as for sports I've found that the DLP sharpness is great over smoother LCD. Watching the World Cup, baseball or fooball is just tremendous. I'm not sure of how much beter it can get.

So I'm curious as how sports, both 1080i and 720p will look on the "film-like" pearl.

Thanks for your early posting and congrats on your new Pearl.

For sports I prefer still DLP (and I use my 42" plasma as this throws such a sharp picture plus its half the size and that helps too). The DLP is definitely a sharper image and it looks better for football. Baseball and hockey look similar enough. I usually notice it during football games

For movies which is my true passion I prefer a more acurate representation for which LCOS has no equal in my opinion.

I am using Directv and I have to tell you the pixelation on HD is almost unwatchable. So disappointing, but this is the source and not the projector.
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post #129 of 830
9/16/06 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

Wow, this direct comparison to a Ruby is of great value!

Why did you buy a Pearl when you already have a Ruby?

For me it is hard to justify $10k for a projector. Id rather put my money into something else. Similar to the Marantz, etc. Im sure they throw great pictures and while I can purchase the projector I just dont find it a wise investment. I have other areas where I want to spend my money. I figure if I can get 80-85% of the performance of the Ruby then I will be happy.
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post #130 of 830
9/16/06 at 12:57pm
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Originally Posted by djzelos View Post

Andy,

First off congrats. I was wondering who the person in NC was that got Saturday delivery was. Now I know. We now have our own club, I call it "The first two consumer Sony Pearl's in the county club" also know ask TFTCSPINCC for short.

I am in CT currently, but moving to NC in the next 3-4 months once my home sells. I have never been a member of such an exclusive club haha.
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post #131 of 830
9/16/06 at 12:58pm
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For me it is hard to justify $10k for a projector. Id rather put my money into something else. Similar to the Marantz, etc. Im sure they throw great pictures and while I can purchase the projector I just dont find it a wise investment. I have other areas where I want to spend my money. I figure if I can get 80-85% of the performance of the Ruby then I will be happy.

If it's hard to justify $10k for one projector, isn't it even harder to justify $15k for two?

Or is the Ruby a loaner?
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post #132 of 830
9/16/06 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by Andrew P View Post

For sports I prefer DLP as the sharper image looks better, but for movies which is my true passion I prefer a more acurate representation for which LCOS has no equal in my opinion.

I am using Directv and I have to tell you the pixelation on HD is almost unwatchable. So disappointing, but this is the source and not the projector.

Andy, do you have a scaler? If so what kind? Also how is the HD hooked up, HDMI?
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post #133 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by tbacos View Post

If it's hard to justify $10k for one projector, isn't it even harder to justify $15k for two?

Or is the Ruby a loaner?

The Ruby is being sold. It is hard to justify $15k, but if you call AVS you could get both for much much less.
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post #134 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:01pm
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Andy, do you have a scaler? If so what kind? Also how is the HD hooked up, HDMI?

No scaler. Directv HD via HDMI and Toshiba HD-A1 via HDMI. I have a borrowed Blu Ray player but I only own the first batch of movies and the quality of those rival DVD.
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post #135 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:04pm
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No scaler. Directv HD via HDMI and Toshiba HD-A1 via HDMI. I have a borrowed Blu Ray player but I only own the first batch of movies and the quality of those rival DVD.


Yeah, Sony probally won't like my setup very much. I am ordering a HD-DVD player and I have an Xbox 360. Not very Sonyesq
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post #136 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:05pm
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Yeah, Sony probally won't like my setup very much. I am ordering a HD-DVD player and I have an Xbox 360. Not very Sonyesq

I have the Xbox 360 too, but havent tried it yet with the Pearl. I usually turn the sharpness way up when I play video games as this helps especially with LCOS.
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post #137 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:07pm
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The Ruby is being sold. It is hard to justify $15k, but if you call AVS you could get both for much much less.

One should be plenty, thanks.

I do plan on picking it up from AVS. I sent a PM to Jason yesterday, but I'm sure he's a little busy with the show for the next couple days. No rush...I still have to think of an excuse for the purchase to the wife.
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post #138 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:10pm
Hi everyone.Been reading the Forum for sometime now and finding myself posting on here for the first time after reading Djzelos Post and Congrats on your New Toy

I'm in the uk and been reading all the posts about the Ruby, Pearl and the Optoma HD81 as I'm looking for a new pj..Which is now moving towards the Pearl and the HD81 just need them tobe released here in the uk for a demo.. then its 1080p Time!

I willbe reading this Theread with interest .
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post #139 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:10pm
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Yeah, Sony probally won't like my setup very much. I am ordering a HD-DVD player and I have an Xbox 360. Not very Sonyesq

hey dzelos,

Toshiba is launching two new HD-DVD players. I have the A-1 and love it. It does such a great job with standard DVDs too which I've recently watched several including Lost City, Hotel Rhwanda, and Flight 93. All even though not HD-DVD look excellent.

Oh and where's the love, re: pm?
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post #140 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:12pm
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One should be plenty, thanks.

I do plan on picking it up from AVS. I sent a PM to Jason yesterday, but I'm sure he's a little busy with the show for the next couple days. No rush...I still have to think of an excuse for the purchase to the wife.

I think the Pearls will be available in late September. You should start a thread asking for excuses. The guys on here will definitely help you out. I am still single so I can make all the decisions still
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post #141 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:14pm
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hey dzelos,

Toshiba is launching two new HD-DVD players. I have the A-1 and love it. It does such a great job with standard DVDs too which I've recently watched several including Lost City, Hotel Rhwanda, and Flight 93. All even though not HD-DVD look excellent.

Oh and where's the love, re: pm?

Sorry, i have not got through all my PM's I currently have 62 new unread ones. I promise I'll get there. I think the new HD-DVD players are supposed to be out around Christmas correct?
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post #142 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:15pm
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I have the Xbox 360 too, but havent tried it yet with the Pearl. I usually turn the sharpness way up when I play video games as this helps especially with LCOS.

Cool, thanks for the tip. This is my first LCOS unit so I need to play around with it a little. I am going to run DVE through it tonight just to see what I come up with. Maybe for Christmas I will treat myself and have it calibrated.
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post #143 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:16pm
dzelos,

How does it feel to be the pretty girl in the room?

You can check the HD-DVD forum, but if you go with one of the new models, they will be out long before Christmas it sounds like.

Keep an eye on the HD-DVD player forum.
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post #144 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:16pm
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Cool, thanks for the tip. This is my first LCOS unit so I need to play around with it a little. I am going to run DVE through it tonight just to see what I come up with. Maybe for Christmas I will treat myself and have it calibrated.

Basically I set it up by changing the color temp from low to medium. Then I drop sharpness to zero. After than run DVE or VE and you should be fine.
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post #145 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:18pm
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I think the Pearls will be available in late September. You should start a thread asking for excuses. The guys on here will definitely help you out. I am still single so I can make all the decisions still


I hear the Pearl protects against solar flares. Also if enough are sold they will lower the terror threat level to magenta because the terrorist will be too busy watching Entourage on their new Pearl.
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post #146 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:20pm
Congrats Andy on getting yourself a Pearl. Thanks as well for your comments and impressions.

There was an ambiguous comment made about the Pearl pre-order a page back that I inquired about. No one replied so I guess everything is still good. Still though it would have been nice to have received an answer from Alan.

I still intend to pick up a Pearl ASAP. Not just sure where yet.

Andrew P and djzelos:

Do you guys game on Xbox Live? I'm on from time to time and if you guys would like to get together for a game or two at some point let me know and we can exchange tags.
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post #147 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:22pm
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Congrats Andy on getting yourself a Pearl. Thanks as well for your comments and impressions.

There was an ambiguous comment made about the Pearl pre-order a page back that I inquired about. No one replied so I guess everything is still good. Still though it would have been nice to have received an answer from Alan.

I still intend to pick up a Pearl ASAP. Not just sure where yet.

Andrew P and djzelos:

Do you guys game on Xbox Live? I'm on from time to time and if you guys would like to get together for a game or two at some point let me know and we can exchange tags.

The 360 I have now is hacked like Kung Pow Chicken so I can play burned games. It works on live but I don't like to chance it.
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post #148 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:29pm
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Congrats Andy on getting yourself a Pearl. Thanks as well for your comments and impressions.

There was an ambiguous comment made about the Pearl pre-order a page back that I inquired about. No one replied so I guess everything is still good. Still though it would have been nice to have received an answer from Alan.

I still intend to pick up a Pearl ASAP. Not just sure where yet.

Andrew P and djzelos:

Do you guys game on Xbox Live? I'm on from time to time and if you guys would like to get together for a game or two at some point let me know and we can exchange tags.

I haven't gamed on Xbox live in awhile, but I just picjed up Madden 07 and NHL2K7. I have been playing offline though.

Anyway back on topic. Some more impressions and this comes from a Pearl that still isn't fully setup. The Ruby seems to have slightly better color reproduction. This is not a major issue, but I felt the colors seemed more pleasing to my eye with the Ruby.

The sharpness on both units is very good (doesnt compete with DLP, but that is inherent in LCOS technology). In fact, I feel like the Pearl it slightly sharper than the Ruby. I never felt like I could dial in my Ruby from a focus perspective, but the Pearl was pretty simple.

The Pearl also puts out a lot of heat just like the Ruby. I love the addition of dual HDMI's as I can hook up Directv and my HD DVD player at the same time. Any other questions as I should be around for another hour or so?
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post #149 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:37pm
i would be interested to hear any comments on how the 360 looks on the pearl once you have time to set them up =) any lag in response time?
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post #150 of 830
9/16/06 at 1:47pm
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i would be interested to hear any comments on how the 360 looks on the pearl once you have time to set them up =) any lag in response time?

There are no problems with the Xbox 360 using the Ruby so I do not expect any with the Pearl.
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