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post #61 of 830
9/15/06 at 7:10pm
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do you have a ceiling mount for this yet? I need to know if the Chief or Sony mount has come out for this pj yet. I also have a homemade light grey screen which I'm sure will look great. Now I just need to sell some stuff to get this thing! Also, you should try to use a tripod to get some non-blurry pics.....thanks so far!


It's not going to be ceiling mounted, bookshelf style only. The camera was sitting on a shelf using a timer. I think it's just the camera. I will setup mine tomorow and take some more pics.
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post #62 of 830
9/15/06 at 7:11pm
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Could you check something for me. I am trying to determine where to mount my projector - How far back in the room. My screen current WIDTH (NOT DIAGONAL, JUST WIDTH) is 55 inches. Eventually I will replace it with a larger screen, so 55 inches is minumum width and it could go to double that (110 inches). So I'm looking for the optimum distance to mount the projector where the zoom can handle a range of 55 to 110 inches.

Thanks for your help.

I'm pretty rookie at this so I don't exactly know what you are asking.
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post #63 of 830
9/15/06 at 7:17pm
Seems like I'm seeing dead pixels on that pics, is it just me?
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post #64 of 830
9/15/06 at 7:18pm
There should be some info in the set-up guide about distance ranges from the screen versus screen sizes. It should be a chart. I have been trying to get one from the Sony Style web-site, but they haven't put it up there yet.
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post #65 of 830
9/15/06 at 7:25pm
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Seems like I'm seeing dead pixels on that pics, is it just me?

Seems like quite a few stuck pixels???
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post #66 of 830
9/15/06 at 7:26pm
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Seems like I'm seeing dead pixels on that pics, is it just me?

Yeah, I addressed that in one of my posts. It is the camera not the projector.
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post #67 of 830
9/15/06 at 7:29pm
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There should be some info in the set-up guide about distance ranges from the screen versus screen sizes. It should be a chart. I have been trying to get one from the Sony Style web-site, but they haven't put it up there yet.

I thought throw was supposed to be exactly the same as the Ruby- if so, you can you the throw calc on the projectorcentral website.

I spent some time with a Ruby yesterday and they had a 100" screen (wide) image from ~14' back (with the zoom engaged most of the way (topping the zoom out brought the image up to around 110"
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post #68 of 830
9/15/06 at 7:31pm
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Alright you guys wore me out for today. I am going to pack this thing back up and take it home from my brother in laws. Being only 24 years old and living in a kinda crappy apartment I don't have the greatest home theater setup. I will take some HD shots tomorrow and try to answer some more questions. If everyone is patient I think I may be able to get to all of them. Also a big thanks to everyone, it was nice to share this experience with all of you. I will keep the info coming until all of you have the chance to pick one up for yourselves.

Also Alan, thanks so much man. You made my entire month! Seriously anyone who wants one of these get a hold of AVS. I am telling you there is no way you will be disappointed.


Chris
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post #69 of 830
9/15/06 at 7:32pm
Thanks, I'll check the Ruby specs.
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post #70 of 830
9/15/06 at 7:35pm
Awesome to include everyone in the arrival of the new toy. HD results, yes, by all means.
And remember your comments are worth more than the screen shots.

(Don't forget to watch some football and/or other sports and let us know your thoughts!)
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post #71 of 830
9/15/06 at 8:04pm
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Originally Posted by rbouch8828 View Post

There should be some info in the set-up guide about distance ranges from the screen versus screen sizes. It should be a chart. I have been trying to get one from the Sony Style web-site, but they haven't put it up there yet.

From the specs that Tryg posted in the main thread, it has a zoom of 1.8.

In order to be able to project an image that is twice as wide, from the same distance, it would have to have a zoom of 2.0 or more.

Anyone feel free to correct me if I am mistaken about this.

From a calculator on another site (using different projector with a similar throw), the projector must be 12' 8" or more from the screen to achieve the 110" width. This would be the distance that would give you the maximum brightness at this screen size.

The 55" width can only be achieved when the distance from the projector to the screen is 11' 0" or less.

So you will have to move your projector at least 20 inches to make the screen swap.

My suggestion, mount it at 13 feet, and use a Blackout cloth screen until you get the new one. Also, a model C dalite hipower screen would not be that much money.

Best Regards,
Doug
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post #72 of 830
9/15/06 at 8:26pm
Doug,

I found the manual for the Ruby on the Sony Style site and it has a series of charts starting on page 76 that give details for various screen sizes. If i did the calculations right, it looks like I can mount it anywhere from about 131 inches back to about 141 inches back and still cover both screen sizes with the zoom. This is only if the Ruby and the Pearl have the same lens and path.

I have checked the drop to the center of the screen too and that looks like I will have to come in at about 25 inches to accommodate a proscenium I have over the screen. Based on their chart, it looks like I will be alright.

Now I just have to figure out how to run an HDMI cable though the ceiling and over a carrying beam and then turn 90 degrees and run under an AC return duct into my mechanical room and then behind a wall into my equipment rack. That will be fun.
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post #73 of 830
9/15/06 at 8:55pm
djzelos:

Congrats on getting your Pearl and thanks for taking the time to post those pics and to answer questions.
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post #74 of 830
9/15/06 at 9:11pm
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Tomorrow I am really going to type up something in depth. I will cover Standard Def, DVD, Scaling, Contrast, Black Levels, Auto Iris accuracy and if I am missing anything please remind me. I will tell you that SD looks excellent, I was very surprised. I am thinking the processor in the Pearl is much better then anyone is giving it credit for.
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post #75 of 830
9/15/06 at 9:35pm
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Tomorrow I am really going to type up something in depth. I will cover Standard Def, DVD, Scaling, Contrast, Black Levels, Auto Iris accuracy...

I look forward to that. Thanks again.


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I will tell you that SD looks excellent, I was very surprised. I am thinking the processor in the Pearl is much better then anyone is giving it credit for.

My eyes aren't as "trained" (yet!) as the PJ aficionados around here, but I thought the shots you posted, esp. the 480i material, looked great all things being considered.

I'm impressed enough that I think I may go ahead and pre-order from AVS - if the price is good.
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post #76 of 830
9/15/06 at 10:00pm
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I look forward to that. Thanks again.




My eyes aren't as "trained" (yet!) as the PJ aficionados around here, but I thought the shots you posted, esp. the 480i material, looked great all things being considered.

I'm impressed enough that I think I may go ahead and pre-order from AVS - if the price is good.


I can't write what it is but let me tell you it's a great price. Especially considering what sony style has it going for.
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post #77 of 830
9/15/06 at 10:02pm
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Tomorrow I am really going to type up something in depth. I will cover Standard Def, DVD, Scaling, Contrast, Black Levels, Auto Iris accuracy and if I am missing anything please remind me. I will tell you that SD looks excellent, I was very surprised. I am thinking the processor in the Pearl is much better then anyone is giving it credit for.

I think the problem is not that people aren't giving the processor credit, but rather that we don't know anything about it. If you have some reliable way of testing the 1080i deinterlacing of film and video based content, please let us know what's up.
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post #78 of 830
9/15/06 at 10:05pm
Damn! I am jelous! I just got back from Cedia and I was blown away by the Pearl demo! Granted I have been watching an AE900 and Z3, but still, WOW! The image was so detailed and SO CLEAR! Vibrant, 1080i looked un-freakin believable!

Congratulations! I look forward to more of your report!
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post #79 of 830
9/15/06 at 11:23pm
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As for as brightness goes I have it in low mode and it is more then bright enough. That actually may be and understatement.

What was the light-control in the room like where you watched it and how wide was the screen? Also, the screen gain? Thanks.
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post #80 of 830
9/16/06 at 12:02am
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I'm impressed enough that I think I may go ahead and pre-order from AVS - if the price is good.

Order it from AVS. You will not be disappointed. These guys are first class all the way!
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post #81 of 830
9/16/06 at 5:21am
How do I order from AVS? Is there a link?
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post #82 of 830
9/16/06 at 5:36am
How about noise level of the fan. Can you hear it?
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post #83 of 830
9/16/06 at 5:50am
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What was the light-control in the room like where you watched it and how wide was the screen? Also, the screen gain? Thanks.

The pics I have posted so far were on at my brother in laws. He has a dedicated home theater with a 96" 1.0 gain screen in a fully lighting controlled room. We also left the lights on as a test and the image does not get washed out very badly. That is important to me because I have less of a light controlled environment.
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post #84 of 830
9/16/06 at 5:50am
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How do I order from AVS? Is there a link?

Call them or PM Alan.
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post #85 of 830
9/16/06 at 5:52am
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Originally Posted by rbouch8828 View Post

How about noise level of the fan. Can you hear it?

It's really quite. In lamp mode "high" I can hear it from about a foot away but its real low frequency so it's almost like you have to try to hear it. In low mode it's non existent.
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post #86 of 830
9/16/06 at 5:53am
Do you think you would hear it in High mode if it were on the ceiling, directly overhead?
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post #87 of 830
9/16/06 at 5:58am
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Damn! I am jelous! I just got back from Cedia and I was blown away by the Pearl demo! Granted I have been watching an AE900 and Z3, but still, WOW! The image was so detailed and SO CLEAR! Vibrant, 1080i looked un-freakin believable!

Congratulations! I look forward to more of your report!

Toe,

Was that 1080i film or video? Do you know what source/input?
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post #88 of 830
9/16/06 at 6:09am
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Morning guys. Ok here's the deal, I usually sleep till about 11:30 on Saturday but I was so excited I could not sleep. As I mentioned yesterday those pics were taken at my brother in laws who has a dedicated home theater. Being 24 years old and living in a crappy apartment my setup is not nearly as nice.

I have a 96 Da-Lite 1.0 Gain in Matte White. The projector is on a table 13' back from the screen. The power is conditioned by a Monster Reference Power Center. Video will come from 3 sources. 1. Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8300HD DVR, my cable provider is Cablevision of NJ. It will be connected to the projector via a 2m HDMI cable 2. A Denon 1910 DVD Player. It will also be connected to the projector via a 2m HDMI cable. 3. An Xbox 360. It will be connected to the projector via component cables.

My room does not have good lighting control during the day. I will block as much out as I can but won't post a full review till later tonight when I can really evaluate what this thing can do. After I got rid of my Yamaha LPX-510 I bought a 46 Samsung LCD TV to hold me over until some sweet well priced 1080p unit came out. The reason I bring this up is because I have to move all of my components back to the projectors AV rack. I also need to buy another HDMI cable today and rerun everything. It should take me a while but I promise I will get a solid review up tonight (as soon as it gets dark) as well as trying to post through out the day.
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post #89 of 830
9/16/06 at 6:10am
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Do you think you would hear it in High mode if it were on the ceiling, directly overhead?

Not a chance.
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post #90 of 830
9/16/06 at 7:15am
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I had a dream last night that there was Sony Pearl sitting in my living room. It was a much nicer setup with a lot less people then CEDIA. Here's where it gets strange, I woke up this morning and wouldn't you know it there was the box sitting in my living room. I really can't believe that I am one of the first consumers in the country to have this thing.

I'm sure some of you are thinking oh this guy probably works for AVS or something like that, If one of you had posted it that's what I would think. I will be dead honest with you guys. I have no affiliation with AVS other then reading their message board. It was literally as simple as PMing Alan and next thing I knew he called me and I drove to get my Pearl.

As you can see from my post count I usually don't post very much but since Alan and AVS went out their way for me. Even giving up his own personal unit to me I felt I wanted to get everyone else as excited as I was.

Based on the equipment I told you guys I have if there is anything you want me to test let me know. Oh and how to do it would be helpful, I will keep reminding you I am a rookie.
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