Infocus IN72 Specific Thread - Page 11

Here is my situation.

When I am watching HD (feeding 720p via HDMI) I of course want the aspect ratio
at 16:9. But I also watch non-HD digital channels which do look amazing
when I feed 480i via HDMI and use letter box option.

Now is there a way to program this on a button or make the PJ automatically
pick the aspect ratio depending on whether I feed 720p or 480i via HDMI ?


I know in letter box I lose 1/8th at the top and bottom of the 4:3 image but I have not felt that at all. The image looks just fine. I dont watch CNN or CNBC!

Ust picked up my IN 72 a couple weeks ago and I am very happy, HD and DVD both look great.

Quick question though for all you video experts out there concerning my HTPC setup; I am using Ffdshow for post-processing both DVD and DVIX and the results are great, but I think I am being redundent when I don't have to be:

Is there any point to this scenario: I have the Ffdshow settings set to upscale both dvix and dvd to 1440 x 960. Am I just upscaling the video, and then the IN72 is downscaling it back to 480? Should I just upscale all the files to 867 x 480? Will the results have the same quality?

Thanksfor any help!

Just purchased a IN72 as a replacement for my X1 which came down with the color wheel "buzz" blues. Overall, I'm impressed with the brightness of the projector as well as color saturation. Maybe I'm a little too concious of noise now that I've been listening to that dredded Buzz whine from the X1 but does anyone think the wheel whine on the IN72 is too loud? I notice a difference in pitch going from low to high power and I'm trying to remember how "quiet" the X1 was before it started going bad. Comments?

quick question. does the IN72 do 1:1 pixel map through both the M1 and HDMI or just the M1?

Both.

Hi all,

I just became one of the new batch of IN72 owners due to the great pricing that was available at the end of the year. I "upgraded" from my 4805 and for the most part I am pleased. The color saturation is incredible and this thing is a light cannon! I have even learned to deal with the slightly smoother image it puts out.

I think that the reduced noise alone made this purchase worth it.

I am currently looking for a new ceiling mount. The one I used for my 4805 was just a little cheapy thing that I made from one of those speaker mounts. Has anybody tried one of those mounts on Ebay from MountDirect?

Are they any good?

I picked up a mount from eBay and am pleased with it. It's simple but effective and the mount plate doesn't block the access door so they're is no need to take the projector down just to change the bulb. Check this listing number: 220069164987. This mount has a nice low profile as well, so it doesn't hang very low.

The picture is of the 4805, but it will fit the In72 perfectly. Other's seem to like this one: Item # 220068128927 but it didn't appear to have a "tilt" adjustment for side to side. I can't confirm because I don't have that one.

Which mounting holes on the bottom of the IN72 does this mount use? I heard that the mounting holes that are used by the swivel base that comes with the projector should not be used in a ceiling mount application because it can cause damage to the case. There are three other holes in the case that are in some weird configuration that should be used.

Are these the ones that this mount uses?

Yes, the silver mount I have lines up perfectly with the hole to be used for ceiling mount. I had no issues with mine. The only room for improvement might be a sort of "click-lock" system instead of a friction fitting like it has now. However, once you lock it down and tighten the bolts, it seems fine to me. I'm sure if you were to pay significantly more you could get a better mount, but the one I have suits the need.

I just purchased an IN 72 as my first projector following a lot of research. The price was just too good not to give front projection a try. It appears that the natural DVD pairing for this is the Bravo D1, but i am not very confident in the "fix" that's described on this site. How does this projector do with just a good progressive scan DVD player through component? Is the D1 a night and day difference? Just a newbie trying to make sense of all this. Any replies would be really most welcome.

Well, what I love about the D1 is that you can leave the projector in its native resolution. I find there is no need to switch because the image is always in proportion. That said, my JVC progressive scan at 480p via component looked awesome too. I'm going to try my new Onkyo via HDMI as well.

Yep not everyone likes to buy a DVD player and drill holes and change capacitors etc. A lot of people are so picky about 1:1 pixel mapping. There is always some scaling done at some point. DVD's dont come at 854x480. So the DVD player has to scale 720x480 to 854x480. What is the guarantee that this scaling done by Bravo is the gold standard. Am I missing something here.

I am using the Panaconic XP50 which is pretty much same as XP30 (which receives 91 at hometheaterhifi.com) except that XP50 can do dvd-audio.
I am using component. I very much doubt if the picture quality can be improved any further and even if it could be improved, I doubt if my eyes can perceive them.

Note that XP50 has the genesis FLI2200 chip which does top notch deinterlacing. So the 480P output from XP50 or XP30 will be top notch. Not all prog. scan DVD players will do a good job as not all prog. scan DVD players come with top notch deinterlacing. In that case you can feed In72 480i and let IN72 do the deinterlacing.

I would buy OPPO DV-971H as it will be a good investment for future also. This is a top rated DVD player. Dont worry about
1:1 pixel mapping like others dwell on it. Get a decent DVI-HDMI
from monoprice.com. If you want to feed HD also digitally then you will
have to get DVI-M1DA cable also. Again you can get cheap ones at monoprice. I got the HDMI-DVI cable from monoprice. It looks like a $100 cable. So far no problems.

I also feed 480i via HDMI for regular cable TV and even regular SD channels look great even in the letter box mode. I prefer to see 4:3 zoomed in 16:9. I dont even notice that I am losing 1/8th of the 4:3 image at the top and bottom.

I have modded well over 300 units without secondary failures. What's your problem?
The component output is crappy. Get a D2 for excellent component output.
Yes - for anyone who understands what they are looking at.

Is anyone using an HD DVD player with their IN72? I'm using an HD-A1, and the image looks the same to me as it did on my 4805, but I just want an opinion on which resolution it's best to output at. Also, doesn't this thing accept a 1080p signal? All I can get it to read is a 1080i, is there any way to change this?

Do any of you new IN72 owners have an SP4805 with a burned out lamp??

I am looking for a SP4805 lamp assembly for an experiment.

I'll gladly pay costs!

i run my HD-A1 through my in72. i've been meaning to pick up an HD-A2, but until Toshiba fixes the colorspace issues, black crush and dvi issues i'm waiting. when they do, i'll move my HD-A1 downstairs on my IN76.

the HD-A1 is not capable of 1080p. set it at 1080i.

what type of experiement?

i'll sign an nda

i have the 4805 and in72, I'm noticing that on the 72 with the D1 there is some extra dead space (black unused pixel area) on the left and right of the image. When I hit the zoom in overscan menu it fills in the area. There looks like a few unused pixels more on the left of the image.

Is something off? I don't remember unused pixel area on the 4805, there is still some dead area of light, but no unused pixels.

Another engineer friend and I have an alternate light source which we'd like to try and retrofit.

Is that right? I thought it was capable of 1080p with the latest firmware update. Maybe that was just a rumor that never came to fruition.

One other question. I have an M1-DA---> HDMI cable I've been using with the HD-A1 on the IN72, but just yesterday I switched to just an HDMI cable to see if there was any difference to be seen. Well, the picture looks different with the default settings - worse with the HDMI cable for some reason, I had to up the contrast and brightness to almost 70 a piece just to see any detail -, why do you think this is?

Also, do the "magic numbers" of the 4805's digital input also work on the IN72?

I am new here and thinking about a projector. Infocus still has this listed at $599 on their site. I have read every post in this thread and everyone seems to rave about this projector. My question is, does anyone have anything negative to say about it? I am just looking for something that I can get a good picture out of. It will be used for normal digital cable (Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8300), a cheap DVD player (Sanyo Progressive Scan Model #DWM-450) , and my PS2. The sound will come from my Pioneer VSX-D510. I plan on mounting it from the ceiling in my basement.

Is this the unit for me? I don't know all the terms you guys use, and I really don't want to buy all new components. I really just want to keep it simple but will I be happy with this unit right out of the box?

No. You have to change the Color Settings from "Auto" to "RGB-VIDEO" which will accomplish the same thing as the magic number on the 4805.

mshaeffer, first, welcome to the forum! Believe me, for a projector newbie, you've come to the right place. Many experts here are generous with their time and will help you if they can. Of course you have a few choices but the InFocus IN72, at these prices is the hands down winner in the low budget sweepstakes. It is the next generation up from what was the most popular projector ever in the AVS forum. Something like 2 million hits on that thread if I'm not mistaken.
There's some shuffling going on at InFocus corporate and I'm guessing the low price of the 72 is a result of this. It's definitely worth the original $1299 price. It throws a wonderful picture and comes very well calibrated out of the box (this is important). DO give the pj a chance though, get a good DVD player. The OPPO 971H is the pj of choice for those wanting top of the line pq on a beer budget. It's under $200 and can be had for around $125 since they came out with a new model that's similar with SACD. Try taking a look at VIDEOGON..COM Hell, you can probably get a few bucks for the DVD player you have now, also, try Craigslist. You can just use what you have for a while, but you won't know what you're missing unless you give the OPPO a try. Don't worry, go get the 72 while the gettin's good, you won't be sorry.

This is from an earlier IN72 post of mine in response to some griping:
" I'd like to offer a different perspective for balance. Two and a half years ago I went to the Stereophile Home Enttertainment Show here in NYC. Sony's $25,000 Qualia was a highlight as well as JVC's $20.000 D-ILA projector. The InFocus 4805 came scarily close to those thoroughbreds in color accuracy, brightness and black level. Prior to it's release I had only dreamed of being able to afford to see such a wonderful picture in my home. The IN72 beats the 4805 in certain ways. The IN72 was still fair priced when it was $1299, in my opinion. At the current price I wouldn't care if they sent it by camel in an egg carton as long as it arrived safely. It's a good time of the year to remember our blessings, wouldn't you agree"

yeah, the in72 rocks.

Well said billymac!

How reliable is the IN72 lamp? Anyone out there had theirs fail before 500 hours?

Another IN72 owner here. I've had mine for about 3 months now with a little over 200 hours logged in. For the price it's an incredible machine. I currently watch mostly high definition content(Sony Blu Ray, OTA HD television) and I couldn't be happier. Yeah, it isn't a true high def projector, but it scales HD content so well, it might as well be. The only problem is rainbows. I'm very sensitive to them and this projector delievers them in spades. For the price though, I've decided to overlook them. Half the time I don't even notice them unless I'm looking for them.

mskezer, sometimes people see fewer rainbows as the brightness recedes from a new bulb getting some hours logged in. Also, some people get used to it and barely notice them after a while. Try calibrating (if you haven't already). I get occasional DLP headaches, especially if I watch two movies in a row without a break, but get them less frequently if I watch regularly. Give it time, you may "grow out of it". Good luck either way.

I have recently purchased the IN72 and have nothing but praise for it so far. Although there aren't that many hours on it (<20hrs). The Buckeyes still looked phenomenal while playing the worse game of the year last Monday. I will try and post some screen shots with my wife's new Kodak Z710 7.1 mega pixel camera in the near future. Have not done the cap mod yet for the also new Bravo D1. Did hook it up via DVI to HDMI connection to the IN72, and got it pixel mapped 1:1, but most likely will have to redo it since it has been unplugged since. Waiting for a longer DVI to HDMI cable to come back in stock at monoprice. (only need a 10 footer).

i have tested many DVD players with my various Infocus PJs (LP350/SP4805/IN72) over the years including HTPC
SIGMA chip based STB DVD players like the Bravo/Momitsu are the BEST
but they come with various Handicaps and needed Mods (not for the PlugNplay crowd)


how do they compare? What do i see

the more SCALING the SOFTER it gets....
854x480 @ 48hz (eliminates 3/2 pulldown) gives U the BEST PQ
oth....NO-FUSS-NO-MUSS...out of the BOX great PQ and Better reliable operation
get the OPPO 971H -> DVI -> IN72