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Monoprice 25ft HDMI Cable 24AWG/22AWG - 1080P Compatible???

post #1 of 19
9/16/06 at 6:17am
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I'm getting close to my pre-drywall meeting and I need to purchase 25 feet of HDMI cable for my projector wiring. Anybody knows if the 25ft 24AWG HDMI cable from Monoprice is 1080p compatible? Or should I get the 22AWG instead?

Frank
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post #2 of 19
9/16/06 at 7:21am
I can think of no reason why it wouldn't be but for the extra $8 bucks I would buy the 22 AWG cable anyways. If you need 100% certainty just give them a call but I'm sure the 24 works just as well as the 22 for a 25 ft run.

I suggest you also run conduit (if you haven't already) so that your covered not just for the HDMI but any other cables you may need in the future

Cheers
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post #3 of 19
9/16/06 at 11:53am
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Originally Posted by calv1n View Post

I can think of no reason why it wouldn't be but for the extra $8 bucks I would buy the 22 AWG cable anyways. If you need 100% certainty just give them a call but I'm sure the 24 works just as well as the 22 for a 25 ft run.

The only reason i'm thinking of going with the 24awg is that it is available now while the 22 is out of stock and has been pushed back til' the 21st. Originally it was gonna be available on the 15th and i'm afraid if I wait a little bit longer, it won't make it in time for me to wire it through the ceiling before drywall.

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I suggest you also run conduit (if you haven't already) so that your covered not just for the HDMI but any other cables you may need in the future

Cheers

Did that already
somebody had posted somewhere that the 22awg was too thick that they couldn't pass it through conduuit and had to return it for a 24 instead.

Anyway, yeh, i'll probably give them a call Monday just to be sure. Thank you for responding.


btw... checked out your construction thread. Nice house. I'm also having my home built from the ground up (pics up in my member's gallery). I know what you mean by getting frustrated/stressed out by the builder. Fortunately, mine has been top-notch so far and they pretty much listen to what I want. As long as the changes I want are not of structure and code issues. My house is one level with a upstairs bonus room that will serve as my dedicated HT. We are looking at December closing. Anyway, best of luck and thanks again.
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post #4 of 19
9/16/06 at 3:50pm
Thanks for the kind words.
Did you try blue jean cables they are a pretty good alternative to monoprice as well might be worth a call. I'm surprized the conduit is that small that the difference between a 24 and a 22 AWG is problematic is it to late to get a larger diameter conduit installed ?
Good luck with the rest of your build as well.
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post #5 of 19
9/28/06 at 12:19pm
I need to buy some HDMI cables for a new install I'm getting ready to do as well. I want to try and get it right the first time, because it will be difficult to make changes later. I want to be able to support HDMI 1.3 devices and I'm trying to figure out if a 25' tin plated copper 22 AWG cable (monoprice) will do the job, or would I have better luck with a 25' silver plated copper 24 AWG cable (bluejeans). Any advice is appreciated.
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post #6 of 19
9/28/06 at 4:01pm
I've never had any issue with any Monoprice cable so I can recommend them highly - I have several at 50' lengths as well so I can't see any issue with the same cables at 25'
Cheers
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post #7 of 19
9/29/06 at 5:22am
HDMI 1.1 & 1.2 spec calls for 5 gig pass, 1080P takes about 1.65.
So by spec ANY HDMI cable that is certified will handle 1080P.
HDMI 1.3 however is a cable of a different color.
HDMI 1.3 spec calls for a 10 gig pass, to my knowledge (I have asked) nothing over 5 meters has been 1.3 certified yet.
HOWEVER, THERE IS NOTHING EVEN IN THE NOT SO NEAR DISTANCE FUTURE THAT CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE EXTENDED VIDEO BANDWIDTH.
The extended audio features that we will see someday can all be passed by HDMI 1.2 certified cables.
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post #8 of 19
9/29/06 at 12:09pm
So here's my understanding of HDMI 1.1 vs. 1.3

The HDMI 1.1 bandwidth specification is 4.95 Gbs at 165 MHz. The HDMI 1.3 specification increases bandwidth to 10.2 Gbps at 340 Mhz. But the cable is supposed to have additional headroom to 13.5 Gbps at 450 MHz. The idea being that there needs to be a safety factor in the cable design. You don't want to manufacture a cable that can just barely handle the traffic.

I've talked to Monoprice and e-mailed Bluejeans cable. Monoprice is talking to their factory, Bluejeans doesn't test the bandwith of their current cable, but they have a new high performance HDMI cable coming in early 2007.

So far it seems to be a bit of a dice toss. I'm still doing research.
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post #9 of 19
9/29/06 at 12:20pm
Brent,

I was re-reading your post and saw the part about nothing over 5 Meters has passed a 1.3 test. Can you tell me what cables you are aware of that have passed at 5 Meters (or less)?
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post #10 of 19
9/29/06 at 4:29pm
I can tell you that our new Ethereal EXS Silver series HDMI 1-5 meters have been certified.
Also Denon has a 2 meter that has been approved.
We should be shipping the 1-5 meter EXS product in November (we are re-doing the packaging to reflect the 1.3 cert.).
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post #11 of 19
9/29/06 at 10:02pm
Thanks Brent. It's too bad that it won't be available until November. I don't think I'll be able to wait that long. I think I'll just have to go as big an AWG with as short a run as possible and hope for the best.
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post #12 of 19
5/24/07 at 9:58am
Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the 22awg and the 24awg?

I just purchased the Mitsubishi HD1000U projector and want to purchase a quality HDMI wire to go to my receiver. I am just not sure the extra money is worth it to get a 2awg thicker wire.
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post #13 of 19
5/24/07 at 10:38am
[quote=TheIcon]Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the 22awg and the 24awg?
QUOTE]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge
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post #14 of 19
5/24/07 at 11:21am
Thanks. I understand about thickness and resistence etc. But has anyone noticed a significant difference between using a 22 vs a 24?
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post #15 of 19
5/24/07 at 3:29pm
I have the 25ft 24AWG HDMI cable from monoprice. I have no problems with it. And the cable itself is huge! You will be fine with the 24AWG
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post #16 of 19
6/28/08 at 6:15am
when talking about if it will pass 1080p, what happens if you make the 25ft cable 35 feet instead?
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post #17 of 19
6/30/08 at 4:06pm
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Originally Posted by smakovits View Post

when talking about if it will pass 1080p, what happens if you make the 25ft cable 35 feet instead?

It gets longer? Seriously, over on Blue Jeans Cable they have some good articles on HDMI cables. Basically the longer the cable the more difficult it is to pass 1080p/60 through the cable correctly. At long cable lengths it becomes difficult to predict what your performance will be with 1080p/60 because it will depend as much on the quality of the HDMI encoder chips inside your equipment as it will on the cable. If you stay at 1080i or 1080p/24 there is less of a problem with longish lengths. So, to answer your question, it really does get longer and most people don't have problems at 35ft, but no one can give you a definitive answer unless they have your exact equipment and the cable you are considering.
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post #18 of 19
6/30/08 at 9:15pm
I would be sending the signal via a Onkyo SR-805 to a projector of the z2000, ae2000 or 1080 UB pro flavor. Then because of what I read between the silver vs tin coated I am going to do tin because there is not a major difference between the two. And then to take what I read on Blue jeans, I will go with the 22 AWG vs the 24 AWG monoprice cable. It appears that with the 22 AWG you are pretty safe up to about 50ft...

I willl be curious how I will guide the larger 22 AWG, but I am sure I can manage as long as I guarantee myself performance.
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post #19 of 19
7/2/09 at 10:17pm
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Originally Posted by TheIcon View Post

Thanks. I understand about thickness and resistence etc. But has anyone noticed a significant difference between using a 22 vs a 24?

Between my DVIGear SHR 2 meter 22AWG cable vs Monoprice 6' 24AWG, I don't see a difference.
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