The official Toshiba 62MX196/72MX196 OWNER'S THREAD

Finally pulled the trigger and bought the 72MX196. Previously owned a KDFE60A20 with good overall pq but weak Black depth.

Samsung HL-S7178W was a tough contender: better default colors than Tosh but too blurry for my tastes and especially on xbox 360...

Sony is too expensive and Mitsubushi is not available in CANADA and seems to have average dvd PQ...

For me MX series wins over HM just for individual color managment...

More to come

The set was delivered just yesterday so I have about only 3 to 4 hours playing with it from 11 to 3 am last night and a couple of hours today. So far so good, no RBE for me. The only time I saw RBE was on a 2 years old 50" Toshiba set with Sin City but I had to turn my head really fast away from the set to see them. This week I'll rent it again to see if I can see RBE on my set...

I'll try to take some pics soon

I don't know much about the mx195 but from what I read:

-There seems to be a fairly annoying fan noise problem with the 195. I don't have that with the 72mx196. The noise may be there but barely noticable so to me it's not an issue. My xbox 360 is MUCH louder.

-One professional reviewer wrote there where only one global user preference setting for all inputs on the HM195 regarding picture settings such as brightness, color, noise reduction and so on... On the 72MX196 I can set personal preference for each input individually.

-From what I saw in a store and read in reviews (HM195) the MX195 has more bluish blacks. This is not an issue on my 72MX196 but it may have to do with ambient lighting...

-Contrast and black details are also said to be better on the MX196. All I can say is that Black level on this set is beyond my expectations (having previously seen my friend's 56HMX95 on which blacks where not that deep, especially under dim ambient lighting). In a room with no light, blacks are not completely inky but reeeeally not far from it. Detail in blacks compares to what I saw on sony LCoS sets.

The MX196 inputs only 1080i via HDMI and upconverts to 1080p but it's good at it, at least visually. On my Sony KDF60EA20 I was able to send good looking 720p signal via DVI-HDMI from my PC my but 1080i was way too blurry and barely readable. On the MX196, 1080i(1080p) is crystal clear via DVI-HDMI. (I was only able to get 1024x768 (4/3) using VGA input which is not good enough for me and this why I prefer to use HDMI input over VGA).

So far I am really REALLY satisfied with my purchase (my wife could testify ) especially when using my 360 at 1080i. Picture never looked better! The sreen is big and razor sharp on the 360! DVDs are excellent too. Even SD signal (with mpeg noise reduction activated) is better than it was on my KDFE60A20 regarless of the 12 inches size difference.

Here's my setup, photo quality is soso, I'm not a photograph

Thanks for the info slaxer07

Maybe the fan noise is a only bug on a few sets... or on the HM195 model?? I was reading about that in another thread just before i received my MX196 and it got me worried... for nothing!

Can we also configure inputs of HM195/196 individually?

I saw bluish black on one MX195 but there were really not that bad. I read somewhere that default warm temperature on HM195 sets was around 11000 k... which would tend to be a little blue... anyways if it's not the case it's a good thing!

I'll double check my user manual for the 1080i/p inputs... but as I said 1080(i or p) pc input is way sharper than it was on my previous Sony LCD set (which had a native resolution of 768p). I'm very satisfied with the result regardless of the i/p inputs... I guess progressive would explain the clarity tho...

I bought the 71" samsung stand (TR71..something) and I am very happy with it. It is about half an inch wider than the 72MX196 and a inch and a half deeper (see pic above). The reason I didn't buy the toshiba stand is because it has a vertical support right in the middle and that would have prevented me too center my center channel under the TV...

A few more DVD pics... white balance on my camera is unstable so be gentle ... and contrast is better on the real thing...

HDTV pics...

360 pics

and finaly preview pics...

Boy do I love this TV!!!

Manual says 1080i

I can easily force myself to see RBE in Sin City if I suddenly turn my head away from the screen. But if I keep my eyes on the screen I don't see them.

This is exactly why dlp's RBE is not an issue for me... as long as I don't sit too close to my set!

What is color banding?

Forget the question I have found my answer here

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