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post #151 of 570
Looking forward to getting the 62 "HM" 196 model in a few days.

Tv's I returned in the last month & a half!

Sony KDS60A2000 - Green tint
Samsung HL6187 - Lot of RBE
Sony KDS60A2000 - Screen Tlit issue
Sony KDL46V2500 - Green Blob + my eyes hurt after just 1 hour of viewing!


EDIT

Just curious if this set uses Wobulation? Doesn't matter that much to me but I have not seen it discussed here so I am under the impression it doesn't use it.
post #152 of 570
Dang! That beats me. I went through two before the third set (62HM116) was the charm. Good luck with number five, Krammer1.
post #153 of 570
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krammer1 View Post

Looking forward to getting the 62 "HM" 196 model in a few days.

Tv's I returned in the last month & a half!

Sony KDS60A2000 - Green tint
Samsung HL6187 - Lot of RBE
Sony KDS60A2000 - Screen Tlit issue
Sony KDL46V2500 - Green Blob + my eyes hurt after just 1 hour of viewing!


EDIT

Just curious if this set uses Wobulation? Doesn't matter that much to me but I have not seen it discussed here so I am under the impression it doesn't use it.

All 1080P DLPs use wobulation still.
post #154 of 570
Any chance Eliab would come out to Nashville and calibrate my 62mx196? have any of you noticed when white print is on a all black backround it will bleed light into the dark area, i really have only noticed this with the lamp on high and the lights down. (also when the Toshiba HD DVD logo is in the lower right corner you can see some light cast in a very faint ray to the other corner of the screen. I am thinking i have a overscan prob.
post #155 of 570
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krammer1 View Post

Looking forward to getting the 62 "HM" 196 model in a few days.

Tv's I returned in the last month & a half!

Sony KDS60A2000 - Green tint
Samsung HL6187 - Lot of RBE
Sony KDS60A2000 - Screen Tlit issue
Sony KDL46V2500 - Green Blob + my eyes hurt after just 1 hour of viewing!


EDIT

Just curious if this set uses Wobulation? Doesn't matter that much to me but I have not seen it discussed here so I am under the impression it doesn't use it.

I'm not sure your luck with RBE will be any better on this set than the Samsung, but if it does you will enjoy the Toshiba. It is the best kept secret around here.
post #156 of 570
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by plasmarc View Post

What rotten luck. You mentioned earlier that it wasn't too bad. Is it starting to bother you more?

Being a month old owner I'd say that some nights I see RBEs and some nights I don't!, depending on what I'm watching. When I do see RBEs it bothers me a little... so it's not too bad, just a little annoying. Before I read about RBE I had never noticed them. My wife and friends don't see them.

Other than that the set is outstanding especially considering its low price.
post #157 of 570
rseven,

Yep, #5 geez, losing count. Hopefully I'll keep this one longer than a couple weeks. LOL

Zissou,

Thanks. Thats not really a problem for me. The Sammy had it & the PQ looked alright (HD DVD)

f300v10,

I read a few horror stories about the lamp on the 195 model. I'm getting the 196. Has this issue been resolved for the newer models? thanks!
I watched the demo at best buy looking for RBE. I did see it, but only after looking left & right real fast. (Store clerk thought I was on crack ) With the Sammy, I noticed them most during dark scenes in films.
post #158 of 570
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Originally Posted by Krammer1 View Post

rseven,

Yep, #5 geez, losing count. Hopefully I'll keep this one longer than a couple weeks. LOL

Zissou,

Thanks. Thats not really a problem for me. The Sammy had it & the PQ looked alright (HD DVD)

f300v10,

I read a few horror stories about the lamp on the 195 model. I'm getting the 196. Has this issue been resolved for the newer models? thanks!
I watched the demo at best buy looking for RBE. I did see it, but only after looking left & right real fast. (Store clerk thought I was on crack ) With the Sammy, I noticed them most during dark scenes in films.

Yes the lamps are made from a different source now and bulb issues seem to be resolved.
post #159 of 570
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Originally Posted by Zissou View Post

Yes the lamps are made from a different source now and bulb issues seem to be resolved.

Thanks.

Here's hoping for 5-8000 hours of HD content.

Now I wonder if its worth giving my ISF tech another $150 to get it calibrated. He did the Sony flat pannel, but only used DVE. I'm leaning towards not getting it done as DVE HD DVD is just around the corner.
post #160 of 570
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Originally Posted by Krammer1 View Post

Thanks.

Here's hoping for 5-8000 hours of HD content.

Now I wonder if its worth giving my ISF tech another $150 to get it calibrated. He did the Sony flat pannel, but only used DVE. I'm leaning towards not getting it done as DVE HD DVD is just around the corner.

If he used DVE then it wasn't really calibrated. Hell you can use DVE yourself and get the same results.
post #161 of 570
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Originally Posted by Zissou View Post

If he used DVE then it wasn't really calibrated. Hell you can use DVE yourself and get the same results.

This ISF normally charges $275 per input. My cousin works for a HT company & he got me a deal $150, or should say "steal" I only gave him $100 cause he didn't have cables to test the greyscale. Anywhoo, I thought his calibration was ok but it was definitely "user" based.

Think I'll hold onto my cash & use my own eyes for this set.
post #162 of 570
Was browsing tv's at Future Shop (AKA Best Buy) & asked to see the Toshiba 62 or 72 196 model.

The sales guy told me that they have all been recalled.

I'm still getting mine tomorrow from BB.

Thoughts?
post #163 of 570
It sounds like salesman BS. Maybe they are out of stock or perhaps he gets a greater commission selling you a more expensive brand.
post #164 of 570
Got the set today, huge upgrade over them Sony sets & $900 cheaper.

I own a HD DVD player & cannot select "Full" screen mode. I can only get Natural & the theaterwide modes through HDMI. Is it possible to select Full while using HDMI?

Thanks!
post #165 of 570
You can only select Full mode on HD content that is in a full screen configuration otherwise it is an unavailable setting. This is usually in HDTV broadcasts.
post #166 of 570
Thanks.

This 62 is massive, even watching 2.4:1 content, the PQ is twice the size of the 46" Sony Bravia displayed 1.78:1

Do you have the quick restart option turned on? I set mine to off because of lamp concern.
post #167 of 570
Has anyone noticed RBE on these sets? How about SSE or SDE?
post #168 of 570
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krammer1 View Post

Was browsing tv's at Future Shop (AKA Best Buy) & asked to see the Toshiba 62 or 72 196 model.

The sales guy told me that they have all been recalled.

I'm still getting mine tomorrow from BB.

Thoughts?

Future Shop doesn't carry those models and won't be in the future.
post #169 of 570
SDE - no
SSE - very little much less than 195's
RBE - I can only see it when I try to see it (moving head back and forth fast)
post #170 of 570
If anyone gets the Perfect Vision magazine, the current issue did a review of the 72HM196 and had some very nice things to say about it, including mentioning its "excellent" video processing, which I think we all already knew about.
post #171 of 570
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krammer1 View Post

Got the set today, huge upgrade over them Sony sets & $900 cheaper.

I own a HD DVD player & cannot select "Full" screen mode. I can only get Natural & the theaterwide modes through HDMI. Is it possible to select Full while using HDMI?

Thanks!


If you set your player's HDMI output to 480p, then the FULL option will work.
post #172 of 570
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Originally Posted by Krammer1 View Post

Do you have the quick restart option turned on? I set mine to off because of lamp concern.

I don't think the quick start function affects lamp life negatively. In fact, it may help it as it provides some cooling after the TV is turned off by keeping the fan on, however, some folks have argued the opposite is true. I'm not sure if anyone knows for certain.

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Originally Posted by gshelley61 View Post

If you set your player's HDMI output to 480p, then the FULL option will work.

I was not aware of that. I will give it a try.
post #173 of 570
Sorry if this question has already been asked, but what are the differances between the 62HM196 and the 62MX196? Are they significant?

Thanks,
Nicholas.
post #174 of 570
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Originally Posted by dhan View Post

I agree except for RBE... which is why Sony was a big contender having no RBE.

I LOVED my Toshiba 62HM116 (same as 196) from Costco (which has had another price drop, and is now a steal including the stand). But I had to return it because Rainbow Effect was driving me crazy. I went with the Sony A-2000, and sure enough it has some color uniformity issues. I can deal with that better than the rainbow effect though. Both sets have great overall PQ, the Toshiba a bit sharper, and more 'processed' looking, and the Sony a bit more 'film like'. If you don't see rainbows, the Toshiba is a great set for the money, and I would heartily recommend it.
post #175 of 570
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Originally Posted by nicholas View Post

Sorry if this question has already been asked, but what are the differances between the 62HM196 and the 62MX196? Are they significant?

Thanks,
Nicholas.

Besides different cabinets I know that two differences are that the Cinema series has a PC input and the color management system.
post #176 of 570
Thread Starter 
SDE - no
SSE - very little
RBE - I can see some on highly contrasted material (White object on black background). Does not drive me crazy, just a little anoying.
post #177 of 570
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholas View Post

Sorry if this question has already been asked, but what are the differances between the 62HM196 and the 62MX196? Are they significant?

Thanks,
Nicholas.

1 - You'll get 4 dynamic contrast settings (off, low, medium, high) instead of only 2 (off, on) with the hm model. (I use the two intermediate settings (low and medium) most of the time)
2 - You'll get individual color adjustment for 6 colors to get them right (toning down the red for example) which you won't get with the hm model.
post #178 of 570
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Originally Posted by dhan View Post

1 - You'll get 4 dynamic contrast settings (off, low, medium, high) instead of only 2 (off, on) with the hm model. (I use the two intermediate settings (low and medium) most of the time)
2 - You'll get individual color adjustment for 6 colors to get them right (toning down the red for example) which you won't get with the hm model.

There are also some extra inputs. I know one is a VGA.
post #179 of 570
I'll quote this from someone who posted this on another site. I do notice this on my set. Is there a way to fix this problem yourself without a tech coming over?

Thanks!

Quote:


Factory set geometry
Do a search at some of the online audio video forums and you will see a lot of people complaining about the geometry of the TV. By geometry, I mean a pin cushioning/bowing effect on the left and right, top and bottom of the image. My set suffered from the left and right pincushion effect...it was slight but enough so that if a straight line were to show up, it would bend. I've read this problem can be really bad, affecting top, bottom, left and right, to not existing at all.
...(here's a HUGE pro)...
Anyway, I wrote Toshiba an email about my problem and they CALLED me at the number I left the DAY AFTER. I was at work (my work number), he left a msg with my receptionist, but I didn't call back because I didn't know who it was...so he called AGAIN, later that day, and I spoke to him. I told him the problem, he said an authorized tech will call you to set up an appointment...later that day, the tech called! Said they'd be at my place in 2 days. Today was that day, the tech came over in a given time slot pf 11:30 to 12:30!!! and fixed the problem, explaining everything along the way in 30 minutes. Perfect TV, perfect image, perfect service. Just blown away so far by Toshiba post-sale service. Anyway, the factory set geometry settings can be bad but don't fret, get the TV, call Toshiba and they'll fix it free of charge and fast.
post #180 of 570
I haven't had that problem either, but it is nice to here about the good service. I have heard mixed reviews about Toshiba support, but they beat the countless horror stories I've heard about Sony.
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