The official Toshiba 62MX196/72MX196 OWNER'S THREAD - Page 4

These sets display all images in 1080P. They are 'fixed pixel' displays and can't show any other resolution. What the TV displays in text on the screen is the current INPUT source resolution, and no it won't show 1080P because the set won't accept 1080P, only 1080i. And wobulated has nothing to do with it, you are getting 1920x1080 pixels drawn on the screen every 60th of a second which is the definition of 1080P.

You are correct. The tv will only show what the input signal is. I love this tv too!

I'm assuming this thread going dead means everybody is to busy enjoying there TV?

My 72mx195 started messing up and part isn't going to be available until late Dec., so Toshiba will be sending the 72mx196!?

Hopefully everything goes well, I guess I'm somewhat excited.

dhan - Do you have you 360 hooked via VGA cable if so what resolution?

I'm going to get a 62hm196. Before that my only concern is that how is the PQ of the SD signal? In the BB they only play their own HD programm and not able to show the SD to me. But mostly likely my singnal source will be a SD from digital box or Dish reciever for a while.

Plus, 8-9ft view distance is far enough? or it's too close to watch DVD and SD? I have a Sony NS75H doing the 1080i up scaling.

Thanks!

SD on any 62" screen is not going to look very good, but the 62hm196 is no worse than most on SD. As far as DVD, I use the oppo upconverting to 1080i and it looks great from 9-10 ft. 8-9 ft. is actually close to ideal for this set but it may take you a while to adjust to it. The first week I had my mine I thought it was to big. Now I think its about perfect and could even be a little bigger.

My 360 is hooked up via VGA at 1024x768 only because it looks better than my old dvd player at 720p. I was just wondering because I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do about the 360 HD-DVD drive when it comes out. I guess I'm just going to go with the hd-a1 since it price is dropping now, and change the 360 over to component.

One other thing do you notice much SSE on your 196?

thanks for quick reponse! Budget is the issue, MX is couples hundred more than HM. I quite pleased with HM PQ so I could keep that money and throw it in a sound system. LOL

Could I know where you got this deal? The best price I can get right now 2700 inluding TAX for 62HM196. MX could be couple hundred more.

Yeap! as per SMTPE or THX that 6-8ft should be the best for 62' to ensure the 30-36 degree viewing angle. But I also heard from other people feel dizzy on this distance.

I have a 72mx195 that will be exchanged with a 72mx196 next week due to some problems with the 195.

Video of 195 messing up

The reason I have the 360 hooked thru VGA is because while watching DVD's it will upconvert to 720p but only over VGA not component, besides that I would hook it up through component. Which is why I was planning on picking up a HD-A1 to solve all these problems.

They both look good, I do believe VGA on DVD's look a little better but it's hard to really tell because every time you switch cables you have to reboot. I have it hooked via component now and I'm just going to leave it that way.

On the other hand my DVD player upconverting to 720p or 1080i make a big difference .

$1171 less than msrp ----> videos only! (nor cal)

this is for the 72mx196 model. way cheaper than the $7k 70" xbr2.

My 62MX196 arrived Mon but I didn't get a chance to set it up until last night. Initial impressions:

I love this TV. The black looks great, and it's definitely not too big. HD channels look terrific and most SD looks better than I expected. I haven't done any tweaking beyond turning off edge enhancement and knocking down the contrast. (set to 100) So far no RBE, but I'm seeing a little more SSE than I'd like. I'm hoping some fine tuning can reduce it. At this point I'm very satisfied with the set. I just wonder why Toshiba's marketing strategy is to keep this baby a secret.

Pix in a couple days.

Me too! Report! Report! Report!

Yeah, Eliab was here last night. He didn't finish until after 10:00 PM so I didn't get too much of a chance to really check out the before and after differences. One thing I will say is that Eliab really knows his business. I've had four professional calibrations and he was every bit as knowledgeable and detailed as anyone. I have no hesitation whatsoever in recommending him to anyone looking to get their set calibrated.

After cleaning up and getting in the shower etc., I had about a half hour to play. Right off the bat you could tell the flesh tones were very good. Not that they were bad before, but they just look more natural. The colors were more saturated with absolutely no red push. The Phantom of the Opera HD DVD seemed to leap off the screen at you. Very nice indeed. I think that this is the biggest difference so far, the color saturation plus the natural flesh tones. I have to stress that I liked the PQ before as well, although I had the red saturation at -6 to -7 on all inputs because of the red push. That's gone.

I quickly went through the cable stations and noticed a real improvement. In fact, Eliab was impressed with how well the display handled cable. It cleaned the picture up noticeably. It is sharper with less noise. My wife will be pleased. She likes to watch standard cable while I'm constantly on HD channels.

Other than the color on the HD, the picture looks a little more three dimensional. The Wedding Date was on last night in HD and the picture was almost too sharp/crisp. I was pleased though that it had no noise. When a picture is that sharp I always look for the noise. Honestly, though, and this is preliminary, the differences on HD before and after were kind of subtle, except for the color saturation which is clearly noticeable. So far, this is the most noticeable difference to me.

Eliab had some really nice things to say about the set. First off, this was the first 2006 cinema series he calibrated. After calibration he really liked the contrast and light ouput. Said it had a very large range. He was really, really impressed with the greyscale tracking. It was "dead on". The color decoder was average. He liked the fact that you could totally remove edge enhancement. I guess that in some displays you can't totally remove it. All in all, he was most favorable in his comments and seemed genuinely pleased with the performance of the set. Surprised even.

I'll post more after the weekend. Right now, I think that I want it to look better as much as it does look better because of my investment.

One more thing, he really liked the low gain screen. Was very impressed with it.