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post #3001 of 3248
Yes I feel the same way BUT you have to admit on CBS part at least they gave us (the fans) an ending. For that reason alone ill watch and hope since last week they said "Season vs Series Finale"
post #3002 of 3248
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Originally Posted by Gary Quiring View Post

Has TNT made any noise about picking up Jericho? I don't see Jericho being much of a Sci-Fi channel show, it's more drama oriented that could fit the TNT mold.

So now what's next out of CBS's brain trust? My other favorite show 'The Unit' is also in trouble.

It would be sweet if TNT picked up Jericho because I get TNT HD via Cox OKC. In stark contrast, Cox OKC has no HD version of either Sci-Fi or FX. I won't watch any dramatic show that is not show in HD anymore.

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Originally Posted by RafaelSmith View Post

I have decided to not watch this weeks "final" show. I would rather have that "what happens next" feeling that makes Jericho as good as it is...rather than some network forced rush episode. I did not like last weeks episode because I could tell that it was not exactly what the creaters wanted but rather what they had to do to rush the story to an end. Hawkins made too many non-Hawkins like mistakes. I can only imagine how "non-Jericho like" this final episode will be. I rather have a fond memory of this good show instead of a let down.

CBS sucks and shall never be tuned on any tellivision I own again.

I share your outrage at the dumb decisions made by dumber network suits but if I stopped watching every network that had done something like this, I would have to stop watching TV.
post #3003 of 3248
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Originally Posted by Gary Quiring View Post

Has TNT made any noise about picking up Jericho? I don't see Jericho being much of a Sci-Fi channel show, it's more drama oriented that could fit the TNT mold.

So now what's next out of CBS's brain trust? My other favorite show 'The Unit' is also in trouble.

Ugh. I *LOVE* the Unit. Of course CBS would cancel it.
post #3004 of 3248
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Originally Posted by RafaelSmith View Post

I have decided to not watch this weeks "final" show. I would rather have that "what happens next" feeling that makes Jericho as good as it is...rather than some network forced rush episode. I did not like last weeks episode because I could tell that it was not exactly what the creaters wanted but rather what they had to do to rush the story to an end. Hawkins made too many non-Hawkins like mistakes. I can only imagine how "non-Jericho like" this final episode will be. I rather have a fond memory of this good show instead of a let down.

CBS sucks and shall never be tuned on any tellivision I own again.

Well, I for one will watch the finale, and I hope it has an ending that it as good as the 28 episodes before it. It's your last line that I just do not get, and I've heard others say that they would boycott and entire network before. You honestly think you will never watch CBS again? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense to me. I will miss Jericho, and I'll never be happy with the decision to cancel it, but who knows what great new shows CBS could develop in the next few seasons?
post #3005 of 3248
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Originally Posted by RockyF View Post

Well, I for one will watch the finale, and I hope it has an ending that it as good as the 28 episodes before it. It's your last line that I just do not get, and I've heard others say that they would boycott and entire network before. You honestly think you will never watch CBS again? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense to me. I will miss Jericho, and I'll never be happy with the decision to cancel it, but who knows what great new shows CBS could develop in the next few seasons?

Well considering that until a friend told me about Jericho when it premiered I had not watched CBS in several years.. Hell, the only "network" shows I have watched loyally in the past few years were Jericho and 24...mostly because friends turned me on to them. So its entirely possible. =P

Besides even if CBS or any other network does develop some great new show...they are still stuck in the dark ages in terms of accurately assessing the "numbers"....so said show would probably not make it.

"Big Brother" survives yet Jericho gets canned?...something is wrong with the numbers, the network...or the american viewers....probably all of the above
post #3006 of 3248
I'll watch the finale. But after that, there will be only one CBS show I'll continue to watch: Numb3rs. So, CBS has cut in half my own viewing of their network.

This will make me even more reluctant to try out new series that have serialized storylines. I'll stockpile them until I hear whether they're a hit and have been renewed. If the network cancels them, I won't watch. I guess this is just the last straw; there have been too many shows in recent years I've gotten hooked on, only to have them canceled.

At least with Jericho, we'll get something of a wrap-up.
post #3007 of 3248
From CNN:

Sorry, fans: 'Jericho' has been cancelled

* Story Highlights
* Fans had saved "Jericho" from cancellation after first season
* CBS was sent 40,000 pounds of nuts, after phrase uttered by show character
* Ratings were down for current run of the show

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/0....ap/index.html



Edit: Thanks mrvideo, I fixed link.
post #3008 of 3248
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Originally Posted by Rhyvven View Post

From CNN:

CNN Entertainment

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post #3009 of 3248
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Originally Posted by RafaelSmith View Post

"Big Brother" survives yet Jericho gets canned?...something is wrong with the numbers, the network...or the american viewers....probably all of the above

IMHO, you are probably right with the "probably all of the above" portion of your statement.
post #3010 of 3248
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Originally Posted by drummerguy View Post

At least with Jericho, we'll get something of a wrap-up.

From what I can tell, it is indeed a partial wrap-up, but as reported at places like TV Guide, it does leave the door open for the series to continue. The door has not been slammed shut.
post #3011 of 3248
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Originally Posted by Wytchone View Post

Yes I feel the same way BUT you have to admit on CBS part at least they gave us (the fans) an ending. For that reason alone ill watch and hope since last week they said "Season vs Series Finale"

I saw a promo last night on CBS that referred to the "Series Finale".
post #3012 of 3248
In the interim, CBS still has Big Bang Theory and How I Met Your Mother. Those are the only two shows I watch on CBS other than Jericho.

It comes in waves. I used to remember never watching Fox, ever, and then Sarah Connor Chronicles came on, and now New Amsterdam. I used to remember never watching ABC, ever, and then Lost came on, and now Eli Stone.
post #3013 of 3248
I'm waiting for whatever big is going to happen to happen in the first 25 minutes and then you'll see a "One Year Later" caption on a black background followed by 20 minutes of them wrapping up storylines. It will be something never before seen on television.

EDIT -- Darn! Galactica beat them to it!
post #3014 of 3248
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Originally Posted by RafaelSmith View Post

Well considering that until a friend told me about Jericho when it premiered I had not watched CBS in several years.. Hell, the only "network" shows I have watched loyally in the past few years were Jericho and 24...mostly because friends turned me on to them. So its entirely possible. =P

Besides even if CBS or any other network does develop some great new show...they are still stuck in the dark ages in terms of accurately assessing the "numbers"....so said show would probably not make it.

"Big Brother" survives yet Jericho gets canned?...something is wrong with the numbers, the network...or the american viewers....probably all of the above

You are right, of course. The dreary, not so secret, secret of network television is that it's about profits, not quality, and the shows are designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator among the viewing public. Thus, Jericho dies while the execrable Big Brother lives on. About all we can do is what you do, watch selectively and spare ourselves from most of the dreck.
post #3015 of 3248
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Originally Posted by MeowMeow View Post

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I like shorter seasons (Galactica's 13 episode season one is near pitch perfect). But, there is a distinction between a short season and cramming a couple seasons worth of reveals into a single wrap-up seven episode not-so-mini-series.

Could you even imagine how bad a show like Lost or BSG would have seemed if they were told to wrap it in seven episodes during the second season?

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Will have to wait & see, but LOST does have to cram a planned 16 ep season into 13 due to the strike. Not as big a deal, I know...and with it's truncated S4, LOST has been one ass-kicking episode after another this year.

Sad, but not surprising, about JERICHO.

Here's to the hope that a cable net jumps on it for at least a 3rd season.

As crappy as it is, at least fans aren't getting the DEADWOOD treatment.
post #3016 of 3248
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Originally Posted by RafaelSmith View Post

Well considering that until a friend told me about Jericho when it premiered I had not watched CBS in several years.. Hell, the only "network" shows I have watched loyally in the past few years were Jericho and 24...mostly because friends turned me on to them. So its entirely possible. =P

Besides even if CBS or any other network does develop some great new show...they are still stuck in the dark ages in terms of accurately assessing the "numbers"....so said show would probably not make it.

"Big Brother" survives yet Jericho gets canned?...something is wrong with the numbers, the network...or the american viewers....probably all of the above

Like mrvideo said, I definitely can agree with your last line. I guess my problem with the whole "boycott an entire network" mentality just comes from a different viewing pattern. While I do pay very close attention to networks and their scheduling patterns, ultimately I watch what I want to watch regardless of where it's on, so I would never not watch a show, just because it's on a network that made me mad a time or two.
post #3017 of 3248
The only two shows I watched on CBS: CSI: Miami and Jericho... so I'm also quitting to watch CBS 50%... and when CSI: Miami flushes out the remaining new episodes its lights out for CBS.

Too bad they have rights to air NFL AFC games, we'll I guess I'll watch CBS Sundays starting September...

I only hope that tomorrow's episode is kick-ass or they will be receiving my nuts in the mail.... (peanuts)
post #3018 of 3248
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Originally Posted by thejokell View Post

80%??? A cable channel would be lucky to carry over 25%. And even that is ambitious.

I'd say this show would retain at least 60-65%. At this point it's all die-hard fans that would follow the show anywhere.
post #3019 of 3248
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Originally Posted by danc8379 View Post

I saw a promo last night on CBS that referred to the "Series Finale".

Drat, just saw the CNN article. Oh well.
post #3020 of 3248
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Originally Posted by LMUBill View Post

I'm waiting for whatever big is going to happen to happen in the first 25 minutes and then you'll see a "One Year Later" caption on a black background followed by 20 minutes of them wrapping up storylines. It will be something never before seen on television.

I know you posted this in jest, but do not bet you life savings on that happening.
post #3021 of 3248
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Originally Posted by Wytchone View Post

Drat, just saw the CNN article. Oh well.

BTW, the CNN cancellation news referenced above is old news. See post 2950.

The news broke Friday afternoon.
post #3022 of 3248
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Originally Posted by chibul View Post

I'd say this show would retain at least 60-65%. At this point it's all die-hard fans that would follow the show anywhere.

That's simply wishing on your part. Anecdotal evidence: there are 3 people I work with who watch Jericho. They didn't even know when the second season was airing - I had to bring in the first couple of episodes on DVD for them to catch up. They also don't know that it's being canceled, and since the time in between seasons is so long they'll forget all about Jericho by the time it's supposed to be back on again. Part of the same reason the show lost 1/5 of its audience during the hiatus last year.

There are some diehard Jericho fans, but for the most part people are not "loyal" to shows to the point you assume they are. If it becomes difficult or confusing for them to find the show, they won't.

Cable companies know that they would probably only get about 10% of the audience coming over. The question is whether or not the show is worth around 600k weekly viewers.
post #3023 of 3248
Only shows I watch on CBS are CSI, CSI:NY and Two and a Half Men. Bye Jericho.
post #3024 of 3248
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Originally Posted by petergaryr View Post

Sad but true. The networks exist to make money from commerical time. They are not in the entertainment industry. They will put anything on that people will watch.

There is a long gone show called Dinosaurs where in one episode Earl was put in charge of programming at the Antedeluvian Broadcasting Network. He programmed shows like A Box of Puppies and the Happy Colors Show. Other dinosaurs got so stupid from watching that they would sometimes forget how to breathe and keel over.

Now that was a funny show. Didn't last long either. It seems the humor went over most peoples heads. Apparently people can't process humor when it is the audience themselves being made fun of. Same held true for Max Headroom. Obviously people have no problem watching other people make fools of themselves, thus they watch reality shows.
post #3025 of 3248
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Originally Posted by Jay_Davis View Post

Now that was a funny show. Didn't last long either. It seems the humor went over most peoples heads. Apparently people can't process humor when it is the audience themselves being made fun of. Same held true for Max Headroom. Obviously people have no problem watching other people make fools of themselves, thus they watch reality shows.

Bingo!
post #3026 of 3248
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Originally Posted by drummerguy View Post

This will make me even more reluctant to try out new series that have serialized storylines. I'll stockpile them until I hear whether they're a hit and have been renewed. If the network cancels them, I won't watch. I guess this is just the last straw; there have been too many shows in recent years I've gotten hooked on, only to have them canceled.

That's the key, why even bother to watch new shows because if its good the odds are it will be canceled. This year I only tried 2 new shows, Bionic Woman and Journeyman. Where did that get me? Bionic Woman: horrible. Journeyman: great, canceled. So why did I bother?

But hey, Flash Gordon got renewed. So it must obviously be better than Jericho or Journeyman, right?
post #3027 of 3248
600k weekly viewers? :lol: That's ridiculous.
post #3028 of 3248
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Originally Posted by chibul View Post

600k weekly viewers? :lol: That's ridiculous.

Indeed it is. Jericho is a cult show. People find those shows no matter where they are and follow them anywhere. Roughly 4 million of them will find it and watch it if a cablenet picks it up. To say otherwise is nonsense; just look at the nuts campaign. Figure there are probably 10 to 100 fans of the show who would follow it wherever it goes to the 1 who actually mailed nuts to CBS. It would draw huge numbers for a cablenet; that's just common sense.
post #3029 of 3248
Pulling in 4 million viewers on cable consistently would make it one of the biggest cable shows of all time. And I'm sorry, Jericho just isn't that show.

If it really had this kind of support, like you claim, it wouldn't be canceled right now. Because those 4 million people who would follow it anywhere love it so much to get all of their friends watching too, right?
post #3030 of 3248
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Originally Posted by thejokell View Post

Pulling in 4 million viewers on cable consistently would make it one of the biggest cable shows of all time. And I'm sorry, Jericho just isn't that show.

'The Closer' gets upwards of 6-7 million each week and it doesn't have anywhere near the cult appeal of 'Jericho'.

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Originally Posted by thejokell View Post

If it really had this kind of support, like you claim, it wouldn't be canceled right now. Because those 4 million people who would follow it anywhere love it so much to get all of their friends watching too, right?

Nope, that didn't work before (it seldom does). It's very difficult to persuade others to watch something you find great, Heaven knows I've tried with such stellar fare as BSG and failed to garner new recruits. No, like I've said before, the 'Jericho' audience is down to the hard-core who will watch it, and follow it, anywhere. And that would comprise at least 4 million. But on CBS it would have needed 10-12 million and that wasn't possible.
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