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post #3061 of 3245
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Originally Posted by MeowMeow View Post

If they really felt the need for the tight shooting schedule, they should have brought in one of the lighting gurus of the industry to help. A lot of shots in S2 Jericho are plain substandard.

My opinion of whose fault a lot of this is is changing fast.

Yes, I'm sure Jericho's downfall was due to substandard lighting.
post #3062 of 3245
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

CBS isn't even getting more audience for Survivor, dissapointing with Big Brother and much more... the network is in a fast decline these days, if it weren't for NCAA tournament it would be dead right now..

And according to Mike and The Mad Dog (NYC sports show) CBS has even screwed up the NCAA tournament pretty badly.
post #3063 of 3245
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And according to Mike and The Mad Dog (NYC sports show) CBS has even screwed up the NCAA tournament pretty badly.

Too many games being bounced around - too much screen being taken up by ads/scores on the top and bottom. PQ better than last year but still problematic.

I hope CBS chokes on its Big Brother for canceling Jericho with zero notice so they can air another crap reality series. I don't care about Danny Bonaduce's secret talent.
post #3064 of 3245
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Originally Posted by Knicks_Fan View Post

I hope CBS chokes on its Big Brother for canceling Jericho with zero notice so they can air another crap reality series. I don't care about Danny Bonaduce's secret talent.

Um, have you been paying attention to this thread at all? CBS did not "cancel Jericho with zero notice." This season has always been scheduled to be seven episodes, ever since it was announced last May. And they said at that point that the ratings would have to increase in order to get at third season, which didn't happen. And while I agree that "Secret Talents of the Stars" looks like an absolute waste of airtime, they had to put something in the slot.
post #3065 of 3245
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Originally Posted by MeowMeow View Post

They shot the show in six days, IIRC. There's simply no way it even cost that much. Keep in mind a lot of the cost of shows is the initial setup, especially if the show is set intensive. Jericho obviously isn't.

A point of reference is Pushing Daisies, probably the most obviously expensive show on TV. Daisies is rumored to cost over $3 million per episode, and that was enough that ABC pushed Barry Sonnenfeld out of his role as director.

Now, that cost per episode will come down because Daisies reuses a ton of the same sets over and over again. And that's a good thing, because Warner Bros, who makes Daisies, had to lean on ABC for extra cash over the $1.65m they were being paid.

That gives you a sense of what is considered "too expensive" for a TV show. At least enough that you might beat down one of the show's creators for running the show at a friggin loss.

Of course, mind you, Pushing Daisies was one of the first show when the strike started to be told it would be renewed. It's a great show, but from a business standpoint it is almost a loss leader for ABC to say, "See? No one else puts anything like this on TV. All other networks suck. Period."

So btwn DAISIES & say...LOST...ABC is the network primetime vanguard?


Then again, don't they want to keep ACCORDING TO JIM around as well? That'll knock 'em down a notch in the "cred" department.
post #3066 of 3245
From scifi.com

Jericho Seeks A New Home

Carol Barbee, executive producer of CBS' canceled post-apocalyptic series Jericho, told SCI FI Wire that talks are ongoing to find the show another home, perhaps on a cable network.

"I can't really say [much] about specifics, and, ... partially, it's because I'm not the one having those conversations," Barbee said in an interview on March 24, the eve of the show's final episode. "[CBS] Paramount [Television, which produces the show,] has been pursing it, and our agents have been into that, so, you know, I am pushing those people and coming up with ideas to have those people pursue."

Barbee wouldn't offer details about any talks. "There were several ideas that have been floated, and there was some interest, but we'll have to see," she said. "It wasn't something that could be sewn up before we were going to air the finale. ... It would have been better had we been able to announce one with the other, but it just didn't happen that fast."

Barbee said that she and the show's cast and crew got official word of the show's cancellation at the end of last week, in time to choose one of two endings for the season finale: A cliffhanger or a series ender. "We were told that they were having a meeting on Thursday, ... internally at CBS, to decide which of the endings to show for this Tuesday night's finale, and then we were given the heads up after that meeting that they were going to show the alternate [ending, with the series finale], which obviously to us meant that we were going to finish our run on CBS," Barbee said. Barbee asked CBS to delay its formal announcement for 24 hours so she could inform the cast and crew; the news broke on Friday.

If Jericho is not picked up for another season by a TV network, Barbee said that she could envision it living on in some other form. "There's definitely an Internet series to be had, and we always talked about a graphic novel, and ... a movie," Barbee said. "I mean, there are lots of things that I could easily see as a way to continue the story."

But time may be running out. Jericho wrapped its second season of episodes back in November, just as the writers' strike was beginning. Since then, the cast and crew have been freed to pursue other projects, and the show's sets and backlot have been dismantled and either destroyed or put into storage. Barbee herself has moved on to another series, Swingtown, created by Jericho alumnus Mike Kelley, about the lives of couples experimenting with sexual and social mores in a 1970s Chicago suburb, which will air on CBS this summer and is shooting on the same stages once occupied by Jericho.

Looking back on Jericho, Barbee was pleased that it attracted a core of die-hard fans who were responsible for getting CBS to resurrect the show for a second season. "We appreciated the second life that we had, and we feel like we've made the most of it, and we will just be forever indebted to the fans for taking us on this amazing ride," she said. "I think it will always be a highlight in our careers, that we got to be a part of that." Jericho's finale, "Patriots and Tyrants," airs March 25 at 10 p.m. ET/PT.

(Fans wishing to write SCI FI Channel about picking Jericho up should NOT use the scifiwire@scifi.com e-mail address, but rather should send snail mail here: SCI FI Channel, 21st Floor, 30 Rockefeller Plaza, New York, NY 10112.)
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

Barbee wouldn't offer details about any talks. "There were several ideas that have been floated, and there was some interest, but we'll have to see," she said. "It wasn't something that could be sewn up before we were going to air the finale. ... It would have been better had we been able to announce one with the other, but it just didn't happen that fast."

I disagree. I think one of the problems a number of fans have had with season 2 is the radical change in tone from the first season. Many people might rightly feel that the show they got this year is not the show they campaigned to save last year.

That won't happen this time. Because CBS is airing the more conclusive finale tonight, the direction for season 3, if there is one, will be quite clear. Oh sure, the suits at a new net could still force a change in direction, but the producers' current vision for season 3 will be very obvious by the end of tonight's episode. So those asking for another season will have a much better idea what they are asking for this year than they did last year.

The $64K question, then, is whether folks in this thread, and in the blogosphere generally, will still want another season tomorrow morning. I think that's very much an open question, and people should reserve judgment until they see tonight's finale.
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Originally Posted by joblo View Post

I disagree. I think one of the problems a number of fans have had with season 2 is the radical change in tone from the first season. Many people might rightly feel that the show they got this year is not the show they campaigned to save last year.

That won't happen this time. Because CBS is airing the more conclusive finale tonight, the direction for season 3, if there is one, will be quite clear. Oh sure, the suits at a new net could still force a change in direction, but the producers' current vision for season 3 will be very obvious by the end of tonight's episode. So those asking for another season will have a much better idea what they are asking for this year than they did last year.

The $64K question, then, is whether folks in this thread, and in the blogosphere generally, will still want another season tomorrow morning. I think that's very much an open question, and people should reserve judgment until they see tonight's finale.

I know the series finale they are showing tonight will leaving a glimmer of hope for another season, but are we really going to get clarity on the direction for a possible season 3? This is a series finale, after all. Barbee said tonight's ep will provide closure.
post #3069 of 3245
Oh, yes, yes, yes. Season 3 will be very clear, and at the same time, there will be lots of closure.

In fact, I've even seen at least one preview that gave away one of the money quotes, but I can't recall whether that was on CBS or a Canadian station.
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Originally Posted by MeowMeow View Post

Nope. I think that's where the parallel stops and things drift into a good fictionalization for the sake ensuring the heroes look like heroes instead of a mob.

Ah I see good to know where the fictional drama starts and ends.
post #3071 of 3245
I see this show airing on Universal HD and I never really payed much attention to it. The show seem to have a dark feeling to it from the little bit that I watched. So the show is about post nuclear war fallout?
post #3072 of 3245
I absolutely loved it! What a way to go out!
post #3073 of 3245
Thank you Jericho for the finest season of Television I have ever seen plus a perfect ending.
post #3074 of 3245
Fantastic!! Thanks to all involved with Jericho. What a wonderful 7 episode season. Such a shame to have it all end. Never have I felt this strongly about a tv series. The best I have experienced.
post #3075 of 3245
Dunno, but that ending left it wide open for another season on a different network. There are still unanswered questions, and a HUGE storyline that can be gotten from going further. Just hope someone picks it up!
post #3076 of 3245
An all around good job....

Plenty to nit-pick about, but who cares.

I hope that someone will have the good sense to pick this up and continue the story.
post #3077 of 3245
It was already stated that the ending would add closure for us viewers, but still open questions. I suspect they did that so we got closure, and it's open for someone to pick it up, which probably will never happen.

This ending seemed like a Season slammed into one episode, but they did it well. Not sure how they could have ended it any better. I'll miss this show.

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Originally Posted by CJPC View Post

Dunno, but that ending left it wide open for another season on a different network. There are still unanswered questions, and a HUGE storyline that can be gotten from going further. Just hope someone picks it up!
post #3078 of 3245
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Originally Posted by Jeremy W View Post

Yes, I'm sure Jericho's downfall was due to substandard lighting.

That's not what I meant at all. Don't be lame just for the sake of internet forum snarkiness.

What I meant is that the show had enough of a budget that a lot of the cheapness should have been addressed and addressed well. It wasn't. In all of season two there were two shots that looked genuinely good.

First was Jake being hauled in to face Constantino. Everything shot in Johnston Green's house seems to come out gorgeous. It's just a good space.

Second was the air-to-air sequence in the finale. Gotta love Zoic. Zoic did all of Firefly's CG, which still stands up pretty well five years on, and most of the big stuff from BSG. It was pretty worthy even if some of the fighter plane details were a little CGish. For a point of reference, watch BSG's S2 two-parter Resurrection Ship.

Anyhoo... point being, the cash was there. But, somehow, the assembly process didn't work. Season two looked cheap. Visuals are where rushed and cheap show up first.

The show wasn't cheap. The show was rushed. The people who run the show ultimately have to accept responsibility for that.

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Originally Posted by jwebb1970 View Post

So btwn DAISIES & say...LOST...ABC is the network primetime vanguard?

Then again, don't they want to keep ACCORDING TO JIM around as well? That'll knock 'em down a notch in the "cred" department.

I'm not pimping ABC. I'm just offering up Pushing Daisies as an example because it is unquestionably the most lavish looking show ever put on TV. Lost is an icon in its own right.

As to According to Jim ... ABC hasn't had a winning comedy since Roseanne. I guess you can consider Ugly Betty a winning comedy, but I just don't get it at all.

Every network has their thing. CBS is the comedy king right now. ABC makes cutting edge stuff. NBC makes endless crap and then threatens good dramas. Fox makes House and Idol.

Everyone makes reams of god awful cop shows. Guh.

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All said, I liked the Jericho finale. Not loved, but liked. Easily left the door open. Not sure if the show would ever be the same show, but a full-blown civil war would have that effect anyhow. No going back.

The ending actually reminds me a bit of the ending to Firefly/Serenity. Mission done, story still open. The good guys are intact, but by no means ahead. The regime is damaged but not gone.
post #3079 of 3245
I'm not hearing the "love" for our Texas Air Nat'l Guard?

Great show, great episode, hope to see it back on a cable channel next season.
post #3080 of 3245
I'm kind of amazed a major network would be willing to lay out some of those issues in that finale.

The only way it could be more extreme is if the United States were the bad guys trashing the Constitution and the Allied States were the good guys. But I think we'd have to enter a parallel dimension to see that on primetime network TV.
post #3081 of 3245
$15mil went to the cgi planes LOL

that looked like an open ending to me.

get those letters and peanuts to Sci-Fi HQ ASAP!!!

guess they don't do numbers for reruns. I know some people that have been watching S1 on Sci-fi which made them interested along with the interview I showed them of what was planned for the show ea season.
post #3082 of 3245
I would love to see two spinoffs. One with sweet post-apocalypse survival drama for my love of that setting in all forms of media (season 1 doesn't quite cut it), and another with a modern take on Red Dawn for the gun nut in me.

Hell yeah, someone mentioned the Second Amendment unironically on TV between 7pm and 11pm!
post #3083 of 3245
That was a great ending..... really hope its picked up so we can see where it goes. There really are a ton of things that could still be done. Scifi would have a major score getting this if they can.
post #3084 of 3245
Excellent episode.

Good closure
post #3085 of 3245
Strange I did not expect to have these feelings. I wept for this upcoming fictional civil war.
post #3086 of 3245
So wait...there were two endings shot, a cliffhanger and something that wrapped everything up...and THAT was the wrap-up?
post #3087 of 3245
I've removed the spoilage blockage from the post containing the Morse code:

Finale Morse Code
post #3088 of 3245
morse code should have said "DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS" ...excellent ending
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One thing that I noticed. After Beck informed his superiors, and they came over and investigated the data on Hawking's laptop. They removed their patches, and basically stepped in line with him.

Issue is, they were his superiors, but they took a lower role (as in in rank). So I wonder, if we do see a season three, will Beck be "the military man" of the resistance?

Lets hope we can get that answer!
post #3090 of 3245
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Originally Posted by CJPC View Post

One thing that I noticed. After Beck informed his superiors, and they came over and investigated the data on Hawking's laptop. They removed their patches, and basically stepped in line with him.

Issue is, they were his superiors, but they took a lower role (as in in rank). So I wonder, if we do see a season three, will Beck be "the military man" of the resistance?

I think you got things confused. Beck said he'd have to hear back from his superiors up the ASA Army chain of command. I'm pretty sure I saw captains' bars on the soldiers who saw the laptop. Beck's gold oak leaf for a major is shown often. Major is a higher rank than captain in most, if not all services.

Presumably he still hadn't heard back from Cheyenne when his subordinates choose to follow him.
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