'Jericho' on CBS - Page 3

Wasn't there a show like this on Shotime a few years ago?

I have been doing a little research but even though they wouldn't be able to see the mushroom cloud, they would have definately have noticed the light. Now, of course, the kid looking into a bright spot of light from over the horizon isn't terribly dramatic and I would suspect most people would not realize what was giving off that light so I think they were forced to show a mushroom cloud. If for nothing else, just to make sure all the viewers knew what has happening. I am going to allow them to take a little creative license here.

Another intersting thought is that if this present day, I wonder if any of those kids had even seen a mushroom cloud before...

-- Jim

Yep and the Levees in NOLA where so robust they could survive a Category 3 Hurricane and looked how THAT turned out.

I have been in places where Cell phones, pagers, and blackberries don't work now. For exmaple, my Blackberry does not work where my parents live in the Tri-state area where Ohio, West Virginia, and Pennslyvania meet (Stubenville OH, Weirton WV area). It is very easy to lose cell phone coverage as you travel. Wifi is all but non existent down there and I am sure Internet service is routed through Pittsburgh and Cleveland so if you lost those two cities, they would not have any Internet even if the local dialup ports and broadband services were still active. About the only thing I would imagine that would still work would be a satellite phone and I don't think you are going to find one in such a small town.

Remember how much the Internet was disrupted in the US on 9/11 because all the Internet traffic was routed through some Verizon POP at WTC? That damage was contained within a 1 sq. mi. area of one city. Imagine what would happen if all or most of the major pops were hit?

Not in west Kansas, for a couple of reasons. Long haul fiber is always buried, but more importantly, there AREN'T any trees.

I think you're forgetting that they don't have power and that its obvious other cities (possibly a lot of them) have been hit.

Then they should have picked a better location, like Aspen, or some other mountain resort where an avalanche could have really isolated the town, and communications was already naturally blocked by the terrain. But Kansas, dumb, dumb, dumb.

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There are some nits for ya to pick. Come on man, lighten up a bit.

The fiber infrastucture in the US is redundant many times over, and is backed up with alternative power sources, battery and generator, at all critical locations.

And did Dish Network and DirecTV both lose their main and redundant uplink facilities all at about the same time.

Sorry, this might have made a good Twilight Zone episode back in the 50's, but anybody who understands anything about 2006 communications will find the entire premise laughable.

No way. This is a great show to bash.

And it really doesn't matter if the fiber is buried if there isn't anything on the other end of it. For the most part, Central Offices are not hardened facilities.

Also I would also point out that I live in Detroit and in the last big power outage...Cellular service was pretty much useless almost immediately. In the first few hours, so many people were trying to use the service that you couldn't setup a call and then a few hours later the backup batteries went dead. There were some towers that had generator power but they were few and far between and I am sure more generators have been added since but this was in a big city. I could see the one cell tower in Jeracho not having a generator and then the batteries going dead after the power went out.

Yeah, so far, that's what I'm thinking too, maybe we can have a "Most Unbelievable and Ludicrous Moment" award, of course it would be constantly updated as I'm sure there will be more than one.

As a communications engineer that deals with the "redundant many times over" US system on a daily basis DO NOT believe what the telcos tell you...there are a lot of weak links in these networks that bring down sizable parts of the network on a daily basis. I have sites that have two leased lines AND dial backup and if the right cable gets cut or the right Central Office goes down we will lose the location. In fact, most of our outages are not caused by a our non-redundant premises equipment but in fact caused by the "highly redundant" telco system.

-- Jim

Even in west Kansas, one would expect to get a couple of dozen AM/FM broadcast channels from a variety of locations, and of course satellite service. If they don't address scientific believablity, they will lose their audience out the gate.

Very true. My web server normally has a 98% uptime record. Of that remaining 2%, half is time to reboot once a month for my Tuesday Microsoft patch fix and the other half is AT&T. My internal network and system hardware is so far 100% reliable. If I could afford to have a duplicate server, I'd have 99% uptime by still be up for the few minutes each month I apply patches. As it is, it's cheaper to put that money toward mirroring the data to another drive in the same server in case one fails, rather than run a second machine just for 4AM - 4:03AM one Tuesday each month. The Internet connection I can't do anything about, so I'll never be 100%.

Well, Goodland, KS is about 400 road miles west of KC and is close to the Colorado border. From Goodland to Denver is about 130 miles as the crow flys. This is pretty flat country both in Kansas and the east part of Colorado. You are not going to see any mountains in between. The mushroom, on the other hand, is quite possible.

This is a good point, unless they had cable TV, which would explain why the TV went off, otherwise if they were close enough to get Denver stations OTA, then they were close enough to have been impacted by the bomb itself.

No satellite is easily explained by having the uplink facilities lost to the bomb.

The multiple emoticons led me immediately to your last sentence where I assumed you were making a comment on Kansas' seemingly endless battle (along with Pennsylvania and Georgia) over replacing the teaching of evolution with creationism in their public school science classrooms. Thermonuclear war seems almost tame by comparison.

I have also been a communications engineer. The four 9's aren't much of a stretch these days.

I think I might like this show but it is really too soon to tell. Eventually there may be just too many improbable events with no justification that will make it too hard to "suspend disbelief".

But it is certainly interesting enough for me to follow it for at least a couple more episodes.

- Tom

Well, it wasn't my intent, but if the shoe fits......

Have you ever seen 'Threads'? The UK equivalent of The Day After but far, far more bleak. I lived in (West) Germany at the time and it scared the hell out of us forces kids.

Except that both Dish and DirecTV have redundant uplink locations in entirely different geographic locations. I simply won't buy the loss of all communication links in as short a period of time as depicted in this show.

Remember the entire premise of this show is there MIGHT have been a nuc strike. Its supposed to be unclear what is going on and it can deal with any number of things and IF the show survives there will be many questions brought up some without any clear explanations ala LOST.

Also read that Jericho could be a 'Lost'-like series, so perhaps the ambiguities and fudging will be endlessly extended. Suspect I'll tune out after a few more episodes if they're planning cat-and-mouse games indefinitely. -- John

One wonders if the creators of the show have a clear cut idea as to where it will lead or are they going to make it up on the fly?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053137/

On the Beach - still my favorite post nuke war book and movie.

I should have said bomb(s), I'm guessing the implication of the Atlanta bomb is that all the major areas had been hit.

You know, it could have been Charlie Ergen and Ted Turner resorting to violence over some contract negotiation.

Yes, that was excellent.

And plausable, intellegent, believable, and well acted. And no school bus full of children in distress as I recall.

Wouldn't matter if we did - all the awards would belong to "24" anyway.