Showtime Now Butchering Movies: Credits, Pop Ups, Down-Res'd Sections

If given a choice between OAR or butchered credits, I'll take OAR and go to IMDB for credits. It could be worse, they could start doing pop-ups ala TNT, the worst HD channel in existense.

larry

Doesn't bother me. Movies over. Who cares?

your not alone HDTVFanatic. I care.

I was just watching United 93. A film like that that packs a big emotional wallop at the end. Nice somber music as the end credits start to roll. Then the moment would be ruined by promos for SHO boxing, or whatever.

Maybe no one started a thread before because its a silly thing to worry about.

Why?

I'll take OAR vs. OC (Original Credits) anyday.

Yep....we have a winner

It bothers me...

It's the credits. I'm already changing the channel or upoff the chair when they start rolling.

I am not a big fan of the Attic fan and as such I could not read his post, but I have read the replies and understand the issue based on the title. I like recording certain movies and for the same reason I don't want a channel bug, I want a pure recording all the way through the last credit...If I'm just flipping and catch a movie, I don't give a crap if the credits are mutilated.

my 2 cents

I am bothered by the fact there is someone on this Earth that would pay for Showtime from 3 different providers.

I've rolled over and put my paws in the air in the OAR fight. There will always be more people who don't want the "black bars". What you say is true, however. And there is no reason to squash credits. There's more than enough time between movies to do their "commercials".

larry

Personally I get really pi**ed off when networks kill the credits. Starz is also bad for this.

I disagree. It is not silly. Think the composer who wrote the score thinks it is silly when his work is butchered? How about those who work hard only to see their credit is blocked out?

This may seem "silly" to you; to me it is a film losing a tiny part of its integrity.

For those of us that care it is notable and worth letting Showtime know of our displeasure.

Willie

You're exactly right and all of the outcry has gotten DirecTV to stop doing HD-Lite.... Errrr, wait, no it hasn't. You mean, they're still doing it after dozens of people here complained ?? How dare they ignore us.

Oh, really? I seem to remember with the movie "Being There" when they started showing outtakes and other things of interest during the ending credits. The recent movie "X-Men III" had a very significant revelation for those of us in the audience who stayed until the credit roll finished. One might have been able to view this "revelation" on the sort of squeezed panel some networks use but the audio "noise" of the next show promo would have masked the revelation.

YMMV

this is not silly in the least, I watch movie credits as they very often add to the mood of the ending of a film like mentioned already, Movie Credits are part of the movie sorry but those are the facts

-Gary

it would bother me if there were outtakes or the credits were fancy (ala pixar) otherwise i don't care, i use IMDB if i really care.

If Showtime is indeed doing this, people need to send emails to Paul Selbano (I forgot the email addy), VP of programming. He's been very responsive so far, especially with these kinds of issues.

He might be unaware of it.

They could completely eliminate the credits and still not hear a peep from me.

For me it's not much different than any other commodity. I care about the quality of the new car I buy, just like I care about the quality of the image and sound of the programming I watch.
I really don't care what the name of the guy that tightened the lug nuts or put the air in the tires is, I just care that it was done correctly.

Then, being the heathen I am, I also think that the Hollywood awards shows are a colossal waste of time and money.

Personally, I believe that's because the vast majority of people really don't care that much, and even here among the nation's most fervant audiophiles, it doesn't rate all that highly as compared to many other concerns folks have about their audio-visual experiences.

If this was a major issue, from an artistic standpoint, I'd rely on the discretion of the producers, writers and directors to make this issue important enough to them to write restrictions against such actions into their contracts.


I think there is a big difference between PQ for the actual content of a production, and the display of credits after the production.


How much less are you paying for that cable channel because the channel uses this prime opportunity to advertise its services, so more subscribers stay subscribed, so their costs-of-doing-business and contribution-to-profit is split among that many more customers?


We even let broadcasters use HD frequencies for a series of SD channels. Everything in its proper measure, based on how much we-the-people value it, as reflected by how lucrative we make it for suppliers to offer it.


Precisely right. None of us matter much individually.
Absolutely on-target.

Or perhaps they simply don't care.


Often, blame is either illusory or irrelevant.

This was a remarkably self-centered and self-indulgent message. It projected only puerile frustration that you care about something that others don't care about. It is unfortunate, in some ways, but very fortunate in others, that we're not all carbon copies of each other. There is no need, nor any benefit, in us all holding everything as dear as everyone else does. If you go through life expecting everyone to believe only as you do, care about things only as much as you do, etc., you're going to live a very miserable life.

Absolutely. Even though I don't think it is important, I do believe each person who does believe it is imporant should make their feelings know to the service they've subscribed to. Calling someone else's preferences and perspectives "silly" is pretty close to hubris, whether that be disliking the practice of running advertisements during the credits or whether that be not caring about the practice.